The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

We're doing a back episode this week since it's Groundhog Day!
Pamela Smart has received a hearing date in late February 2026. We don't have news yet whether this will be an evidentiary hearing or just process, but Mel will keep you informed as the news comes out.
Pam's attorneys feel confident that their arguments are solid and based in NH case law, so if the state of NH doesn't hear this case, it proves politics are at play once again when it comes to Pamela Smart.
Stay tuned! It's going to be an interesting year!
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Episode Description:
It's been a long road, but we're finally here. Pamela Smart's attorneys have filed a petition of Habeus Corpus asking for a new trial or at the very least resentencing and they've given me access to the petition. I've been investigating Pam's case for going on a decade and some of the work I did on the first season of The In Between Podcast became the basis for this Habeus. I'm always so proud of the work I do on The In Between Podcast, but this case has been my white whale and I'm so honored to be apart of these arguments.
I want to share what I can with you, so without further adieu, here are the five points Pam's case will hinge on.
PLEASE PLEASE share her story.

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Within hours of Alex Pretti being killed by a federal officer in Minneapolis, the government decided who he was.
They said he was a terrorist.
They said he came to kill law enforcement.
They said the case was clear.
But the evidence tells a very different story.
Alex Pretti was a 37-year-old ICU nurse, a licensed gun owner, and a U.S. citizen who was filming a federal immigration enforcement operation when things escalated. Video shows him holding a phone. Witnesses say he moved toward a woman who had been shoved to the ground. Seconds later, he was dead.
In this episode of The In Between, Mel Barrett breaks down what actually happened — and what happened next: how senior officials in the Trump administration rushed to declare motive, intent, and guilt before the public had access to the evidence; how the right’s long-standing claims about guns, protests, and “intent” suddenly collapsed; and how a coordinated narrative blitz turned a witness into a threat.
This is not just a story about a killing.
It’s a story about how the state controls the narrative after lethal force — and why some lives are explained away instead of examined.
Because once the public accepts the label, the questions stop.
And that’s how accountability dies.
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Mel and Rebecca welcome Karen Read Dramaturge, Jimmy aka Auntie Deb, to the show to dish on all things Read adjacent and pop culture. We had a blast with Jimmy, though he does show up late. 🤣 
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Mel and Rebecca discuss KAren Read updates, the Turtleboy movie, Aaron Spencer trial updates, police corruption and civil rights.
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0:00 Intro + Nightline/Other Updates
11:20 David Yanetti + should Rebecca play poker?
25:05 Updates from the show with Maggie Freleng
36:53 Karen Read updates/sidebar info
51:45 What’s up with paid commenters?
58:45 Aaron Spencer Case Info/Updates
1:20:33 Police Corruption/Civil Rights Discussion
1:27:16 Can we use all the bad to bring people together?
1:39:42 Discussion of politicized language/freedom of speech
1:47:20 Dyson AirWrap…share the show… goodbye for now!