RiskReversal Pod

Dan Nathan and Guy Adami discuss a volatile Friday session after a hotter-than-expected CPI, with software making multi-year lows while semiconductors push to highs, raising the idea that “something’s gotta give.” They point to Microsoft’s sharp drawdown as emblematic of software weakness and debate whether capitulation is near as earnings approach, while semis rally on incremental AI hardware headlines like Broadcom’s TPU-related deal with Google and Anthropic. They consider a 2026 “trade” of bottom-fishing battered software and fading crowded semis, flagging Intel’s rich valuation and Qualcomm’s lagging performance despite an edge-AI/inference narrative. They also note security stocks selling off despite rising AI-driven vulnerability concerns, warn that any hyperscaler CapEx pullback could hit semis hard, and preview bank earnings amid mixed signals on consumer credit, deregulation/IPO optimism, and cyclical risk, alongside geopolitics affecting oil and Taiwan.

Articles Mentioned

Why the ‘SaaSpocalypse’ doomsayers are wrong (FT)

Anthropic Model Scare Sparks Urgent Bessent, Powell Warning to Bank CEOs (Bloomberg)

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Guy Adami welcomes Liz Ann Sonders, Chief Investment Strategist at Charles Schwab, for a wide-ranging conversation on the state of modern markets. From the casino-like trading environment that has taken hold in recent weeks, to the deeper cultural forces driving younger investors toward speculation, Liz Ann brings clarity and perspective to some of the most pressing questions in finance today. They also explore behavioral biases, the value of staying disciplined through volatility, and what financial media should be saying but isn't.

Show Notes

Gambler's Blues: Betting Isn't Investing (Schwab.com)

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Dan Nathan and Gene Munster of Deepwater Asset Management discuss tech stocks heading into Q1 earnings, focusing on why Google and Broadcom outperformed on news of an Anthropic compute deal using Google TPUs and Broadcom, which they view as validating accelerating AI demand. They explore investor anxiety around AI hardware multiples and hyperscaler CapEx, noting street expectations for calendar 2027 spending growth and how that affects Nvidia and Broadcom sentiment, while arguing AI remains early despite massive costs. Munster outlines Deepwater’s view that premium “high-end” tokens may not commoditize as quickly as costs fall, citing their machine-driven Intelligent Alpha (GPT) ETF. They explain why they don’t own Microsoft, pointing to seat-growth concerns and disappointment with Copilot, and discuss Apple’s need for an AI narrative shift, including privacy-focused personalized AI. Munster previews his SpaceX views, saying it doesn’t need to go public but IPOs can broaden access and lower capital costs, and they consider whether a SpaceX listing impacts Tesla positioning.

Show Notes

Read Ben Thompson's Stratechery

OpenAI CEO and CFO Diverge on IPO Timing (The Information)

Gene's Piece on SpaceX (X)

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The IPO floodgates are opening — and AI is driving the wave.

Dan Nathan sits down with CNBC anchor and tech columnist Deirdre Bosa to break down the biggest stories in tech right now: SpaceX's confidential IPO filing, the Anthropic vs. OpenAI battle for investor dollars, Apple's strange standoff with the vibe coding generation, and why the AI trade has been a dud in public markets even as private valuations soar.

Then, Dan talks with Michael Manapat, Co-Founder and CEO of Rowspace — the AI-native financial data platform that just raised $50M in a Sequoia-led round. Michael breaks down why private equity and private credit firms can't afford to sit on the sidelines anymore, how Rowspace is deploying agents across every layer of their business, and what it really means to be "AI-native" in 2026.

Two conversations. One throughline: the money is moving, the window is open, and the firms that don't adapt are already behind.

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Danny Moses returns to the Risk Reversal Podcast with a stark warning: the tools that bailed us out in 2008 and COVID won't work this time. With U.S. debt surging from $35.5T to $39T in just 18 months, Danny explains why the Fed is boxed in, why small businesses are drowning in economic scar tissue, and why crude oil hitting 4-year highs while stocks shrug should have everyone paying attention. Plus — his one genuinely bullish conviction play in a market that's making optimism very hard to find.

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