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What does Christian political witness look like in a plural, polarized democracy and should Christians ever aim for a “Christian nation”?
In this episode of Premier Unbelievable?, John Nelson hosts a frank and high-stakes conversation on Christian nationalism, secularism, and the future of liberal democracy.
Doug Wilson, pastor of Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho, argues that nations are moral agents accountable to God, and defends a vision he calls “theocratic libertarianism”—limited government, but explicitly Christian moral foundations.
Dr. Michael Bird, biblical scholar and Anglican priest, agrees politics is never neutral—but warns that certain models of Christian nationalism risk disenfranchising minorities, repeating Europe’s religious conflicts, and undermining the freedom required for genuine faith.
From immigration and pluralism to abortion, marriage, and religious liberty, this conversation asks:
Can secularism actually protect Christian society?Who gets full civic rights in a “Christian republic”?Is Christian nationalism a renewal of moral order—or a road to coercion?How should Jesus’ model of leadership reshape political ambition?Join us as we dive into one of the most contested questions in public Christianity today.

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From the Archives: How should Christians understand the Adam & Eve story in Genesis? Is it scientifically plausible that humanity can be traced back to a first human couple? What does it mean for the concept of ‘Original Sin’?
These and more questions are discussed by Christian philosopher William Lane Craig, author of the new book ‘In Quest of the Historical Adam’, and computational biologist Joshua Swamidass, author of ‘The Genealogical Adam & Eve’.
At the end of the show, Ruth Jackson talks to Tim Moyler about the evangelistic resource ‘Living & Telling’.

First Aired: 13 August 2021

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Daily Wire co-founder Jeremy Boreing joins John Nelson for a wide-ranging conversation about media, power and faith in a post-Christian West. Boreing describes how Hollywood sharpened his convictions and why The Daily Wire was designed as a digital counterweight to legacy media. They unpack how culture shapes belief beneath the level of argument, and why entertainment can move public morality faster than politics. Boreing addresses the seductions of influence, the “grift” economy, and the danger of Christianity being reduced to a tribal marker in the culture wars. The discussion ranges from Trump and evangelicalism to conspiracy thinking, antisemitism, and the rise of illiberal “Christ is King” rhetoric. Finally, Boreing explains why he stepped back from leadership and reveals his passion project: Rise of the Merlin an ambitious adaptation of Lawhead’s Pendragon Cycle

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What if the biggest debates about marriage, gender, and family have been framed around the wrong people?

In this eye-opening conversation, Luke Martin is joined by Katy Faust, Founder and President of Them Before Us, a global movement arguing that children not adults should be at the centre of family policy and cultural change. Katy challenges some of the most deeply held assumptions of modern life, asking what happens when adult fulfilment is prioritised over the rights and needs of the young.

The show explores the differences between men and women, why mothers and fathers matter in distinct ways, and how feminism, divorce, and church leadership shape children’s lives. Luke and Katy do not shy away here from today’s most controversial issues - gay marriage, surrogacy, IVF, sperm and egg donation, and the claim that “love makes a family.” Drawing on natural law, social science, and lived experience, Katy makes a powerful case that marriage and family are first matters of justice for children. Her book Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children’s Rights Movement (Post Hill Press, 2021), co-authored with Stacy Manning, expands this argument in depth.
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Premier Unbelievable host John Nelson gathers a lively roundtable to ask a timely question: what’s the current state of Christian apologetics—and where should it go next? Scientist and historian of science Sam McKee (University of Reading / Manchester Metropolitan) argues that apologetics often lags decades behind today’s life sciences, too easily dominated by creationist “marketing machines”, and too quick to platform non-experts as authorities.
Joining him are Northern Irish apologist and civil servant Gareth Black, OCCA speaker and war studies postgraduate Sara Stevenson, and US-based YouTuber Mike Jones (Inspiring Philosophy). Together they wrestle with expertise, overreach, and epistemic humility—alongside the promise of friendship, local church discipleship, and better science communication.
Is the “conflict” narrative between science and faith finally fading? And what might a more relational, Bible-shaped apologetics look like in 2026?

0:00 – Apologetics After New Atheism
0:46 – Meet the Panel (Science + Faith)
4:06 – Science Problem in Christian Apologetics
5:12 – Genetics & Biology Revolution (CRISPR, AlphaFold)
7:43 – Creationism vs Science: Why It Hurts Faith
8:33 – Why Students Leave Church (Science vs Faith)
9:44 – Faraday Institute: Elite Christian Scientists
11:10 – Stop Platforming Non-Experts
13:16 – Genesis 1: Literalism vs Context
15:47 – Science vs Religion “War” Myth
18:45 – Social Media Apologetics: Pros & Cons
21:18 – Flat Earth Theology & Conspiracy Drift
28:02 – C.S. Lewis: “Christianity Latent”
31:06 – Apologetics Echo Chamber (Same Arguments)
35:41 – Elite Apologists vs Everyday Christians
39:49 – Christianity Built Civilization (Sociology)
46:40 – Friendship Model Apologetics (Community)
52:54 – Debates, Revival & Future Strategy


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