Hard Fork

For the next few months on “Hard Fork,” join the guest host Max Read and an array of Times reporters and experts as we zoom out, catch up and try to understand both what’s happening inside the tech industry and what tech is doing to all of us.
Meet the Host
Max Read has been writing about technology and the internet for more than a decade, most recently in his weekly newsletter, Read Max. His writing has appeared over the years in various publications with the words “New York” in the title, including New York magazine, The New York Times and The New York Times Magazine. He has also recently been dispensing workplace advice as everyone’s “Work Friend.”
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In this episode, Ezra travels to Nvidia’s headquarters in Santa Clara, Calif., for a wide-ranging conversation with the chief executive Jensen Huang about the future of A.I. and why he thinks predictions of imminent doom are overblown.

Guests:
Jensen Huang, chief executive of Nvidia

Additional Reading:
A transcript and video of this episode can be found here.
America’s A.I. Leaders Warn U.N. of Possible Peril Absent a Global Response
Anthropic Releases a New A.I. Model, Opus 5.5, Amid Safety Debate
What to Know About Recent A.I. Hacks at Google, Anthropic, OpenAI and Meta
The A.I. Party House Where Networking Has a Dark Side

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This week, we break down why everyone is suddenly talking about A.I. safety, why frontier A.I. companies are asking for regulation and why the Trump administration is rejecting them. And then, to close out this chapter of “Hard Fork,” we answer all your questions about the show, tech and what’s happening next.

Additional Reading:
The A.I. Researcher Whose Rebellion Is Changing Everything
Top A.I. Leaders Call for Slowing Down A.I. Development
President Trump Is on the Line About an A.I. Slowdown
Mark Zuckerberg Takes Aim at Anthropic in Debate Over A.I. Slowdown
The ‘But China!’ Dilemma Driving the A.I. Race

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The “Hard Fork” team is away this week. But while we’re away, we’re bringing you a recent episode of “The Ezra Klein Show.”
In this episode, Ezra talks with the journalist Jasmine Sun about her recent reporting trip through the Midwest, where she explored how the data center backlash is playing out on the ground.
Ezra and Jasmine discuss the strange political coalitions that are coming together to oppose the A.I. infrastructure build out, and why people don’t believe what they’re being told about it.

Guests:
Jasmine Sun, journalist and writer at jasmi.news

Additional Reading:
No Data Centers In My Backyard
A transcript and video of this episode can be found here.

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This week, we’re diving into two new reports about the OpenAI-Hugging Face hack. We discuss what’s new and how they fundamentally change our understanding of what happened. Then we’re joined by Ajeya Cotra, one of the investigators at METR, to discuss the rogue agents’ message board and chain-of-thought transcripts and how the world should respond.
Guests:
Ajeya Cotra, co-author of the METR and Redwood Research report on the OpenAI-Hugging Face hack.


Additional Reading:
Brief Independent Investigation of Agents’ Behavior, Reasoning and Collaboration in the OpenAI / Hugging Face Hacking Incident
The Hugging Face Attack Surprised Me
The Hugging Face Incident and the Road Ahead
Nvidia Buys Hugging Face in $12.9 Billion Deal

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