Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner

Selling feels hard when you think your job is to convince people. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Myron Golden, sales expert, business coach, and stage speaker known for helping entrepreneurs produce multi million dollar results, to talk about why persuasion and convincing are not the same thing. Myron shares how he went 18 months without making a single sale before learning how identity, belief systems, and service change everything in the sales process. They talk about why objections are usually created before they are ever spoken, how to become findable to buyers who already want what you offer, the four types of buyers that determine your income ceiling, and why money becomes the byproduct once mastery becomes the focus. If you want selling to feel natural instead of forced, this conversation will change the way you see it.
 
Chapters:
(00:00) Introduction
(00:48) Myron's Entry Into Sales And Early Struggles
(03:02) Why Network Marketing Fails To Teach Selling
(07:56) Mindset + Skillset + Toolset Framework
(12:10) Transitioning Into Selling From Stage
(19:00) The $1.2M In One Hour Client Story
(21:06) The Four Types Of Buyers Explained
(30:03) Preventing Objections Before They Form
(36:27) Becoming Findable To Ready Buyers
 
Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755
Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/
Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/
Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : https://7q.ai/waitlist
The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠
Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠
 
Connect with Jeremy Miner
YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@jeremyminer⁠
Instagram:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠
LinkedIn:⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠
Facebook:⁠ https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52⁠
 
Connect with Myron
Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/themyrongolden/ ⁠
Website: ⁠https://myrongolden.com/ ⁠
YouTube:⁠https://www.youtube.com/@MyronGolden ⁠
TikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@myrongoldenofficial ⁠

Most founders think success comes from having the right idea. Yash Daftary learned early that it comes from knowing how to sell, persuade, and build trust at scale. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Yash Daftary, founder of FanBasis, a digital commerce platform powering creators, entrepreneurs, and online businesses selling products, services, and memberships worldwide. Yash breaks down why his company pivoted away from celebrity-driven fan experiences, what he learned from watching real operators outperform big names, and why payment systems and customer behavior reveal the true quality of a business. You'll hear Yash's perspective on why sales is the most important skill a founder can develop, how experience and repetition sharpen judgment, and what it takes to build something that lasts beyond short-term wins. This episode is for entrepreneurs who want to build a real businesses in the modern digital economy.
 
Chapters:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:44) What FanBasis Actually Is and Why It Scales
(03:56) Why Celebrity Models Failed and Digital Products Won
(06:03) Growing Up Entrepreneurial and Learning Through Experience
(09:22) Scaling Problems, Product Quality, and Real Metrics That Matter
(14:17) Why Sales and Persuasion Are the Most Important Skills
(20:09) The Trust Collapse, Rising Ad Costs, and What Wins Now
(25:10) The Amazon for the Internet Economy Vision
(27:03) Legacy, Fulfillment, and Why Goalposts Keep Moving
 
Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: ⁠+1-480-481-6755⁠
 
Join the 7th Level University: ⁠https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/⁠
 
Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : ⁠https://7q.ai/waitlist⁠
 
The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠
 
Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠
 
Book a call with my team: ⁠https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠
 
Connect with Jeremy Miner
YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer⁠
Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠
LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠
Facebook:⁠ https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52⁠
 
Connect with Yash
Instagram:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/yashdaftary/?hl=en ⁠
Fan Basis Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/fanbasis/?hl=en ⁠
X: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/ydaftary/ ⁠
Linkedin: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ydaftary ⁠
Website: ⁠https://www.fanbasis.com/

Most people get told "no" and spiral. Giuliano Massarelli gets told "no" and turns it into content, attention, and sales. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Giuliano Massarelli, known as The Wolf of Insurance, to break down how he sells life insurance through his DMs, why he posts at extreme volume to stay omnipresent, and how he built momentum fast by treating selling like a skills game. They talk tonality, verbal pacing, using energy to control emotional states, and the simple mirror and smile habit that changes how you sound on the phone. If you want to build a personal brand that becomes a real pipeline, and learn how to stay confident through rejection, this episode is the playbook.
 
Chapters: 
(00:00) Introduction 
(01:33) How an 18 Year Old Got Into Sales Fast
(04:01) The Content Strategy That Took Off. Rejection Then Dance Then Post
(05:23) Omnipresence. Posting 20 to 30 Times a Day to Own a Niche
(07:21) Tonality and Verbal Pacing. Where He Learned It
(09:59) Selling Is Something You Do For People. Protecting Families
(24:39) The Mirror and Smile Method. Being "On Stage" in Every Call
Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755
Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/
Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : https://7q.ai/waitlist
The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org
Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112
Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/
Connect with Jeremy Miner
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52
Connect with Juliano 
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julianomass
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliano-massarelli-818b8534b/ 
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Wolfofinsurance

Revenue looks impressive. Profit is what keeps you in the game. If your business only runs when you are in the building, you are not scaling, you are surviving. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Tommy Mello, CEO of A1 Garage Door Service, a home service operator who has scaled to 700 employees across 20 states and is pushing toward $220M in revenue. Tommy breaks down the real difference between chasing growth and building a profitable company with systems, leadership, and the right people in the right seats. You will learn why profit beats revenue, how to stop being the bottleneck, and what it actually takes to scale through delegation and incentives that keep top talent aligned. This is for entrepreneurs and operators who want a business that performs consistently, builds real culture, and grows without burning out the founder. If you are serious about building a company that lasts, this conversation is for you
 
Chapters:
(00:00) Introduction
(03:42) The Business Partner Breakup That Changed Everything
(08:33) The 3 Biggest Mistakes Tommy Made Scaling to $220M
(15:38) The Mindset It Takes To Actually Build Something
(19:47) Why Tommy Lived In An 800 sq ft Apartment While Owning 7 Houses
(28:10) Why Selling Is The Most Important Skill For Founders
(32:14) Systems: The Only Thing That Let Tommy Scale Past Himself
(38:26) Why Your Net Worth Is Your Network (And How To Build It)
(44:56) Be Careful Who You Let Train You
(48:19) The 3 Things Tommy Did To Build Unbreakable Culture
 
Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: ⁠+1-480-481-6755⁠
 
Join the 7th Level University: ⁠https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/⁠
 
Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : ⁠https://7q.ai/waitlist⁠
 
Join the 7th Level Sales Team: ⁠https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers.com/closer-7th-level⁠
 
The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠
 
Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠
 
Book a call with my team: ⁠https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠
 
Connect with Jeremy Miner
YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer⁠
Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠
LinkedIn:⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠
Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52⁠
 
Connect with Tommy
Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/officialtommymello/ ⁠
Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/tommy.mello1/ ⁠
Youtube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@officialtommymello ⁠
Personal Website: ⁠https://www.tommymello.com/ ⁠
Business Website: ⁠https://a1garage.com/ ⁠

Most people believe that getting better skills, habits, or information is what leads to growth, but that belief is exactly why so many stay stuck at average. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Michael Bernoff, bestselling author of Average Sucks and an expert in human behavior, communication, and influence.Michael breaks down why identity and language, not effort, are what drive long-term results, how internal mental frames quietly control decisions, and why people often live the life they have instead of the life they want. This conversation explores how certainty is created, why congruence matters more than tactics, and how learning to reframe your thinking changes outcomes in business, leadership, relationships, and life.If you want to stop hovering below your potential and start operating at your next level, this episode will fundamentally change how you see yourself and how others respond to you.
 
Chapters:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:22) Why Most People Stay Stuck At "Almost"
(03:29) Identity vs. Wanting More
(05:02) Congruence: Why Skill Without Identity Fails
(08:01) Influence Starts With How You See Yourself
(12:30) Frames, Language, and Decision-Making
(16:43) Certainty, Emotion, and Human Behavior
(30:19) Reframing Reality to Create Better Outcomes
 
Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly:⁠ +1-480-481-6755⁠
 
Join the 7th Level University: ⁠https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/⁠
 
Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : ⁠https://7q.ai/waitlist⁠
 
Join the 7th Level Sales Team: ⁠https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers.com/closer-7th-level⁠
 
The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠
 
Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠
 
Book a call with my team:⁠ https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠
 
Connect with Jeremy Miner
YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer⁠
Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠
LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠
Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52⁠
 
Listen to the Next Level Podcast
Apple: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/si/podcast/next-level-podcast-with-jeremy-miner/id1534365100⁠
Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2kNDyUR7fz9SqBr9iGwfwV⁠
 
Connect with Michael
Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/michael_bernoff/?hl=en⁠
Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/michaelbernoff/ ⁠
Youtube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/user/bernoff ⁠
Website: ⁠https://michaelbernoff.com/⁠