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In this episode of Click Beta, Matt Zeigler sits down with Cameron Dawson of NewEdge Wealth and Dave Nadig of ETF.com for a wide-ranging conversation on markets, macro data, positioning, tokenization, AI productivity, and the narratives driving investor behavior. The discussion dives into consensus forecasts, the K-shaped economy, international equity performance, dollar positioning, AI capex, and whether the biggest market moves are driven by fundamentals or liquidity shifts. Along the way, they explore tokenization in financial markets, stablecoins, Fed balance sheet dynamics, and how AI is quietly reshaping productivity for small businesses and individuals. This episode is a deep dive into stock market trends, economic data distortions, asset allocation shifts, and the structural forces shaping the investing landscape in 2026.
Main topics covered:
• Why consensus forecasts are average and why that creates risks for investors
• Cyclical reacceleration narrative versus liquidity-driven market rotation
• The K-shaped economy and distortions in US jobs data
• Healthcare hiring versus cyclical employment weakness
• AI capex spending and who actually benefits
• Energy, industrials, and staples outperformance versus tech concentration
• International equities versus US stocks and valuation percentiles
• US dollar positioning extremes and contrarian signals
• Positioning versus narrative and where market surprises hide
• Tokenization, decentralized finance, and DTCC proposals
• Stablecoins, collateral efficiency, and capital reuse in markets
• Fed balance sheet, leverage ratios, and financial system risk
• AI productivity gains in small and mid-sized businesses
• The future of work, automation, and economic dispersion
Timestamps:
00:00 Cameron on cyclical reacceleration and market expectations
03:00 Consensus forecasts and average return assumptions
06:00 K-shaped economy and distorted jobs data
10:00 AI capex and disconnect between perception and reality
12:30 Liquidity shifts and market rotation beyond mega caps
14:00 International equity valuations and performance gap
16:50 Dollar positioning and contrarian signals
18:20 Positioning versus narrative in stock performance
20:00 Tokenization and ETF market plumbing
22:00 Stablecoins and capital efficiency
24:00 Atomic settlement versus traditional clearing
27:00 Fed balance sheet and leverage ratio debate
30:00 Recessions, market resets, and social impact
39:00 Cultural distribution, media fragmentation, and market narratives
47:00 AI productivity, small business impact, and economic implications
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In this episode of The Opex Effect, Jack and Brent break down the growing impact of options markets on stocks, volatility, and sector rotation. While the major indexes appear calm, massive moves beneath the surface tell a very different story. From software stocks and AI disruption to gold, silver, bonds, and the Nasdaq, they analyze how dealer hedging flows, gamma positioning, implied volatility, and options expiration cycles may be shaping market behavior more than headlines suggest. If you want to understand why markets can feel wildly volatile yet go nowhere, and how options positioning can influence short term price action, this episode provides a deep dive into the mechanics driving today’s market environment.
Main Topics Covered
Why the market feels like the wildest calm market of all time

Massive single stock volatility versus muted index performance

Software stock weakness, AI disruption, and the so called SaaS apocalypse

The surge in options volume and the rise of zero DTE in major stocks

How dealer hedging, delta, gamma, and volatility flows impact equities

The historical tendency for markets to flip direction after options expiration

Realized volatility versus intraday volatility and what is being hidden

Beneath the surface rotation into value, small caps, energy, and defense

Gold and silver volatility spikes and what options volume signaled at the top

Rising demand for puts and what skew is telling us about downside risk

Correlation spikes, VIX behavior, and the risk of a volatility expansion

How positioning can create rapid market spasms in single stocks like Nvidia and Tesla

Why this environment may represent a staging area for a larger move

Timestamps
00:00 Violently going nowhere and hidden volatility
01:01 The wildest calm market of all time
04:00 Introduction to The Opex Effect and options driven flows
05:29 The growth of options trading and zero DTE impact
11:00 Dealer hedging, delta, and how options move stocks
13:42 Why options expiration can trigger regime changes
16:22 Intraday volatility versus close to close volatility
20:18 Extreme rotation beneath the surface
21:00 Measuring expiration size with the lobster claw rating
25:00 Single stock positioning and March expiration risk
27:35 Core one month correlation warning signals
33:00 Rising put demand and what skew reveals
36:45 Asset rotation in bonds, gold, bitcoin, and tech
43:06 Correlation spikes and crash risk setup
46:40 The quickening of volatility and single stock spasms

In this episode of Excess Returns, we sit down with Neil Howe, author of The Fourth Turning Is Here and co-creator of the Fourth Turning generational framework, along with Ben Hunt of Epsilon Theory, to discuss where we are in the current cycle and what it means for markets, inflation, AI, capital flows, and America’s long-term economic outlook. From the debasement trade and rising gold prices to global capital crowding out and the structural forces shaping productivity and growth, this conversation connects generational theory with real-world investing decisions. If you’re thinking about inflation, deficits, AI capital spending, global diversification, or how to position defensively and offensively in a shifting macro regime, this discussion provides a powerful framework for navigating what may be a historic transition period.
Topics Covered
The Fourth Turning framework and where we are in the current crisis cycle

Why inflation is not a problem but a policy solution in major crises

The collapse in US national savings and long-term deficit risks

Capital flows, the debasement trade, and the future of the US dollar

Gold, commodities, and real assets in a regime shift

Global diversification and opportunities outside the United States

AI capital spending, productivity gains, and the risk of overinvestment

Crowding out effects from government deficits and AI hyper scaling

Trust, geopolitics, and the long-term implications for global markets

Healthcare, demographics, and structural investment themes

Defensive and offensive positioning in a Fourth Turning environment

Timestamps
00:00 Inflation as a solution and the generational crisis framework
04:00 Explaining the Fourth Turning and historical crisis cycles
12:55 Narratives, generational archetypes, and market behavior
22:24 Is the Fourth Turning pessimistic or optimistic
34:00 Inflation, gold, and the debasement trade
40:00 Global capital flows and the reversal of US inflows
50:00 AI capital spending and the K shaped capital markets
55:09 Crowding out, deficits, and slow growth risks
01:02:23 Defensive and offensive investment positioning
01:09:31 Final thoughts on diversification, gold, and financials

In this episode of Excess Returns, we sit down with Pete Hecht of AQR to break down portable alpha, capital efficient portfolio construction, and how investors can combine equity beta with truly diversifying sources of alpha. We cover how portable alpha works in practice, how it solves the funding problem for alternative strategies, and why implementation details like leverage, liquidity, and financing costs matter more than most investors realize. If you’re interested in diversification, long short investing, managed futures, equity market neutral strategies, or improving total returns without giving up equity exposure, this discussion provides a practical and detailed framework.
Main Topics Covered
What portable alpha actually is and how it differs from traditional stock bond alternative portfolios

How portable alpha combines equity beta exposure with unconstrained long short alpha

The funding problem with alternatives and how portable alpha solves it

Turnkey implementation versus separating alpha managers and beta overlays

The role of equity market neutral, managed futures, and multi strategy approaches

Why private equity and private credit are poor candidates for portable alpha

Long short leverage versus long only leverage and how to think about risk

Target volatility, risk models, and stress testing leveraged portfolios

Financing costs in futures markets and how higher interest rates affect strategies

How to evaluate portable alpha using excess returns, tracking error, and tail risk

Tax aware implementation and after tax returns

Why mutual funds are not obsolete for active long short strategies

The importance of asking whether a view is already priced into valuations

Timestamps
00:00 Why you cannot eat a risk adjusted return
02:12 Defining portable alpha and the problem it solves
03:55 Portable alpha versus traditional balanced portfolios
06:54 The funding problem with diversifying alternatives
09:00 How portable alpha works in practice
13:05 What types of alpha strategies work best
16:35 Managed futures and crisis alpha
19:49 Simplicity versus complexity in implementation
21:46 Why private equity and private credit do not work in portable alpha
24:15 Understanding leverage and risk management
29:18 Target volatility and portfolio construction
34:52 Stress testing and lessons from COVID and 2022
35:01 Risks and financing costs of portable alpha
38:50 Interest rates and leveraged strategies
39:07 Identifying hidden beta and volatility laundering
46:08 Introducing AQR Fusion Funds
50:25 Evaluating performance versus the benchmark
53:17 Tax efficiency in long short mutual funds
57:29 Is your view already priced in

In this episode of Excess Returns, Kai Wu of Sparkline Capital returns to discuss his latest research on AI adoption, ROI, and what it all means for investors.
Building on his prior work on the AI CapEx boom, Kai tackles the trillion dollar question at the center of today’s market: Is AI generating real, measurable economic returns across the broader economy, or are we still in an infrastructure-driven bubble?
Using a systematic analysis of earnings calls, patent data, and adoption trends, Kai lays out a framework for identifying which companies are truly benefiting from artificial intelligence and how investors can position portfolios accordingly.
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Main topics covered:
Satya Nadella’s AI bubble framework and why broad economic diffusion matters

The AI adoption S-curve and where we are in the technology diffusion cycle

A new AI ROI taxonomy based on earnings call analysis and quantified economic gains

Real-world AI productivity, revenue, and cost-saving examples across industries

Infrastructure vs early adopters vs laggards and how companies were categorized

AI-driven outperformance and excess returns across different adopter groups

Valuation dispersion between AI infrastructure stocks and AI early adopters

The risk of overcapacity and lessons from railroads and the dot-com telecom boom

Competition among large language models and the durability of AI moats

S&P 500 exposure to AI infrastructure and hidden concentration risk

The case for AI early adopters as a middle ground between growth and value

Intangible value investing and the concept of AI yield

Timestamps:
00:00:00 The trillion dollar question and what “real ROI” means
00:03:19 Nadella’s bubble framework: diffusion vs a narrow CapEx trade
00:06:08 The classic tech diffusion S-curve and where AI is on it
00:32:25 Why infrastructure is being rewarded even if the ROI story is different
00:33:04 The key chart: adoption vs valuation shows “basically no relationship”
00:38:00 Why early adopters and laggards should separate
00:38:26 The “25% ROI” example and how it could show up later in fundamentals
00:39:03 Railroads and fiber: builders go bankrupt, users capture the value
00:39:45 Telecom index fell 95% and never recovered (dot-com bust parallel)
00:40:00 The application layer captures profits; infrastructure becomes a utility
00:41:00 The punchline: transformative tech, but builders can still be bad investments
00:42:57 Overcapacity question: where are we on the line?
00:43:17 The buildout: another $5 trillion of data centers “or whatever the number is”
00:44:00 If there’s no ROI, companies cancel orders
00:45:01 Moat and LLM competition discussion begins
00:49:00 The big one: adding infrastructure names gets the S&P to 46% AI infrastructure
00:50:00 “Alternative indices” swing you to laggard risk
00:51:00 The “false choice” and the “middle ground” framing (early adopters)