Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever sits down with Sean DeMars to talk about his book Redemption Song, a short and approachable primer on congregational singing. Using Moses' song in Exodus 15 as a lens, they explore why God's people sing, how the regulative principle guides our worship (and why it needn't be scary or restrictive), and why singing is part of the word ministry of the church that pastors, not just music leaders, are accountable for.

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan talks with Ryan Robertson about his new book (co-authored with Matt Bennett), The Path to Being a Missionary. Together they unpack why "I'm called" is better understood as aspiration tested by a local church, and why Ryan so often tells eager candidates to wait.

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan talks to Mark and Connie Dever, a candid vulnerable conversation about being a pastor's wife.

In this special live episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman sits down with hymn writer, worship professor, and pastor Matt Boswell to talk about the craft and calling of writing hymns for the church. They also explore what a hymn writer and a theologian each see, how Matt writes with specific suffering church members in mind, why singing is meant to be horizontal as well as vertical, and what to do if you don't like your church's music (spoiler: sing anyway).
Note: this episode was recorded live and has some audio issues throughout.

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever are joined by David Lawrence, pastor of Erbil Baptist Church, and Jeremy Barker of the Mustard Seed Foundation, to discuss gospel work in Kurdistan — the semi-autonomous Kurdish region of northern Iraq.