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Ep.52 [EN]: Armani Ferrante: Backpack and its multi-cycle ambition
In this episode I had the CEO of Backpack, Armani Ferrante on. It was a great conversation in their Tokyo office. Our conversion covered from his view on centralized exchanges to what he thinks of non-custodial wallets. We also discussed a lot beyond the business of Backpack. If you're interested, you should tune in yourself!Show Notes: The background of Armani, and the history of BackpackWhat does a FTX-shaped hole in the market look likeHow and why important centralized exchanges are to the industryCongratulations on your public beta that was announced 2 weeks ago. Since the launch, what were the exciting updates?You guys have been working hard long before this Public Beta. What were some of the preparation work?The pivotal licenses to acquireThe important markets for BackpackWeb3 teams in the US under Trump administrationInstitution volume vs retail volumeMobile experience of Backpack - no separation of the wallet and the centralized exchangeAccount abstraction wallet as an ultimate solution for the inconvenience led by self-custodyBackpack Exchange’s roadmap in the next 6-12 monthsLearnings from FTX: being normal is underrated - "be a redwood"Coinbase is a role modelBase as a community and L2’s centralized sequencer challengesThe next page of NFT - status signaling and digital life mattersX: @armaniferrante / @BackpackWebsite: https://backpack.exchange/
If you like this episode, you're welcome to tip with Ethereum / Solana / Bitcoin:如果喜欢本作品，欢迎打赏ETH/SOL/BTC：ETH: 0x83Fe9765a57C9bA36700b983Af33FD3c9920Ef20SOL: AaCeeEX5xBH6QchuRaUj3CEHED8vv5bUizxUpMsr1KytBTC: 3ACPRhHVbh3cu8zqtqSPpzNnNULbZwaNqG Important Disclaimer: All opinions expressed by Mable Jiang, or other podcast guests, are solely their opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as investment advice. Mable Jiang may hold positions in some of the projects discussed on this show. 重要声明：Mable Jiang或嘉宾在播客中的观点仅代表他们的个人看法。此播客仅用于提供信息，不作为投资参考。Mable Jiang有时可能会在此节目中讨论的某项目中持有头寸。
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Ep.51 [CN]: 汉洋 & 重轻： Funes想要建模全世界（真的不是元宇宙批评）
本期摘要：你们说自己“在发明一种爱好，类似没有滑板的时候在发明滑板或者巴塔哥尼亚那个哥们在从头发明攀岩装备。”你们怎么告诉别人Funes是什么？复杂的爱好是一种商业模式，需要成立公司来运营和发展谁最需要你们？谁是你的长期社区成员？怎么找到这些最初的核心用户？从重轻的文字里读出来你并不喜欢元宇宙这个概念，是因为虚假和幻觉么？元宇宙批评之我真的没有故意把重轻放在火上烤：真实的世界是复杂的Funes的每个合伙人写了一篇关于Funes的文章。可达那个让我印象很深刻，说的是关于他的教授言传身教让他们做考古研究观察这个世界时不要有预判和分别心。所以我很好奇，做3D模型以后有改变你们看这个世界的方式么。在美国锈带和土耳其的经历通过网上冲浪找到的废墟网站及通过这些冲浪拍到的莫名其妙的东西Funes是一个内容公司，再聊如何找到社区核心成员关于Funes潜在的激励网络（相信我这段对话一定不是你想的那样）模型链接：（苹果手机可以直接在网页中观看 AR 版，如遇卡顿可用电脑打开）[路边杆子上的飞车 A Car on A Pole in Bethlehem Township](https://funes.world/models/#ACarOnAPoleInBethlehemTownship)[高速旁的巨大鳄鱼 "Saint" Alligator Bonfire](https://funes.world/models/#SaintAlligatorBonfire)[辽中京大名塔，Funes 一开始想扫描的类型：辽塔](https://funes.world/models/?q=dam#DamingPagoda)这个汉洋不记得提到没有但是来都来了就放上去吧：[七台河的筒子楼](https://funes.world/models/?q=qita#KhrushchevkaInQitaihe) Blog（发刊词）:[丰泽：我为什么加入 Funes：为我们铁证如山的未来](https://funes.world/blogs/index.html#why-i-joined-funes/zh)[可达：细密的人间](https://funes.world/blogs/index.html#cosmos-in-detail/zh)[汉洋：张昭的题记](https://funes.world/blogs/index.html#zhang-zhaos-story/zh)[徐缓：从无数个念想开始](https://funes.world/blogs/index.html#staring-from-a-thousand-of-wishes-by-huan/zh)[轶轩：风铎的声音](https://funes.world/blogs/index.html#the-sound-of-wind-chimes/zh)[重轻：Funes 在筹集什么？](https://funes.world/blogs/index.html#what-are-funes-gathering/zh) [可达、重轻和汉洋的播客《山有虎》，各大泛用型播客客户端都能搜到，他们接下来也会基于模型做节目] (https://shanyouhu.xyz/)Twitter（X）：@HanyangWang / @Funes_World
If you like this episode, you're welcome to tip with Ethereum / Solana / Bitcoin:如果喜欢本作品，欢迎打赏ETH/SOL/BTC：ETH: 0x83Fe9765a57C9bA36700b983Af33FD3c9920Ef20SOL: AaCeeEX5xBH6QchuRaUj3CEHED8vv5bUizxUpMsr1KytBTC: 3ACPRhHVbh3cu8zqtqSPpzNnNULbZwaNqG Important Disclaimer: All opinions expressed by Mable Jiang, or other podcast guests, are solely their opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as investment advice. Mable Jiang may hold positions in some of the projects discussed on this show. 重要声明：Mable Jiang或嘉宾在播客中的观点仅代表他们的个人看法。此播客仅用于提供信息，不作为投资参考。Mable Jiang有时可能会在此节目中讨论的某项目中持有头寸。
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Ep.50 [CN]: Haze: 早安晚安都要优化产品体验的GMGN
这个节目的标题我没有想到一个特别出彩的但我很坦然，因为这一集也是一样：没有极其惊艳的大道理或者洞察，但是聊完之后你却更觉得Haze 和 GMGN 团队的优秀之处。他们在细节处见真章。在访谈的最后一个问题，你可能会期待他回答一些特别厉害的东西，但是他的回答仍然是那么朴素。这大概就是GNGM的成功的秘诀吧，坚持，用心。这一周过去了我跟 Haze 感慨，所有人都吹捧你的感觉真是神奇，他淡淡地回答：风口上而已。没了风，就没有这些了。Show Notes:GMGN的前世今生：最开始这个想法是怎么孕育的，核心用户是从什么渠道积累的产品迭代经历了哪些阶段GMGN 做社区的特点是老板自己也下场吗你觉得你们做产品这么多年积累下来的哪些经验和基础设施的优势在迭代GMGN时对你们有所帮助？功能迭代的流程你们最近支持了BNB Chain，很多业内人士开玩笑说你们收到了BNB Chain最高规格的接待。有一个很资深的在 BNB Chain 上做开发的朋友的观点是你们最初支持BNB Chain时还没有针对BNB Chain做太多优化。所以从那时到现在的变化是什么？BNB Chain 或者其他一些EVM链，相比Solana，最大的区别是什么memecoin真的有多链同时交易、链抽象前端和产品体验的需求吗海外与国际化：假设你们觉得Solana 长期还是很值得深耕，是否考虑全球化Memecoin 交易的下半场，你觉得在白热化的竞争里面，持续保持优势甚至拉开别人一头差距的重点在哪 Website：https://gmgn.ai/app Twitter（X）：@haze0x / @gmgnai
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Ep.49 [EN]: Nico: Sailing with OX.FUN in the first meme bull market
Shownotes:Self-introHow does it feel working on a project full time for an extended period of time?For those who don’t have any context Su Zhu had a “Supercycle” thesis for Ethereum in the previous bull run. So tell us under today’s context, what’s a Supercycle?!Why shifting from OPNX to OX.FUN?You guys are laser focused on Perps right now. I know you thought about doing a Launchpad but decided not to. What was the thought process?What kind of audience and market do you think you captured in the recent run-up? Who are your major users?You decided to go for a lot of OX pairs - that was definitely a bold move. Why so?What do you think about outcompeting other players in the space in the long run?Your feelings about all these different L1/2 ecosystems.Your view on Ethereum now?Mindshare perps. We preliminarily discussed this possibility before. Any plan on that?What are the major focuses on 2025 for OX?Your personal goal in the new year?!Twitter: @nicodotfun / @OXFUNHQWebsite: https://ox.fun/en
If you like this episode, you're welcome to tip with Ethereum / Solana / Bitcoin:如果喜欢本作品，欢迎打赏ETH/SOL/BTC：ETH: 0x83Fe9765a57C9bA36700b983Af33FD3c9920Ef20SOL: AaCeeEX5xBH6QchuRaUj3CEHED8vv5bUizxUpMsr1KytBTC: 3ACPRhHVbh3cu8zqtqSPpzNnNULbZwaNqG Important Disclaimer: All opinions expressed by Mable Jiang, or other podcast guests, are solely their opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as investment advice. Mable Jiang may hold positions in some of the projects discussed on this show. 重要声明：Mable Jiang或嘉宾在播客中的观点仅代表他们的个人看法。此播客仅用于提供信息，不作为投资参考。Mable Jiang有时可能会在此节目中讨论的某项目中持有头寸。
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Ep.48 [EN]: Joanna Zeng: Bringing the Best of SVM to scale Ethereum SOON
Show Notes:What brought you into into cryptoIntroduction of SOONThere were so many scaling solutions available. What was the thinking behind launching soon at this time? What’s the mission and vision behind?The mindshare around SOON has been growing lately. What did you guys do? What was the focus? How do you think about differentiation of SOON other than the scalability issues?Why did you go for a decoupled SVM design versus a forked one? What’s the tradeoff?What was the tradeoffs in the Fraud-Proof Security?And you took a modular approach for the architecture?What have you prepared in terms of developer incentives and programs?Any exciting partnerships coming up?What’s next?Twitter: @soon_svm / @justsayuluvjoWebsite: https://linktr.ee/soon_svm
If you like this episode, you're welcome to tip with Ethereum / Solana / Bitcoin:如果喜欢本作品，欢迎打赏ETH/SOL/BTC：ETH: 0x83Fe9765a57C9bA36700b983Af33FD3c9920Ef20SOL: AaCeeEX5xBH6QchuRaUj3CEHED8vv5bUizxUpMsr1KytBTC: 3ACPRhHVbh3cu8zqtqSPpzNnNULbZwaNqG Important Disclaimer: All opinions expressed by Mable Jiang, or other podcast guests, are solely their opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as investment advice. Mable Jiang may hold positions in some of the projects discussed on this show. 重要声明：Mable Jiang或嘉宾在播客中的观点仅代表他们的个人看法。此播客仅用于提供信息，不作为投资参考。Mable Jiang有时可能会在此节目中讨论的某项目中持有头寸。
欢迎来到HODLong 后浪。本节目由Mable Jiang主理，旨在和听众一起探索Web3 社区（项目运营者、投资人、其他生态系统参与者等），并特别关注于亚洲的Web3社区。
Welcome to HODLong 后浪. This is a podcast hosted by Mable Jiang. This show attempts to shed light on the broader Web3 community, whether that being operators, investors, or ecosystem participants of other forms, with a specific focus on the Asia-based Web3 world.
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