RiskReversal Pod

Dan Nathan and Guy Adami open by focusing on heightened volatility in the NASDAQ and semiconductors after the SOXX hit an all-time high then fell 7%, alongside a 10% overnight drop in South Korea’s KOSPI, raising concerns about a global snowball effect. They argue widening volatility bands, “meme stock” dynamics in names like Intel, heavy AI-related capital raising, higher rates, and data-center build push-outs could signal a market high, while the consumer shows strain in retailer and restaurant commentary. They preview Micron earnings, noting extreme implied moves, massive stock swings, and skepticism that “dirt cheap” valuation offsets cyclicality, with high-bandwidth memory now central to the AI trade.

After the break, Dan Nathan hosts Gutter Capital co-founders Dan Teran and James Getinger to discuss the firm’s $75 million Fund III and the second iteration of its New York City accelerator, Elbow Grease. They explain Gutter’s origins from 110+ angel investments, a concentrated portfolio strategy, and a highly hands-on operating model focused on recruiting and day-to-day company building. Teran recounts founding and selling Managed by Q to WeWork and how those experiences shaped Gutter’s approach, while Getinger shares his decade as a profitable professional gambler and how that informed his quantitative and operational investing style. They argue venture has become increasingly consensus-driven, with rising seed valuations and capital concentrated in a few mega-funds, making early fundraising harder for nontraditional founders. Gutter emphasizes earlier-stage bets, community and mentorship on Canal Street, and investing in AI-enabled application-layer companies without needing to price frontier-model valuations.

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In New York, pizza is not just food - it’s part of the city’s DNA. And that story runs deep in Brooklyn where working class immigrant neighborhoods helped shape the pizza we know today. Grimaldi’s, sitting in the shadows of the Brooklyn Bridge, serves authentic, coal-fired brick oven pizza, sought out by tourists, locals and celebs like Ilir Sela, the founder and CEO of Slice. 

As an Albanian raised in Staten Island, pizza was Ilir’s destiny. In this episode, we’re sharing a pie with this founder who transformed mom & pop shops around the country and today enjoys the largest network of independent pizzerias in America. 

Timecodes 

00:00 “I Bought a Bentley With My First Profits”

00:32 Meet the Founder of Slice

03:20 The Albanian Connection to Pizza

05:30 Is Cheese a Topping?

06:23 Why Domino's Is a Great Business

09:30 The Problem Slice Was Built to Solve

14:00 Building a Business-in-a-Box for Pizzerias

19:28 The Moment He Knew Slice Would Work

20:47 From a Two-Bedroom Apartment to a Tech Company

22:30 The Secret to Entrepreneurial Success
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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

Dan Nathan and Guy Adami host a special Risk Reversal episode with guest Danny Moses to discuss the latest Fed meeting under Kevin Warsh, emphasizing peak hawkish messaging, reduced forward guidance (including questioning the dot plot), and the market’s feedback loop. They debate surging volatility and extreme AI/semiconductor valuations, highlighting Intel’s sharp rally on customer speculation and concerns about narrative-driven pricing, correlation risk, and potential CapEx pullbacks, with Micron’s upcoming earnings as a key test. The group also covers gold’s pullback, favoring gold miners like AEM, and argues energy could rebound despite recent weakness. They note consumer strain using Kroger’s warnings on rising costs and promotional shopping, alongside elevated delinquencies and credit card debt.

After the break, Dan speaks with CNBC’s Deirdre Bosa about SpaceX’s IPO, “vibe investing,” xAI’s compute strategy, the Cursor acquisition, AI token-cost pressures, and how export controls may accelerate adoption of Chinese open-source models like DeepSeek.

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Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

Is the AI trade a bubble? Imran Khan — founder of Proem Asset Management, former Snap executive, and the banker behind the Alibaba and Mercado Libre IPOs — isn't convinced. Dan Nathan sits down with Imran to pressure-test the bear case, from Nvidia's below-market multiple to the cyclical-vs-secular debate in memory, and to dig into why a big chunk of SpaceX's $2.5T valuation may not be a space story at all.

Topics Covered

Why hyperscalers underperform during heavy CapEx cycles — and why that's historically the best time to buy

Distribution vs. technology: how Gemini won while arguably being the inferior model, and why Grok couldn't

Meta's setup — cheap on earnings, not cheap on free cash flow — and the Zuckerberg "big swing" risk

Nvidia at a $5T market cap: the $20B debt raise, buybacks, and the customers-are-competitors problem

Micron and high-bandwidth memory sold out into 2027, and the cyclical-vs-secular question that decides the stock

The "bottleneck trade" everyone's chasing — and why earnings durability is the thing to watch

Energy constraints, data center delays, and the long-term demand picture

Imran's contrarian case that AI won't create structural unemployment

SpaceX's valuation decoded: rocket launch, Starlink, and the xAI cloud ramp

What OpenAI and Anthropic coming to market could mean for the AI trade

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Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

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Dan Nathan welcomes Current co-founders Stuart Sopp and CTO Trevor Marshall to discuss Current’s business momentum, the fintech landscape, and the evolving AI build-out. Sopp announces an $80 million Series E at a $1.5 billion valuation led by Spring Coast, noting Current’s profitability, deepened partnerships with Cross River and General Catalyst’s customer value fund, and over 70% growth for three consecutive years. Marshall describes Current’s compounding product strategy around combining banking and liquidity, and how disciplined infrastructure cost controls shape their AI approach, including customer-facing personalization and potential use of lower-cost or self-hosted models. The group debates token pricing deflation, open-source models, hyperscaler distribution advantages (especially Google/Vertex), SaaS displacement, and macro factors affecting consumers, concluding fintech winners are emerging and public-market interest may return via IPOs or M&A.

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.