The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Jasmine Hood
Founder of Better Bodies Massage in Atlanta (originally from Greenville, South Carolina), joined Rushion McDonald on Money Making Conversations Masterclass to share her journey from CNA to licensed massage therapist, the realities of being a traveling service provider, and the wellness benefits of massage therapy.
She discusses body alignment, stress, trauma release, the differences between massage modalities, alternative treatments like cupping, entrepreneurship during COVID‑19, safety considerations for mobile therapists, corporate/wellness partnerships, and her long‑term goal of building a scalable massage brand supported by contractors.
🎯 Purpose of the Interview
The interview aims to:
Highlight how massage therapy supports physical and emotional wellness, including stress, posture, and pain relief.
Educate listeners on the types of massages, proper stretching techniques, and how body tension accumulates.
Explore entrepreneurship in the wellness space, including launching a business during COVID‑19.
Discuss safety and professionalism in mobile massage therapy.
Show how Jasmine is building a sustainable small business through networking, corporate events, and contractor partnerships.
🔑 Key Takeaways 1. Career Shift & Fearless Beginnings
Jasmine switched from working as a CNA to moving to Atlanta alone with no support system—motivated by a desire for change and inspired by her mother’s independence.
She emphasized overcoming fear and taking leaps even when circumstances are uncertain.
2. Massage Therapy Is Both Physical & Emotional Healing
Massage releases tension, trauma, and stress stored in the body, especially in the neck, shoulders, and lower back.
Many people carry pain from work, daily habits, or emotional strain—and massage helps restore balance.
3. The Three Most Popular Massage Types
Jasmine explained the differences clearly:
Swedish Massage — Gentle, relaxing, ideal for beginners and stress relief.
Deep Tissue — Targets chronic pain and trigger points but may be intense for clients who are not accustomed to it.
Sports Massage — Faster movements, stretching, and ideal for athletes.
She stressed that deep tissue should not be rushed—the muscle needs warming before intense pressure.
4. Stretching Is Critical—Most People Do It Wrong
Stretching should be held 30 seconds to 1 minute, not quick movements or rolling the neck.
Consistent stretching prevents the “tight forward lean” posture many people develop.
Lower‑body stretches (glutes, hamstrings, hips) dramatically improve back pain.
5. Travel Massage: Safety, Boundaries & Professionalism
Jasmine screens new clients by phone before accepting appointments.
She immediately declines inappropriate requests (e.g., sexualized services).
She only sees first‑time clients during daylight and shares her location with trusted contacts.
She maintains a clear, therapeutic-only brand despite public misconceptions.
6. Entrepreneurship Journey & Business Model
She built her business during COVID‑19, initially offering lower prices, then raising them as her brand grew.
Corporate wellness events and golf tournaments became a major revenue stream.
She hires contractors to scale for events.
Her long‑term goal is “mailbox money”—a business run by a team while she steps away from hands-on work.
7. Alternative Treatment: Cupping Therapy
Cupping uses suction to pull stagnant blood, loosen muscle tissue, and improve circulation.
Cups can remain stationary or be moved along the back to flush tension.
8. The Jasmine Experience
Sessions are designed around clients’ comfort, in their own homes, with their preferred music and ambiance.
Post‑massage, clients can immediately rest—no stress of getting dressed or driving home.
🗣️ Notable Quotes ✔ On taking risks
“I just jumped up and moved. I didn’t know anyone… I just said I’m going to start over.”

✔ On stress in the body
“We all carry trauma. When you’re stressed, it all ends up in your body.”

✔ On deep tissue massage
“If it gets to be too much, let me know. Don’t be afraid to speak up.”

✔ On stretching
“If you don’t use it, you’re going to lose it.”

✔ On business growth
“Some days are easy and some days are like… alright, don’t know. But you keep going.”

✔ On long‑term goals
“I don’t plan on being hands-on forever. The goal is to build my brand and have a team I can send out—like Amazon.”

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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Yasmine Cheyenne.
📝 Summary of the Interview
Yasmine Cheyenne, an Air Force veteran, mental wellness advocate, and author, joined Rushion McDonald to discuss her journey from a disadvantaged upbringing to becoming a published author and wellness coach. She shared insights from her books—The Sugar Jar and her latest, Wisdom of the Path—which focus on boundaries, healing, and self-empowerment. The conversation explored her military experience, personal transformation, and how she helps others confront fear and reclaim their lives.
🔑 Key Takeaways 1. Overcoming Fear and Taking Risks
Fear of failure and disappointment keeps many people stuck.
Yasmine encourages people to confront fear and take action anyway.
Her own decision to join the Air Force was a leap of faith that changed her life.
2. Military Discipline and Life Lessons
The Air Force taught her discipline, consistency, and resilience.
She applies these lessons to her personal and professional life.
Quote: “Do you want to bet on yourself? Be willing to believe in yourself.”
3. Writing as Empowerment
Her first book, The Sugar Jar, focuses on boundaries and self-care.
Her second book, Wisdom of the Path, is about using past experiences as wisdom, not shame.
Writing helped her transform her life and inspire others from similar backgrounds.
4. Boundaries and Self-Prioritization
Without boundaries, people become overwhelmed and resentful.
Saying “no” and advocating for yourself is essential to mental wellness.
Quote: “We have to get comfortable letting people be disappointed with us.”
5. Redefining “Selfish”
Being selfish is often misunderstood.
Prioritizing yourself is necessary for success and well-being.
Quote: “Every successful person has had to be selfish at some point.”
6. Wisdom of the Path
The book encourages readers to trust their instincts and take the next step.
It’s not a checklist—it’s a collection of relatable stories and reflections.
Quote: “Use those experiences that you’re judging yourself for as wisdom to help you move forward.”
7. Mental Wellness Practice
Yasmine helps people through coaching, writing, and speaking.
She emphasizes healing through storytelling and shared experiences.
8. Accessibility
Her books are available in print, digital, and audio formats.
She personally narrates the audiobook version of Wisdom of the Path.
💬 Notable Quotes
“Even if things fail, you have what it takes to get yourself to where you want to be.”
“Take the meat and leave the bone.”
“You already know what the next step is. What would happen if you just took it?”
“We’ve been an enemy toward ourselves for years and don’t even realize it.”
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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Anthony Tuggle.
Senior executive, transformational advisor, and founder/CEO of Tag Us Worldwide. With more than 30 years of leading global operations at AT\&T and other Fortune 10 organizations, Tuggle shares lessons in leadership, resilience, corporate success, personal health battles, entrepreneurship, and the importance of emotional intelligence in the AI era.
His story blends professional excellence with survival, detailing how he overcame kidney failure, a transplant, dialysis, and even kidney cancer—while simultaneously rising to the executive ranks and later launching his own leadership transformation company.
🎯 Purpose of the Interview
The interview’s goals were to:
1. Highlight Anthony Tuggle’s leadership journey
From a corporate executive managing global teams to the CEO of Tag Us Worldwide.
2. Share actionable insights on corporate success and leadership development
He explains the importance of foundation, consistency, emotional intelligence, and taking care of people.
3. Discuss the importance of DEI and equitable leadership
Tuggle emphasizes why diverse backgrounds, and diverse thoughts build strong companies.
4. Reveal the personal health challenges that shaped his perspective
His story serves as instruction, caution, and motivation.
5. Promote Tag Us Worldwide
A transformation consultancy helping organizations elevate culture and leadership.
💡 Key Takeaways
1. Success Requires Hard Work, Foundation & Intentionality
Success is not accidental.
Tuggle stresses:
Education (undergrad + MBA from Emory’s Goizueta Business School)
Moving 12 times across the country for opportunities
Consistency and showing up
“Stay ready so you don’t have to get ready” is one of his core principles.
2. Leadership = Taking Care of People
Tuggle explains that high-performing organizations have one thing in common:
Leaders take care of people, and people take care of the business.
He built a reputation for developing leaders who now lead in Fortune 50 companies.
3. Understanding the Rules of the Game Matters
Whether you’re an entrepreneur or corporate professional, there are rules:
Professionalism
Performance
Relationship building
Consistency
Respecting organizational culture
Many people fail because they enter the “game” without learning its rules.
4. DEI and Access Are Non-Negotiable for Strong Organizations
Tuggle is a firm supporter of diversity, equity, inclusion, both in culture and thought.
He says he would not be where he is today without people giving him a chance.
5. His Corporate Career Was Truly Global
He managed large teams across:
The Philippines
Costa Rica
Mexico
This global lens influences his approach to transformation and scaling businesses.
6. His Health Journey Defines His Resilience
Anthony Tuggle's story is extraordinary:
• Kidney failure in his 20s
Doctor told him he “should be dead.”
Caused by untreated hypertension.
• 25-year kidney transplant survivor
He received a deceased donor kidney and outlived the typical 10–15-year expectancy—twice.
• Kidney transplant failed again after 25 years
He returned to dialysis (hemodialysis → peritoneal dialysis).
• Kidney cancer diagnosis—found early
While preparing for another transplant, doctors discovered kidney cancer caused by long-term immunosuppressant medications.
He survived it: stage 1, noninvasive.
These challenges fuel his drive, urgency, and refusal to waste life.
7. Faith Was His Anchor Throughout
When diagnosed with kidney failure, he got on his knees and prayed.
He says God told him, “We're not done.”
This became his mantra for survival and purpose. [
8. Tag Us Worldwide: “Together Achieving Greatness”
His company focuses on:
Leadership transformation
Cultural elevation
Organizational outcomes
Preparing leaders for the AI-powered future
Tag Us delivers impact through:
Real-world corporate experience
AI-enhanced strategy
Emotional intelligence coaching
Business transformation frameworks
He blends AI + EQ, insisting companies should never rely on AI alone.
9. AI Won’t Replace Humans—But Humans Who Use AI Will Win
Tuggle led an AI organization for four years, and his stance is clear:
AI is here to stay
The “secret sauce” is people
Leaders must embrace change, not fear it
Emotional intelligence will enhance AI outcomes
10. Legacy = Family + Leadership + Service
He emphasizes shaping his daughter’s worldview and standards.
She graduated with honors from USC’s Marshall Business School.
He believes leaders should create environments where people can win—and that is his mission.
🗣 Notable Quotes (with citations) On success
“I didn’t just wake up and look like this—I put in the hard work.” [
On leadership
“If you take care of your people, they take care of you.”
On preparation
“Stay ready—we don’t have to get ready.” [
On DEI
“You need diversity of color but also diversity of thought.”
On fear
“I faced many obstacles throughout my life… fear becomes motivation.” [
On AI
“Good leaders embrace change. Great leaders inspire change.” [
On resilience
“I am highly favored… I’ve beaten the odds twice.” [
On purpose
“My passion is leadership; my purpose is changing lives.” [
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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Ronnie Williams.
Founder & CEO of Forever Staffing Healthcare Agency, a Black woman–owned healthcare staffing firm based in Green Bay, Wisconsin. She discusses her journey from CNA → HR → Entrepreneur, the challenges in healthcare staffing, the importance of strategic placement, and the growth of her company from local to national reach.
Rushion McDonald guides the conversation toward themes of ambition, entrepreneurship, burnout in healthcare, pay disparities, and the mechanics of building a staffing agency from scratch.
Purpose of the Interview
The interview aims to:
1. Highlight a Black woman entrepreneur’s journey
Williams shares how she transitioned from physically demanding CNA work to HR and eventually starting her own national staffing agency.
2. Educate listeners about healthcare staffing realities
She explains burnout, pay issues, and staffing challenges common in the healthcare industry, especially among CNAs.
3. Offer insights on entrepreneurship and leadership
She breaks down what it takes to launch and scale a staffing agency—HR, legal, budgeting, recruiting strategy, and more.
4. Provide practical information for clinicians and healthcare facilities
Williams explains how candidates can join her roster and how facilities can partner with her agency.
Key Takeaways 1. Ronnie’s Career Path
Started as a CNA in 2000 caring for seniors and people with disabilities.
Later transitioned into HR and recruiting to continue helping people in a less physically demanding way.
Always felt like a leader in corporate roles and wanted to start her own business.
2. Why She Founded Forever Staffing
Wanted to offer better support to healthcare facilities and clinicians.
Initially intended to serve Green Bay, but national demand found her—clients from Texas and Arizona reached out organically.
3. Burnout in Healthcare
She outlines the real causes of burnout:
Understaffing (one caregiver for up to 25 residents).
Long shifts and overtime.
Emotional strain from caring for sick or end‑of‑life patients.
Continuous lifting and physical demands.
4. Pay Disparities
CNAs are underpaid despite being on the “front lines.”
CNA pay ranges from $15–28/hr depending on setting.
RN pay ranges from $33–60/hr.
5. Strategic Staffing Approach
Her agency doesn’t just “post jobs”—they:
Actively source candidates.
Conduct phone interviews and vetting.
Review background checks and confirm active certifications.
6. Easy Entry Into In‑Home Care
In‑home caregiving is one of the easiest positions to fill.
They can train new caregivers and help them get certified.
Background checks and compassion are the primary requirements.
7. How to Work With Her Agency
Clinicians:
Apply via the “Apply Now” tab on ForeverStaffing.org by uploading a resume.
Facilities:
Use the “Become a Partner” tab to schedule a meeting for direct hire, per‑diem, last‑minute, or contract staffing.

Notable Quotes from Ronnie Williams On Why She Became a CNA
“I love helping people… my entire family are in the health care field. I’m a giver.”

On Transitioning Out of CNA Work
“Being a CNA was very physical… I wanted a career where I can still help people but on a broader side.”
On Leadership and Entrepreneurship
“I always felt like I was the leader. I should be hosting the meetings, implementing things.”

On Pay Disparities
“CNAs need more money. They do most of the physical things and I think they should get more pay.”
On Expansion Beyond Wisconsin
“National came out of the blue… I started getting clients in Texas and Arizona messaging me.”

On Strategic Staffing
“We don’t just staff—we get to know our clients… where they’re spending the most money and their hard‑to‑fill positions.”
On Being Her Own Boss
“The advantage is flexibility… leaving a legacy for my kids… I can build a diverse team and hire who I want.”

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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dr. George C. Fraser.
Interview Purpose
The purpose of this interview is to educate, challenge, and mobilize listeners—particularly within the Black community—toward financial literacy, economic empowerment, and generational wealth creation. Dr. Fraser uses his platform to stress that financial freedom is not accidental; it is the result of disciplined habits, strategic thinking, and collective economic action. He also emphasizes the critical role of networking, education, and ownership in shifting long‑standing economic disparities.
Core Themes Discussed 1. Financial Literacy as a Survival Skill
Dr. Fraser repeatedly emphasizes that financial illiteracy is dangerous and self‑defeating. He notes that many people are never formally taught how money works, leading to avoidable financial hardship. He argues that talking openly about money—in families, churches, and communities—is essential for progress.
2. The Three Rules of Financial Freedom
Dr. Fraser outlines three foundational rules that, if consistently followed, lead to financial stability and independence:
Housing costs should not exceed one week’s income
Only borrow money to make money
As income increases, cost of living should stay the same or decrease
These rules are positioned as practical guardrails that protect individuals from overextension and debt traps.
3. Habits That Keep People Broke
The interview details six destructive financial habits, including impulse buying, misuse of credit cards, paying minimum balances, and failing to build an emergency fund. Dr. Fraser stresses that these habits compound over time and prevent long‑term wealth accumulation.txt).
4. Generational Wealth Requires Structure
Dr. Fraser introduces four pillars necessary for intergenerational wealth transfer:
Proper management of accumulated wealth
Real estate ownership
Business ownership
Intentional investing
He explains that income alone does not create wealth; systems and ownership do.txt).
5. From Consumption to Ownership
A recurring message is the need to shift from being a consumer class to becoming a producer and merchant class. Dr. Fraser encourages entrepreneurship at every level—no matter how small—to build ownership and control economic outcomes.txt).
6. Networking and Collective Economics
Dr. Fraser highlights the importance of strategic networking and introduces concepts behind FraserNet and virtual economic ecosystems designed to connect Black professionals, businesses, and intellectual capital globally. He frames networking as an economic strategy, not a social activity.
Key Takeaways
Financial freedom follows rules, discipline, and education, not luck
Talking openly about money is essential to breaking cycles of poverty
Debt should only be used as a tool to produce returns
Living below one’s means creates capital for investing
Generational wealth requires planning, ownership, and systems
Multiple income streams are no longer optional—they are necessary
Networking is a vehicle for wealth creation and scale

Notable Quotes
“Your rent or mortgage should be no more than what you make in a week.”
“Only borrow money to make money.”.
“As your income increases, your cost of living should decrease or stay the same.”.
“Stop living above your means. Stop living within your means. Live below your means—and invest the rest.”.
“We are at the bottom of every economic statistic that matters. Education is the answer.”.
“There should not be a Black person in America with a single stream of income.”
“In America, somebody is always buying and somebody is always selling. Stop doing all the buying—sell something.”.
Conclusion
Dr. George C. Fraser’s interview serves as a call to action. It challenges listeners to confront unhealthy financial habits, embrace education, prioritize ownership, and build networks that support long‑term economic empowerment. The conversation underscores that true wealth is not about income alone, but about control, discipline, and legacy
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