Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Web Development, Neat

• The Myth of Perfect Code w/ Marc Backes

  This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Marc Backes about Vue vs. React, work-life balance, and the realities of messy codebases. They also sip an Evan Williams Single Barrel, debate inbox zero, and discuss Marc’s adventures in coffee roasting and pilot training.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(01:45) - Whiskey review and rating: Evan Williams Single Barrel(09:03) - Hot Take: Inferred types vs explicit types(10:04) - Hot Take: Tailwind vs vanilla CSS(10:59) - Hot Take: Git Rebase vs Git Merge(11:27) - Nested ternaries?(15:58) - Real code vs ideal code(21:43) - Why work/life balance matters(30:28) - Why Marc chose Vue over React(31:19) - Ryan Reynolds speaking at Post/Con(32:40) - Render Atlanta and upcoming conferences(33:48) - Marc's connection to Mexico(34:54) - Discussing different foods(37:09) - Marc's inbox zero strategy(40:26) - Learning to fly(44:06) - Roasting coffee as a hobby(46:13) - Personal branding and standing out(51:19) - PlugsLinksEvan Williams Single Barrel: https://evanwilliams.com/single-barrelVue: https://vuejs.org/Nuxt: https://nuxt.com/Norlan: https://norlanglass.com/Nintendo: https://www.nintendo.com/Switch 2: https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/Double Double Oaked Woodford: https://www.woodfordreserve.com/whiskey/double-double-oaked/Typescript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/React: https://react.dev/jQuery: https://jquery.com/Ryan Reynolds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_ReynoldsPost Con: https://postcon.postman.com/Aviation Gin: https://www.aviationgin.com/Mint Mobile: https://www.mintmobile.com/Render Conf: https://www.renderatl.com/Taco Bell: https://www.tacobell.com/Marc Backes - Achieving Inbox Zero: https://marc.dev/blog/inbox-zeroSuperhuman: https://superhuman.com/Vim: https://www.vim.org/Vue: https://vuejs.org/Vite: https://vite.dev/Terminal Coffee: https://www.terminal.shop/Dax: https://x.com/thdxr/Jack Daniel's: https://www.jackdaniels.com/Kelly Vaughn: https://x.com/kvllyConnect with MarcWebsite: https://marc.dev/X / Twitter: https://x.com/themarcbaConnect with Chuck and RobbieRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rdSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• Should You Learn Tailwind Before CSS? w/ Bree Hall

  This week, live from React Miami, Chuck, and special guest co-host Aaron Francis, talk with Bree Hall about React styling strategies, Tailwind CSS, and whether you should learn fundamentals before frameworks (spoiler: it depends). They explore the evolution of Next.js, the importance of developer momentum, and how to break into tech in today’s landscape.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(02:11) - Rum rating and review: Roble Viejo Extra Anejo 8yrs(07:25) - Hot Take: Tailwind vs vanilla CSS(12:54) - Bree's React Miami talk: Styles & SASSy(15:16) - Has Tailwind made CSS too easy?(17:47) - Hot Take: Why you don't need to learn CSS or PHP before jumping into Tailwind or Laravel(23:34) - Bree's journey into tech(26:49) - The strengths and weaknesses of React(27:29) - Where does React end and Next.js begin?(31:24) - Why Astro is great(33:04) - Using the tools that work for you(36:38) - Life at HubSpot(39:45) - Bree's favorite food spots(44:48) - Theme parks and tech(47:10) - Parenting in the internet age(52:06) - If not in tech, what would Bree do instead?(53:52) - PlugsLinksRoble Viejo Extra Anejo 8yrs: https://ronroble.com/nuestros-rones/extra-anejo/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Kent C. Dodds: https://kentcdodds.com/Bacardi: https://www.bacardi.com/Flor De Cana 18: https://www.flordecana.com/Captain Morgan: https://www.captainmorgan.com/Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/Emotion: https://emotion.sh/Vanilla Extract: https://vanilla-extract.style/SQLite: https://www.sqlite.org/Bootstrap: https://getbootstrap.com/React: https://react.dev/Laravel: https://laravel.com/jQuery: https://jquery.com/Photoshop: https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopKubernetes: https://kubernetes.io/Angular: https://angular.dev/Typescript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/Astro: https://astro.build/Vite: https://vite.dev/Ember: https://emberjs.com/Neon: https://neon.tech/Web Dev Challenge: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M4 hours to build an e-commerce app — Web Dev Challenge S1E9: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICpQQxD8vc4Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/HubSpot: https://hubspot.comGitHub: https://github.comIchi Koroshi Ramen: https://www.instagram.com/ichikoroshi/Disney World: https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/Lego: https://lego.comBoston Dynamics: https://bostondynamics.com/Universal: https://www.universalorlando.com/Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/Screencasting.com: https://screencasting.comConnect with BreeWebsite: https://www.bytesofbree.com/X / Twitter: https://x.com/bytesofbreeConnect with Chuck and RobbieRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rdSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• Static, Dynamic, Generative: What’s Next for the Web? w/ Guillermo Rauch

  This week, Chuck and special guest co-host Aaron Francis talk with Guillermo Rauch live from React Miami. From early days at Zeit to founding Vercel and launching Next.js, Guillermo shares stories of scaling infrastructure, creating developer-centric products, and navigating startup challenges. They dive into how AI is transforming the web, why thoughtful product expansion matters, and the frameworks guiding Vercel’s future.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(02:54) - Rum review and rating: Fleur de Caña 18(04:31) - Every company is now a tech company(11:35) - The early days from Zeit to Vercel(19:03) - Vercel's approach to cybersecurity(23:53) - How Vercel decides what features and products to pursue(29:32) - Wins, misses, and wild ideas(45:51) - What drives Guillermo today(50:00) - Growing up in Argentina(52:05) - Boca or River?(54:21) - Guillermo’s surprising Laravel take(01:02:32) - If not tech, what would Guillermo do instead?(01:06:50) - PlugsLinksFleur de Caña 18: https://www.flordecana.com/Vercel: https://vercel.com/Socket: https://socket.io/Next.js: http://nextjs.org/Django: https://www.djangoproject.com/React: https://react.dev/WordPress: https://wordpress.orgKubernetes: https://kubernetes.io/v0: https://v0.dev/Twilio: https://www.twilio.com/Docusign: https://www.docusign.com/Jeff Bezos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_BezosUber: https://www.uber.com/Airbnb: https://www.airbnb.com/Washio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washio_(company)The Jetsons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_JetsonsLars Grammel: https://x.com/lgrammelJared Palmer: https://x.com/jaredpalmerAI SDK: https://ai-sdk.dev/Pokemon: https://www.pokemon.com/Game Boy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_BoyBoca Juniors: https://www.bocajuniors.com.ar/River Plate: https://www.cariverplate.com.ar/Taylor Otwell: https://x.com/taylorotwellLaravel: https://laravel.com/Codex CLI: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/11096431-openai-codex-cli-getting-startedWaymo: https://waymo.com/Node: https://nodejs.org/Bun: https://bun.sh/Deno: https://deno.com/Dax: https://x.com/thdxr/Balseiro Institute: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balseiro_InstituteGrand Theft Auto: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_AutoCall of Duty: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_DutyConnect with GuillermoWebsite: https://rauchg.com/X / Twitter: https://x.com/rauchgConnect with Chuck and RobbieRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rdSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• Why You Can’t Skip the Fundamentals w/ Henri Helvetica

  This week, Chuck and special guest co-host Aaron Francis talk with Henri Helvetica live from React Miami. They explore the evolving challenges of web performance, why genuine research skills still matter in an AI-driven world, and how developers can stay curious and resilient in a fast-moving industry. Henri shares insights from his React Miami talk, his passion for performance advocacy, and why literacy—both digital and physical—matters more than ever.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(00:54) - Meet Henri Helvetica(05:36) - Rum review and rating: Rhum Barbancourt 15(12:34) - Why the best JS framework is the one you like(14:38) - What makes a good rum?(19:33) - Have performance and accessibility been left behind?(22:32) - Where Henri’s working now—and how he’s pushing for better performance(26:47) - Hot Take: Why modern dev learning paths are hurting growth(35:43) - Henri’s advice for junior devs who want to master performance(39:05) - How to use AI without sabotaging your future learning(43:36) - Henri's passion for running and exercise(52:19) - Building and growing Henri's dev running community(54:27) - If not tech, what would Henri do instead?(55:26) - PlugsLinksRhum Barbancourt 15: https://barbancourt.com/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Remix: https://remix.run/Ryan Florence: https://x.com/ryanflorenceBuffalo Trace: https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/Pappy Van Winkle: https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/van-winkle.htmlMaker's Mark: https://www.makersmark.com/Weller: https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller.htmlEmber: https://emberjs.com/James Earl Jones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Earl_JonesAppleton Estate: https://appletonestate.com/Zacapa 23: https://www.zacaparum.com/Guillermo Rauch: https://x.com/rauchgChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/Web.dev: https://web.dev/Performance.now(): https://perfnow.nl/Couch to 5k: https://c25k.com/Connect with HenriX / Twitter: https://x.com/henrihelveticaConnect with Chuck and RobbieRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rdSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• Are Frameworks Still Worth the Tradeoffs? w/ Adam Rackis

  This week, Chuck talks with Adam Rackis live from React Miami. Along with special guest-host Aaron Francis, they dig into React Server Components, the quirks of modern JavaScript frameworks, and why TanStack might be the future. Sipping an Appleton Estate Rum, they swap hot takes, get candid about developer trends, tech philosophies, and share some unexpected guilty pleasures.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(02:37) - Rum tasting and review: Appleton Estate(11:27) - Hot Take: Why Adam is cooling off on React Server Components(14:56) - What makes TanStack the most exciting tool in frontend?(16:52) - Are we still chasing SSR for the right reasons?(21:26) - Comparing frameworks: Laravel, Next.js, Redwood & more(24:34) - Should you pay for Auth or build it yourself?(25:13) - Why does the JS community resist “batteries-included” frameworks?(27:54) - A look at Adam’s React Miami talk: From PHP to RSC(30:45) - Hot Take: classes vs hooks(33:31) - Adam’s military background(35:08) - Milestones: Spotify, marriage, and careers(36:56) - Has Disney ruined Star Wars?(38:17) - Guilty pleasures: Jackass, Fast & Furious, and more(43:29) - If not tech, what would Adam do instead?(44:05) - PlugsLinksAppleton Estate Rum: https://appletonestate.com/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Spotify: https://spotify.com/Riot Games: https://www.riotgames.com/Ron Zacapa 23: https://www.zacaparum.com/Laravel: https://laravel.com/Postgres: https://www.postgresql.org/Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/Disney: https://www.disney.com/Vercel: https://vercel.com/Next.js: https://nextjs.org/Django: https://www.djangoproject.com/Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/TanStack: https://tanstack.com/Remix: https://remix.run/Svelte: https://svelte.dev/HTMX: https://htmx.org/Vue: https://vuejs.org/Dan Abramov: https://github.com/gaearonInertia: https://inertiajs.com/Sam Selikoff: https://x.com/samselikoffRyan Florence: https://x.com/ryanflorenceBig Sky Dev Con: https://bigskydevcon.com/Drizzle: https://orm.drizzle.team/RedwoodJS: https://redwoodjs.com/Tom Preston-Werner: https://x.com/mojomboClerk: https://clerk.com/Auth0: https://auth0.com/NextAuth.js: https://next-auth.js.org/Better-Auth: https://www.better-auth.com/OpenAuth: https://openauth.js.org/Prisma: https://www.prisma.io/WorkOS: https://workos.com/Ember: https://emberjs.com/Backbonejs: https://backbonejs.org/Air Force Academy: https://www.usafa.edu/Star Wars: https://www.starwars.com/The Mandalorian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_MandalorianFast & Furious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_%26_FuriousJackass: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackass_(franchise)Laravel Cloud: https://cloud.laravel.com/TanStack Router: https://tanstack.com/router/latestScreencasting.com: https://screencasting.com/Connect with AdamWebsite: https://adamrackis.dev/X / Twitter: https://x.com/AdamRackisConnect with Chuck and RobbieRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rdSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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