The Day Trading Show

Can futures traders actually make money trading options? Tanner Owings (The Strong Trader) sits down with Austin Silver, Evan Dyer and Randy Bains in New York City to break down the jump from futures to options — and why options prop firms make it low-risk to learn.
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We cover why fixed risk makes options easier to manage than futures, why you should start with QQQ and SPY if you already trade NQ and ES, how to find stocks in play using volume and post-earnings catalysts, and why implied volatility can make or break your trade.
Tanner also tells the story of the $3K NDX 0DTE trade that would have turned into $600K — and why he cut it 20 minutes early.

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Plus: gamma hype vs. keeping it simple, paralysis by analysis, hiring a trading psychologist 7 years in, and what walking onto the NYSE floor meant to the crew.

TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Highlights
1:23 - Intro: Tanner, Evan & Randy in NYC
3:43 - Fixed risk: why options can be safer than futures
8:24 - NQ = QQQ, ES = SPY: the easiest transition
13:44 - Volume: the #1 way to find stocks in play
15:47 - The $3K trade that could've been $600K
19:16 - Is options trading just gambling?
22:21 - Implied volatility explained (GME vs Home Depot)
25:34 - Is gamma overhyped?
28:23 - Selling premium & theta decay
36:53 - Why most traders fail: time in the game
42:43 - Walking into the New York Stock Exchange

There's over $500,000 in real payouts at this table, all made this year, and three completely different strategies behind it. This episode proves there isn't one right way to make money trading.

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I sat down with Chris, Nick, and Zach, three profitable traders who all run mentorships, and asked them to push back on each other. We get into VWAP Wave, reading market conditions, order flow scalping on NQ, why ORB still doesn't work, and what separates amateurs from professionals.

They also break down the rules that made them money, and they explain why every trader should be planning a move from prop firms to personal capital before the prop space changes.

This is the less flashy side of trading. No Ferraris, no Chrome Hearts. Just real trading from people doing it with real capital.

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1:30 Meet the guests: $500K+ in real payouts
6:01 VWAP Wave and reading market conditions
10:28 Why profitable traders still coach
13:33 Can anyone make a living trading?
19:28 Best rules: 40-minute time stop and "don't fade strength"
23:09 Why daily profit expectations are a death sentence
31:57 "ORB is trash": old-school education vs today
34:37 Prop firms vs personal capital: taxes, rules, and freedom
41:07 The future of prop firms: should you be preparing?

In this episode, Austin Silver sits down with Zarb (Zach), a profitable prop trader who just took home $45K in payouts in a single month. We dive deep into how he structured accounts across Top One Futures & Futures Elite, why lower contract sizing led to bigger profits, the difference between New York & Asia session trading strategies, managing multiple accounts without burning out, and the mental game of trading when you don't need the money. 

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Zarb shares his journey from struggling trader to consistent six-figure annual payouts, the mistakes he made early on, and exactly how he's positioning himself for even bigger months ahead. 

Topics Covered:
✅ How he structured accounts across Top One Futures & Futures Elite
✅ Why lower contract sizing led to bigger profits
✅ The difference between New York & Asia session trading strategies
✅ Managing multiple accounts without burning out
✅ The mental game: trading when you don't need the money
✅ Why prop firms are a net positive for retail traders
✅ What's next: scaling to 6-figures with copy trading
✅ Live account transitions & account selection edge
✅ The truth about rushing payouts vs. playing the long game

0:00 Intro - Zarb's $45K August Payout Month
1:20 Welcome Back - Best Month Ever Follow-Up
6:00 July Zero Payouts, August Massive Month
11:20 New Prop Firms - Top One Futures & Futures Elite
15:17 The Secret - "Disgustingly Low" Spend on $45K Payout
17:00 Mindset Shift - Stop Rushing, Size Down, Widen Stops
23:50 Biggest Regrets - What He'd Do Differently as New Trader
27:07 Hot Take - Are Prop Firms Net Positive or Negative?
32:00 Zarb's Liquidity Lab - Building His Own Trading Community
40:40 Scaling Strategy - Copy Trading 10-30 Accounts Simultaneously
48:00 Going Live - Top One Futures Live Account & Next Goals

Former 500K-sub bodybuilder turned futures trader Lucas Pinheiro shares how he transitioned from personal training to making $45K in monthly payouts. Learn his high-win-rate prop trading strategy, why he switched to Tokyo sessions, how he manages multiple accounts simultaneously, and the mindset shift required to succeed—plus why trading without external income sources leads to failure.

Connect with Lucas -  @LPTradesFt 

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0:00 Opening Mindset - Winning vs. Execution
1:19 Podcast Intro & Lucas's Journey
3:00 Moving to Miami at 19 - The Brazilian Dream
5:00 Law School Drop & Sports Career Path
8:00 First Bodybuilding Competition Win
9:00 Building a 500K+ Subscriber Channel
11:00 Transition from Bodybuilding to Trading
12:00 Bitcoin Discovery (2019) & Crypto Interest
14:00 First Forex Trade Loss & Learning Curve
19:00 The $13K Loss - Emotional Breakthrough
22:00 Retiring from Bodybuilding (2021)
23:00 Real Estate Arbitrage in Brazil
25:00 Selling 4 Properties & Moving Back to Brazil
27:00 Why Switch to Futures Trading?
29:00 Starting the Trading YouTube Channel
31:00 Live Streaming Trades - The Missing Angle
34:00 Growing to 42K Subscribers in 4 Months
37:00 Why Traders Fail - The Psychology
38:00 Bodybuilder Mindset vs. Trading Mindset
40:00 Need Money Before Trading (Risk Management)
44:00 Marriage & Support System During Losses
45:00 Prop Firm Payouts & Account Strategy
47:00 Risk-to-Reward: Personal vs. Prop Accounts
50:00 Copy Trading Strategy Across Multiple Accounts
52:00 Tokyo Session vs. New York Session Switch
54:00 $45K Payout Month & Best Results
56:00 Weekly Payout Strategy & Risk Bucketing
59:00 Handling Max Loss Days with High Win Rate
1:01:00 Current Opportunity in Prop Trading
1:02:00 Outro & Connecting with Lucas

James Bruce shares his raw recovery story: a catastrophic $50K loss in one day due to a trade copier error on New Year's Eve 2021, followed by a brutal seven-month drawdown that nearly broke him.
The key lesson: don't make trading your identity. After making $150K in 2020, he hit rock bottom but stayed locked in because he'd proven it was possible before.
Learn why sizing down matters, how to rebuild after massive losses, the importance of having income outside trading, and why showing losses publicly (not just wins) is critical for the trading community. From near-bankruptcy to $70K+ in payouts, this is the unfiltered truth about trader recovery.

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1:23 - James Bruce intro: $70K payouts this year
4:12 - How James found Austin (mid-2019)
5:00 - Borrowed money from dad for Austin's course
10:04 - 2020 success: Made $150K with father-in-law's capital
10:20 - 2021 seven-month drawdown begins
12:00 - Biggest lesson: Don't make trading your identity
13:00 - The $50K loss story (trade copier error on New Year's Eve)
16:00 - Character building & resilience from massive losses
18:00 - Tweet: Why trading shouldn't be your only income source
36:00 - Why showing losses publicly is critical for community
38:00 - Birthday week: Down $32K, recovered $50K next week
42:00 - Why win rate matters more than R-multiple