American Alchemy with Jesse Michels

Our American Alchemist this week is John S. Herrington, Ronald Reagan's Secretary of Energy, who ran America's nuclear weapons complex at the height of the Cold War.

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John joined Reagan as a volunteer advance man in the 1960s. He later served as Assistant Secretary of the Navy, head of White House personnel, and Secretary of Energy from 1985 to 1989. In this episode, John takes us inside Reagan's cabinet: the stealth fighter he found hidden in his own budget, the Strategic Defense Initiative and Edward Teller's nuclear-powered space laser, Reagan's "throw deep" approval of the Superconducting Super Collider, and the secret Taiwanese nuclear weapons program the U.S. shut down. He also takes on the UFO question. He says the Navy's UAP videos are real, but calls a Reagan-era alien story "total B.S." and challenges David Grusch and others to show hard evidence.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 - Introduction

1:28 - Brent Friedman's Story

4:26 - Interview Preview

6:28 - Sponsors (Zocdoc)

8:14 - Meeting Ronald Reagan

10:11 - Reagan and SDI Opposition

11:21 - Reagan's Diaries and Speeches

13:02 - Strategic Defense Initiative Explained

15:48 - Edward Teller and Excalibur

17:33 - Green Fireballs Document

18:47 - UFOs, Navy Videos and Faith

21:28 - Herrington Denies Brent's Story

24:49 - The Greenbrier Bunker

27:26 - Brent Friedman Responds

29:43 - The 1981 Veranda Conversation

33:04 - Underground Facilities in West Virginia

35:13 - Polygraph and Money Questions

36:12 - Why Brent Went Public

39:01 - David Grusch

41:36 - The Politico Journalist

44:32 - UFOs at Nuclear Sites

46:09 - Harald Malmgren's UFO Debris

49:06 - A Secret Budget Item

49:23 - Sponsors (Qualia)

50:59 - F-117 and Skunk Works

52:30 - UFOs as Spy Plane Cover

53:15 - Oak Ridge Document

53:53 - Garry Nolan's Ubatuba Sample

56:57 - Reagan's 1974 UFO Sighting

58:26 - Otherworldly or Man-Made

59:23 - Battle of Los Angeles and Secrecy

1:00:34 - AI and Deepfakes

1:01:26 - Stratton, Lacatski and Lazar

1:03:31 - UFOs at Pantex and Fukushima

1:05:07 - Bobby Ray Inman

1:06:06 - UFOs and the Ocean Floor

1:07:26 - CIA's Hollywood Liaison

1:09:00 - Limits on Elected Leaders

1:10:32 - Exotic Propulsion and Submarines

1:11:28 - Nuclear Airplanes and Project Orion

1:12:43 - Nuclear Tests and Roswell

1:13:37 - The Question of Evidence

1:15:37 - Palomar Observatory Transients

1:17:13 - Parapsychology and Precognition

1:18:30 - Trump and Disclosure

1:20:25 - Cold Fusion

1:21:26 - Spies at the Energy Department

1:22:38 - PROMIS Software and Bill Richardson

1:24:09 - Genesis Mission and Underfunded Programs

1:25:57 - Public Fear of Nuclear Power

1:27:10 - SAIC and Bobby Ray Inman

1:29:01 - High-Energy Physics and UFOs

1:31:01 - Marco Rubio on UAP

1:32:54 - Atomic Energy Act and Rickover

1:35:13 - Seafloor Recovery and Puthoff's Hypothesis

1:37:55 - The CIA, Gaffney and Casey

1:40:17 - Closing and Reagan Keepsakes

1:42:45 - Brent on the Hazing Theory

1:44:18 - DOE Roswell Hazing Ritual

1:47:43 - Consciousness and Initiation

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Our American Alchemists this week are Scott and Suzanne Ramsey, the husband-and-wife research team who have spent decades chasing the truth behind the Aztec, New Mexico UFO crash.

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Scott and Suzanne have interviewed dozens of firsthand witnesses, tracked down FBI files, and traced a decades-long smear campaign that got Aztec branded a "hoax" — even though it may be one of the most thoroughly documented UFO crash retrievals on record. In this episode, we take the Ramseys' research directly to Hart Canyon, where witnesses described a 100-foot craft, 16 alien bodies, and a Baptist minister called in to pray over the dead. We dig into the FBI documents, the CIA-linked debunker who tried to bury the story, and the string of researchers who died just as they got close to the truth.

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TIMESTAMPS0:00 - Introduction

5:30 - Meet the Ramseys

6:17 - How Scott found the case

8:38 - Arriving in Aztec

9:35 - Why the town stayed quiet

11:32 - How many witnesses

12:19 - March 24, 1948: Cuba, New Mexico

13:31 - Valentine Archuleta sees it come down

15:49 - Doug Noland and the saucer on the mesa

17:23 - More witnesses arrive

20:39 - Inside the craft

21:24 - Sponsors (Dose)

22:59 - The bodies

23:50 - Solon Brown, Baptist minister

24:59 - A helicopter in 1948

26:12 - The military takes the mesa

29:48 - Scientists study the craft

31:51 - Moving the craft off the mesa

35:03 - Erasing the retrieval team

38:04 - Fred Reed re-landscapes the site

40:24 - The marble found at the site

41:02 - Part two: Frank Scully

44:13 - J.P. Cahn

45:33 - Silas Newton

47:50 - Leo Gebauer's FBI file

49:10 - The 1953 fraud case

51:17 - What if they were set up

53:14 - George Koehler and the Denver lecture

54:08 - Newton as Scientist X

57:32 - Sponsors (Quo)

59:01 - Sponsors (Perplexity)

1:02:32 - John Torrence Tate

1:06:33 - The nine scientists

1:10:29 - The 4602d and UFOB reports

1:13:02 - Taken to Wright Field

1:16:36 - Could radar have downed it

1:21:07 - Jake Barber on microwave weapons

1:22:24 - The Hottel Memo

1:25:01 - Bill Steinman

1:30:01 - Chris Evans and Alice Scully

1:33:50 - A visitor at the crash site

1:38:24 - Cattle mutilations

1:40:35 - Testing the marble

1:47:10 - The break-in

1:50:03 - Credits and the Ramseys' book
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Our American Alchemist this week is Geoffrey Drumm, an independent researcher, author, and creator of The Land of Chem, focused on ancient technology and the true function of the Egyptian pyramids.

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Geoffrey Drumm began researching alternative theories about the pyramids in 2012 and first traveled to Egypt in 2017, where experiences at sites including the Red Pyramid helped shape his theory that ancient monuments may have functioned as industrial-scale chemical manufacturing systems. In this conversation, he explains why he believes the Step Pyramid extracted methane, the Red Pyramid produced ammonia, and the Great Pyramid manufactured sulfuric acid; how ancient stone circles and obelisks may have harnessed telluric currents and lightning; the possible connection between ball lightning, UFO sightings, and ancient sites; ancient weather modification; evidence for hidden tunnels and infrastructure beneath Giza; and why he believes the famous boat pits beside the Great Pyramid may have functioned as circuit breakers in a larger natural electrical network.

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0:00 - Introduction

3:07 - Revisiting the Filippo Biondi Interview

8:47 - Drumm's Confidence in the Scans

11:46 - Christopher Dunn's Power Plant Theory

13:23 - The Chemical Manufacturing Hypothesis

17:17 - Fritz Haber and Ammonia

21:10 - Who Built the Pyramids

25:11 - Telluric Currents Explained

29:09 - Stonehenge and the Altar Stone

31:28 - Lightning and Atmospheric Nitrates

32:51 - The Baltic Sea Anomaly

34:48 - Were Neolithic People Primitive?

37:05 - The Jomon and Komakino

39:43 - Sponsors (Neuro Gum)

41:41 - UFO Sightings at Kuromanta

42:35 - Blue Flames at the Pyramid

44:50 - The Varginha Incident

47:55 - Industrial Uses for Ammonia

48:57 - Younger Dryas and the Survivors

50:56 - Teotihuacan and Liquid Mercury

51:47 - Construction Materials and Mica

53:06 - White Horse Hills

56:06 - Schumann Resonance

59:12 - Michael Levin and Bioelectricity

1:00:40 - Stone Circles for Human Interface

1:03:39 - From Stone Circles to Pyramids

1:05:06 - Iron Veins Under the Great Pyramid

1:06:23 - Calcium Sulfate in the Queen's Chamber

1:08:57 - Newgrange as Passage Chamber Reactor

1:10:40 - Why Build in Egypt

1:13:28 - Discovering Sulfuric Acid

1:16:39 - The Output of Each Pyramid

1:17:53 - The Kardashev Scale

1:19:21 - Why These Chemicals Mattered

1:21:34 - Sponsors (Qualia)

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1:24:27 - What the Chemicals Were For

1:25:41 - Weather Modification Technology

1:26:59 - When the Knowledge Was Lost

1:29:05 - Greeks, Romans, and Evidence

1:32:11 - Andrew Hall and the Thunderbolts Project

1:34:32 - Conviction Level

1:36:54 - Favorite Piece of Evidence

1:39:59 - Robert Schoch and Lichtenberg Figures

1:43:59 - Electroculture

1:46:52 - The Boat Pits as Circuit Breakers

1:49:34 - Pyramid Alignments and Orion

1:53:16 - The Inverse Piezoelectric Effect

1:56:19 - Drumm's Bold Prediction

1:58:54 - The Ministry of Antiquities

2:01:33 - Lack of Recognition

2:04:46 - The Hawara Labyrinth

2:06:27 - Lost Ancient High Technology

2:07:20 - Leaving a Career Behind

2:09:19 - The Abusir Collection Bowl

2:10:02 - The Etymology of Chem

2:12:42 - Ammonia in the Red Pyramid

2:15:00 - The Hotel Encounter

2:19:34 - Theories About the Stranger

2:23:31 - Channels and Outro

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Our American Alchemist this week is Grant Cameron, a Canadian UFO researcher, author, and longtime investigator of government secrecy and the UFO phenomenon.

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Grant Cameron has investigated UFOs since 1975, when a series of sightings known as “Charlie Red Star” drew him into the subject. Over the decades, his research has taken him through presidential UFO records, government documents, alleged crash-retrieval programs, intelligence insiders, and figures including Eric Walker, Bob Lazar, Tim Taylor, and members of the CIA community. In this conversation, Cameron recounts his interactions with alleged UFO insiders, explains how he obtained the Wilson-Davis memo, discusses the CIA’s so-called “Weird Desk,” government disinformation and managed disclosure, alleged UFO retrievals, portals and time travel programs, and why he believes the deepest secret behind the phenomenon may be consciousness rather than the craft themselves.

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TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Intro

02:30 Sponsor — Incogni

06:22 Carman, Manitoba and Charlie Red Star

08:42 The night it came in front of the car

11:35 "That is so cool — but what is it doing?"

14:14 The Mickelsen Safeguard site and the 1975 wave

16:52 Stan Romanek

19:33 The Audrey phone calls

22:32 John Alexander turns up

25:41 Back to 1975: is there footage?

28:21 Ray Hernandez and the contact modalities

30:29 Wilbert B. Smith and Project Magnet

33:32 The Top Secret memo — the five points

36:02 William Steinman and Dr. Eric Wang

39:08 Roswell, Doty and the first phone calls

41:45 Loring, Wurtsmith, Minot: autumn 1975

44:55 The LBJ UFO study

47:24 The panel: the same names every time

49:45 Frances Swan, the channeler from Eliot, Maine

52:04 Vannevar Bush and the dollar-a-year men

54:12 "Go to the window"

56:32 Bob Jacobs and the 1964 Vandenberg film

59:23 Paul Shartle at Norton AFB

1:02:05 Holloman: 1971 or 1964?

1:04:14 Close Encounters and the Spielberg connection

1:06:27 The F-4 debunk

1:08:27 "The Pentagon storyboarded it"

1:10:55 Does the Vandenberg film still exist?

1:13:17 Congress and the classified film

1:18:40 How the Wilson-Davis memo got onto the internet

1:21:01 Teller, the Q clearance and December 6th

1:23:54 Tim Good: only at the base five or six times

1:26:39 Ad break — Ridge and MUD\WTR

1:29:30 Why they never fired Lazar

1:31:56 DARPA: talking to a computer with your mind

1:35:16 Is the disclosure push their plan?

1:37:32 Jim Semivan's seven-hour briefing

1:40:03 A craft that only opens if you vibrate right

1:42:30 Ron Johnson in the spirit world

1:44:56 Do the beings need bases?

1:47:08 "What do you know about ESP?"

1:49:44 Kingman: "How do you know they didn't walk away?"

1:51:41 Malmgren, Bobby Ray Inman and IDA

1:54:19 How Steinman found Eric Walker

1:56:07 "Why change the rules to satisfy your curiosity?"

1:57:50 Nixon, Jackie Gleason and Homestead

2:01:34 The Nixon letter to Emenegger

2:03:51 Paul Hellyer's dying witness

2:06:20 Stephen Lovekin, Eisenhower and Mount Weather

2:09:31 Reading the presidential libraries

2:11:44 The Reince Priebus briefing

2:13:48 Tim Taylor, NASA and Chris Bledsoe

2:16:13 Meeting Tim Taylor in 2013

2:18:44 The breadcrumbs: paintings and a postcard

2:20:16 The jump room

2:23:44 The Panama Canal tape

2:26:46 Dan Smith, Los Alamos and live aliens

2:29:24 The Jasons and gravitational waves

2:32:36 The Rockefeller Initiative

2:35:14 Kit Green goes to see Eric Walker

2:37:40 Semivan, Green and Tom DeLonge

2:40:43 Hillary, Kimmel and the practiced answer

2:42:34 The tar baby

2:44:46 Trump caught off guard

2:47:18 Portal tech versus nuts and bolts

2:49:35 The 36 people who flew the craft

2:52:33 Someone always standing behind you

2:55:08 "It is within you"

2:56:59 Skepticism, Descartes and the left-brain interpreter

3:00:24 Skinwalker Ranch is reflective

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In 1977, two Air Force security policemen guarding nuclear missiles at Ellsworth Air Force Base encountered a massive craft, non-human beings, and lost nine hours of time. The military separated them. One was discharged. The other spent 47 years searching for his partner.

We found him.

This is the story of Mario Woods and Michael Johnson: the Ellsworth AFB incident, the reunion, and the first-ever dual hypnotic regression revealing what both men saw on the craft that night.

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TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Introduction

05:16 - The First Phone Call

15:18 - Mario and Michael Reunite

18:41 - Michael's First Memories

20:44 - Mario Tells the Full Story

24:39 - Alarm at November-5

26:31 - The Craft Above the Site

30:23 - The Black Sphere

33:13 - Do Not Fear

35:55 - Waking at the Reservoir

37:19 - The Recovery Team

39:49 - Separate Interrogations

42:14 - Sponsors (Ketone IQ)

43:40 - Sodium Pentothal

45:40 - Michael's Weakened Arm

48:15 - Questioning and Gaslighting

50:57 - Mario's Exam and Skin Sample

52:18 - The Debrief Room and Discharge

55:16 - The Missing Hours

56:38 - Yvonne Smith

57:51 - Michael's Regression Begins

1:00:08 - The Beings at the Windshield

1:02:51 - Taken From the Truck

1:05:11 - Mario's Regression

1:07:21 - The Examination

1:13:30 - Michael Watches the Playback

1:17:04 - Two Men, The Same Words

1:18:00 - Aftermath on Base

1:24:17 - The Glove on the Shiny Floor

1:27:57 - Mario's Room of Antiques

1:30:39 - Walking Among Us

1:31:30 - Robert Bigelow and Harry Reid

1:33:27 - Robert Hastings

1:35:45 - UFOs and Nukes

1:36:32 - Malmstrom, Big Sur, Vandenberg

1:38:30 - International Cases

1:39:59 - Roswell and Ellsworth, 1953

1:43:41 - Two More Ellsworth Cases

1:46:08 - The Eisenhower Rumor

1:48:45 - Rick Doty

1:51:39 - The L9 Incident Document

1:54:50 - Doty's Connection to L9

1:59:12 - The Changing Public Frame

2:00:58 - Keeping the Secret

2:03:32 - Sponsors (Factor)

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2:05:59 - Propulsion Systems Are Grown

2:08:51 - Cattle Mutilations

2:09:48 - Nuclear Sites on Sacred Land

2:12:55 - Close Encounters of the Third Kind

2:15:53 - 1977 Synchronicities

2:17:52 - The Forty-Nine Year Milestone

2:19:56 - Michael's Childhood in St. Louis

2:25:37 - Mario's First Sighting, 1961

2:30:11 - Michael's Missing Time in Nevada

2:34:36 - The Last Day in Austin

2:36:57 - GoFundMe for Mario and Michael

2:37:59 - What Actually Happened?

2:38:52 - Daniel and the Angels

2:46:38 - Closing Thoughts and Outro

TIMESTAMPS
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