The Conversations That Saved Our Lives | We’re Talking Suicide Prevention
TW: This episode discusses suicide and mental health in detail.
In this week's episode for World Suicide Prevention Day, we’ve brought together some of the most powerful moments from past conversations on We Need To Talk - featuring Jordan Stephens, Ella Morgan, and DanTDM - who’ve all spoken bravely about their mental health journeys.
These are not just stories of pain, but of survival. Of reaching out. Of finding light in the darkest moments. By revisiting their words, we hope to break the silence around suicide and remind anyone struggling: you are not alone.
Together, they unpack the silence around suicide and why honest conversations matter more than ever
(00:00) Intro
(01:27) Jordan's Experience of Suicide and Suicidal Ideation
(07:28) Jordan's 'Break-Up' with His Mother
(14:06) Ella's Experience of Suicidal Ideation at 16
(17:00) Ella Coming Out as Trans to Her Mum
(20:12) Dan TDM's Experience Suicidal Ideation
(22:00) Telling His Wife How He Felt
(23:45) How Therapy Helped Dan
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Kerry Katona Part 2: I Went From £400K a Year to Bankrupt! Why I Had To Turn to ØnlyFans
Kerry Katona opens up about some of the most shocking and transformative moments of her life in the spotlight. From turbulent relationships and public scandals to finding love again, Kerry shares the truth behind the headlines.
In part 2 of her raw and unfiltered conversation, Kerry speaks candidly about the chaos of her marriages, her infamous appearance on This Morning, and the devastating impact of addiction on her family. She reflects on the abuse she endured in her relationship with George, the trauma of his passing, and how she rebuilt herself in the aftermath.
Kerry also reveals the reality of her financial struggles and why she turned to OnlyFans, before sharing the unexpected love story that unfolded on Celebs Go Dating with Paolo, and what it’s like navigating a relationship under the glare of the media.
Kerry shares:
◽ How her relationship with Mark began and ended in heartbreak
◽ The media’s betrayal and stories sold at her expense
◽ The home invasion that shook her family to its core
◽ The moment she realised she needed to end her addiction
◽ The painful truth of her marriage to George and his tragic passing
◽ Her experience of bankruptcy and finding new ways to survive
◽ How she found love again with Paolo on Celebs Go Dating despite the age gap
◽ Her hopes for the future and what’s next for her career
Kerry Katona, We Need To Talk, again!
This episode includes some difficult conversations. If you’re impacted, we recommend the support charities below:Survivor's Trust: https://g2ul0.app.link/yh0NrvNsvTb
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(00:00) Intro
(02:20) How Did Kerry's Relationship with Mark Begin?
(07:00) Stories Sold to the Papers About Kerry
(11:57) Kerry's Experience of Home Invasion
(16:52) Kerry's Infamous Appearance on This Morning
(27:36) Kerry's Wedding to Mark
(29:29) Kerry's Epiphany About Her Drug Taking and the End of Her Relationship with Mark
(35:00) Kerry's Difficult Conversation with Her Children About Her Public Image
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(41:22) How Kerry Entered into Her Relationship with George
(46:17) George's Abusive Behaviour During Their Marriage
(52:55) George's Psychotic Break
(57:31) George's Passing and How It Affected Kerry
(01:01:37) The Double Standard Between Genders in Showbiz
(01:03:36) Treatwell Ad
(01:04:37) How Kerry Met Ryan
(01:07:57) Kerry's Various Bankruptcies
(01:11:54) How Kerry Got into Doing OnlyFans Content
(01:14:53) How Did Kerry's Relationship with Ryan End?
(01:16:15) Kerry's Experience of 'Celebs Go Dating' and Meeting Paolo
(01:20:56) Kerry's Feelings on the 11 Year Age Gap Between Her and Paolo
(01:22:12) How Kerry's Feelings for Paolo Developed Over the Course of Shooting 'Celebs Go Dating'
(01:28:20) How the Media Will Portray Kerry and Paolo's Relationship
(01:31:58) Kerry's Biggest Takeaway from 'Celebs Go Dating'
(01:35:06) Kerry's Upcoming Projects
(01:36:34) Most Memorable Conversation
(01:40:11) Paul's Takeaways
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Bre Tiessi & Katherine Ryan on Motherhood: "It's OK Not to Be OK!" | We're Talking Boss Mums
Paul sits down with two incredible women, Katherine Ryan and Bre Tiessi, for an honest and vulnerable conversation about motherhood, identity, and navigating personal transformations.
They dive into the realities of having children, managing relationships, and the raw moments that come with becoming a mother.
◽️ Katherine Ryan reflects on having her first child at a young age ‘on purpose,’ her journey through the world of TV with Campus, and whether she’ll have more children in the future
◽️ Katherine opens up about why she and Bobby schedule sex to maintain their connection amidst their busy lives
◽️ Bre hares her deeply personal experience of childbirth and the mental health challenges of postpartum depression
◽️ Bre talks about how motherhood has reshaped her, offering insight into the personal growth that comes from this life-changing experience.
(00:00) Intro
(00:13) Katherine Having Her First Child at a Young Age 'On Purpose'
(06:40) Katherine's First TV Show 'Campus'
(08:45) Will Katherine Have More Children?
(10:18) Why Katherine and Bobby Schedule Sex
(12:31) The Average Amount People Have Sex
(13:54) Love Better Tour
(14:58) Bre's Experience of Childbirth
(19:13) Bre's Experience of Postpartum Depression
(24:14) How Did Motherhood Change Bre?
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Kerry Katona: I Didn’t Know Brian Cheated Before Our Wedding! THIS Is The Truth About Heidi & Liz’s Atomic Kitten Fights
Kerry Katona opens up like never before revealing the truth behind her rise to fame with Atomic Kitten, the challenges of her turbulent childhood, and the personal struggles that shaped her journey. From knowing she was destined for fame at just five years old, to navigating the highs and lows of public life, Kerry shares the story of what really happened behind the headlines.
In the emotional first part of this two-part conversation, Kerry discusses her complicated relationship with her mother and how she navigated fame and tabloid scrutiny. She opens up about her relationship with Brian McFadden, the public breakdown of their marriage, how she turned to drugs to deal with the heartbreak.
Kerry shares:
◽ Growing up as the product of an affair and forced to choose between parents
◽ The trauma of her early years and trying to buy her mum’s love
◽ How Atomic Kitten was formed and what went on behind closed doors
◽ The real reason she left Atomic Kitten
◽ How she met Brian McFadden and discovered his infidelity
◽ The emotional toll of fame and her battle with substance use
Kerry Katona, We Need to Talk.
See you next week for Part Two!
(00:00) Intro
(03:17) Kerry's Unique Family Situation and Childhood
(08:22) Kerry's Relationship with Her 'Dad' Dave
(12:48) The First Time Kerry Took Drugs
(15:09) Kerry's Biological Dad
(22:45) How Kerry Got Started in Modelling
(36:08) Shopify Ad
(37:06) Adobe Express Ad
(38:10) Kerry's Journey to Atomic Kitten
(41:11) Kerry's Time in the Porn Kings
(45:09) The Origins of Atomic Kitten
(50:50) Atomic Kitten's Rise to Fame
(55:32) Tinder Ad
(56:36) The Success of Atomic Kitten
(58:18) Why Did the Media Focus on Kerry?
(01:02:44) Kerry's Highlights of Being in Atomic Kitten
(01:03:51) Kerry's Encounters with Notable Stars
(01:09:00) Kerry's Lowest Moment in Atomic Kitten
(01:10:30) How Kerry Met Brian Mcfadden
(01:12:59) Did People in the Music Industry Like Kerry and Brian's Coupling?
(01:14:42) Brian's Proposal to Kerry
(01:15:59) Kerry's First Pregnancy
(01:17:07) The Impact of Kerry's Leaked Photos
(01:19:18) What Was Kerry's Relationship with the Press Like During Atomic Kitten and Her Marriage with Brian
(01:21:03) Kerry's Choice to Leave Atomic Kitten
(01:22:45) Kerry and Brian's Wedding
(01:24:42) Brian's Infidelity
(01:29:36) Kerry's Experience of Winning 'I'm a Celeb'
(01:37:22) Why Brian and Kerry Got Divorced
(01:44:39) Moving Back to Warrington After Kerry's Split with Brian
(01:45:30) Going to Rehab in Arizona
(01:47:23) Kerry's Diagnosis of Bipolar
(01:50:53) Part 2 Teaser
This episode includes some difficult conversations. If you’re impacted, we recommend the support charities below:Survivor's Trust: https://g2ul0.app.link/yh0NrvNsvTb
Refuge: https://g2ul0.app.link/td2zqEPpGTb
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I Was Painted As The Villain! | We're Talking TV Talent Shows
We’re Talking TV TALENT SHOWS: Two of the most iconic contestants - Cher Lloyd and Calum Scott - open up about their unforgettable auditions and what really happened after the cameras stopped rolling.
◽️ Cher takes us back to The X Factor stage at just 16 - and the backlash that nearly broke her
◽️ Calum reveals what it was like to go viral overnight after Britain’s Got Talent - and how he rebuilt himself afterwards
◽️ Both share the real truth about fame, pressure and surviving reality TV
(00:00) Intro
(00:33) Cher's X-Factor Audition
(03:52) How Does Cher Feel She Was Portrayed on X-Factor Versus What She Was Actually Like?
(06:35) What Kind of Mental Health Support Was Cher Getting on the X-Factor?
(07:51) What Was Cher's Relationship with the Judges Like?
(11:04) What Was Living with the Other Artists Like?
(15:17) Love Better Tour Ad
(16:23) Calum's Experience of His Britain's Got Talent Audition
(27:16) Calum Reflects on the Impact BGT Had on His Career
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