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The Resilient Recruiter

Recruitment Coach Mark Whitby
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  • The Resilient Recruiter

    A Recruitment Firm That Guarantees Every Placement for 12 Months, with Jessica Multhauf and Lewis Waitt

    11/03/2026 | 1 h 9 min
    A 12-month guarantee on every placement.

    That’s not something you hear often in recruitment.

    Lewis Waitt and Jessica Multhauf built their firm, Aliniti, around the idea that the placement is only the beginning of the relationship. Because of the way they run their searches — and the way they support both the client and the new hire after the hire — more than 90% of their placements are still in the role after one year.

    Aliniti didn’t start as a recruitment firm. It began as an HR and organisational development consultancy working closely with privately held and family-owned businesses. Recruiting came later, growing naturally from long-term advisory relationships with clients who needed help hiring.

    That consulting background shapes everything about how they approach recruitment today.

    They define the role properly before the search begins, challenge unrealistic expectations, and stay closely involved with both the client and the new hire long after the placement.

    The result is stronger hiring outcomes, deeper client relationships, and a recruitment business built on long-term partnerships rather than one-off transactions.

    In this episode of The Resilient Recruiter, Lewis and Jess explain how their model works and why it produces better results for both clients and candidates.

    What You’ll Learn in This Episode

    • Why Aliniti offers a 12-month guarantee on every placement
    • How their consulting background shapes their recruiting approach
    • The role clarity process they run before every search
    • Why unrealistic job briefs lead to failed searches
    • How staying involved after the hire improves retention
    • Why multiple service lines create stability in a recruitment business
    • How long-term advisory relationships generate repeat recruiting work

    Timestamps

    00:00 Introduction
    03:09 How Aliniti started and why recruiting grew out of HR consulting
    06:37 Lewis joins the firm as the founder’s son-in-law
    09:29 Jess’s path from opera singer to recruitment leader
    13:30 The “four-leg chair” business model
    15:52 The retained HR model that stabilised the business
    19:31 Why deep client knowledge improves search outcomes
    28:24 The role clarity process before every search
    33:49 Handling unrealistic salary expectations and “purple squirrel” briefs
    38:56 Why Aliniti offers a 12-month guarantee
    45:37 The onboarding process that improves retention
    57:57 Vision for the next three years
    1:01:00 Why the firm uses profit sharing instead of commission

    Sponsor

    This episode is sponsored by Recruiterflow, the AI-first operating system for recruitment agencies and executive search firms.

    Recruiterflow combines a powerful ATS and CRM with AI built directly into your workflows, helping recruiters focus on conversations and decisions while the system handles the heavy lifting.

    Learn more and request a demo:
    https://recruitmentcoach.com/recruiterflow

    Resources Mentioned

    Aliniti
    https://www.aliniti.com

    Lewis Waitt
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/lewiswaitt/

    Jessica Multhauf
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmulthauf/

    Seven Figure Freedom Scorecard
    https://recruitmentcoach.com/scorecard

    Trusted Voice Video

    https://recruitmentcoach.com/video

    If you want to build a recruitment firm where clients stay for years and placements actually stick, this episode is well worth your time.
  • The Resilient Recruiter

    How to Win Enterprise Clients and Turn One Deal Into Recurring Revenue, with Brendan Thomas

    04/03/2026 | 1 h 4 min
    One placement can be a transaction. Or it can be the start of a long-term enterprise relationship.

    Most recruiters treat it like the first. Brendan Thomas built his career on the second.

    He started recruiting at 36, got fired after his first $60,000 placement, and joined a new agency six months later with two clients. By the end of that year, he had built over $600,000 in billings.

    Six years on, he has generated more than $5 million in lifetime billings, averaged $1 million per year, and qualified for CEO Club every quarter.

    He did it by ignoring the advice nearly every experienced recruiter gave him. When he asked million-dollar billers how they did it, the one piece of advice he kept hearing was to avoid enterprise accounts. He ignored it.

    In this episode, Brendan breaks down exactly how he cracks major enterprise accounts, navigates HR and Talent Acquisition without getting blocked, and earns the kind of deep access - hiring manager calendars, ATS logins, long-term contracts - that turns one deal into recurring revenue.

    This episode is brought to you by Recruiterflow

    Recruiterflow is the AI-first operating system built specifically for recruitment agencies and executive search firms. It combines a powerful ATS and CRM with AI embedded directly into your recruiting process.

    Less admin. Smarter follow-up. More time spent on revenue-generating conversations.

    Request a demo: recruitmentcoach.com/recruiterflow

    In this episode, you'll discover:

    Why Brendan ignored the advice to avoid enterprise accounts - and what happened when he did

    How to lead with a real candidate to get hiring manager buy-in before HR enters the picture

    The three responses you'll get from Talent Acquisition - and how to handle each one

    When to walk away from an account and the red flags that tell you it's time

    How to expand one placement into a long-term enterprise relationship

    Why Brendan never asks for referrals until the candidate has had at least a week in the role

    How to earn direct access to hiring manager calendars

    What discipline actually looks like on a million-dollar desk

    Episode Highlights:

    [0:38] The $60,000 placement that got Brendan fired and what he did next

    [1:01] Starting over: $600,000 in billings in six months

    [3:25] How Brendan entered recruitment at age 36

    [18:46] The question he asked million-dollar billers and the advice he rejected

    [23:16] Why enterprise accounts are harder to crack and why he pursued them anyway

    [28:15] How to approach hiring managers before going to HR

    [35:38] The three HR responses and how to handle each one

    [46:14] Red flags, yellow flags, and green flags - deciding which accounts to pursue

    [54:15] Expanding an account after your first placement

    [56:42] Earning direct access to hiring manager calendars

    [1:03:23] What "uptime" really means for a million-dollar biller

    About Brendan Thomas

    Brendan Thomas specialises in finance and accounting placements across manufacturing, construction, and technology industries in the United States. He joined Jobot in June 2020 and has since generated over $5 million in lifetime billings, averaging approximately $1 million per year.

    He has qualified for CEO Club every quarter and hit the $125,000+ quarterly threshold 22 quarters in a row. He is ranked third in lifetime billing at Jobot.

    He works nationwide and is available from 5am to 5pm Pacific daily.

    Connect with Brendan:
    linkedin.com/in/brendanwthomas

    Connect with Mark Whitby

    Free 30-minute strategy call: recruitmentcoach.com/strategy-session

    LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mwhitby

    Instagram: @RecruitmentCoach
  • The Resilient Recruiter

    How to Build a Recruiter Training System That Produces Top Billers, with Larissa Gerlach

    27/02/2026 | 1 h 12 min
    Most recruitment agencies believe in training.

    Very few build a structured system that consistently produces top billers.

    Larissa Gerlach experienced the hard version first. In year one, she earned $40,000 and questioned whether she would make it in recruitment at all. By year three, she had reached President’s Club. Soon after, the CFO of a private equity-backed recruiting firm asked her to replicate her results across 25 offices.

    That request became the foundation of a national recruiter training programme.

    In this episode, Mark Whitby and Larissa unpack what actually drives recruiter performance, why activity metrics alone don’t create top billers, and how recruitment business owners can build scalable training systems that reduce ramp-up time and increase recruiter billings.

    If you are serious about recruitment agency growth, search firm leadership, and building consistent performance inside your team, this conversation goes beyond theory.

    It’s about systems.

    What You’ll Discover

    • Why 200+ calls per week worked — and why most recruiters still fail at high activity
    • The difference between knowledge and live desk performance
    • How to turn individual billing success into a national training framework
    • Why daily role plays accelerate recruiter revenue
    • The three structural reasons founders struggle to implement training
    • Why cohort-based onboarding produces stronger long-term performance
    • How to build recruitment agency systems that scale beyond one top performer

    Episode Highlights

    [03:56] From fashion sales to recruitment after the 2009 recession
    [08:37] The $40,000 first year and the meeting where she nearly quit
    [12:35] Why most recruiters struggle in year one — and what actually starts to click
    [22:15] The 200-calls-per-week discipline that changed her trajectory
    [26:07] The CFO email that led to building a national sales training programme
    [28:17] What the training playbook looked like — from binder to LMS
    [35:51] Why daily role plays create elite performers
    [1:05:49] The three reasons most founders struggle to train their teams
    [1:10:29] Why group cohorts outperform one-to-one onboarding

    About Larissa Gerlach

    Larissa Gerlach is the founder of Vibrant Talent Group, an executive search firm specialising in marketing, product, and design roles across New York and San Francisco. She has over 15 years of experience across billing, business development, national learning and development, and agency leadership. At a private equity-backed recruiting firm, she became the fastest-growing salesperson in company history before leading national recruiter training initiatives.

    Resources Mentioned

    Recruiter Training Programme
    https://recruitmentcoach.com/training

    Seven Figure Freedom Scorecard
    https://recruitmentcoach.com/scorecard

    Recruiterflow
    https://recruitmentcoach.com/recruiterflow

    Trusted Voice Video
    https://recruitmentcoach.com/video

    Book a free strategy session with Mark Whitby
    https://recruitmentcoach.com/strategy-session

    If you want weekly conversations with recruitment business owners, executive search leaders, and top billers focused on recruitment agency revenue, recruiter performance, and long-term business resilience, follow The Resilient Recruiter on Apple Podcasts.

    The difference between average billers and elite teams is rarely motivation.

    It’s structure.
  • The Resilient Recruiter

    Why AI Has Made Recruitment Harder, Not Easier, with Greg Savage

    18/02/2026 | 1 h 4 min
    Six years ago, Greg Savage was the very first guest on The Resilient Recruiter.

    For episode 300, he returns to discuss the biggest shift our industry has faced since the rise of the internet: artificial intelligence.

    And he doesn’t hold back.

    “The contingent, multi-listed perm market… I think that is over.”

    Greg has built four recruitment businesses. He’s the author of The Savage Truth (20,000+ copies sold). He’s spent five decades watching this industry evolve.

    His view?

    AI hasn’t made recruitment easier.

    In many ways, it’s made it harder.

    Two years ago, Greg outlined a series of predictions about how AI would reshape recruitment. In this episode, we revisit those predictions and assess what’s proving true — and where the pace of change has accelerated.

    But this isn’t a doom-and-gloom conversation.

    It’s about where recruitment agencies win next.

    If you lead a recruitment agency or executive search firm, this episode will challenge how you think about AI, positioning, and long-term relevance.

    Episode Highlights

    00:33 The biggest threat and opportunity Greg has seen in decades
    02:14 Why the contingent, multi-listed perm model is under pressure
    06:34 AI shortlisting chaos and the 14% overlap test
    08:32 What “automating dysfunction” really means
    26:20 The highest ROI AI opportunity right now
    30:43 Four questions to ask before buying any AI tool
    54:04 The rise of the “techno-empath” recruiter

    What You’ll Learn

    Why AI Is Making Recruitment Harder

    Why AI screening tools produced only 14% overlap in shortlists

    Research suggesting around 40% of tech candidates have inflated their resumes

    What “automating dysfunction” looks like in practice

    The four questions every recruitment leader should ask before investing in AI

    Which Recruitment Models Will Survive

    Why the contingent, multi-listed perm model is under pressure

    Why retained search and executive search are positioned to grow

    The business models most likely to thrive over the next five years

    Why recruiters must sell decision-making, not just placements

    What Recruiters Must Master Next

    The highest ROI AI opportunity: activating and cleaning your recruitment database

    Why “techno-empath” recruiters will win

    The moments of truth that must never be automated

    The skills that will define high-performing recruiters in an AI-driven market

    This episode speaks directly to recruitment agency growth, retained versus contingent recruitment, and how to scale a recruitment business as AI reshapes hiring.

    Why Episode 300 Matters

    When I launched this podcast in 2019, Greg was my first guest.

    Since then, we’ve lived through a pandemic, a hiring boom, a market correction, and now the fastest wave of AI adoption our industry has ever seen.

    Bringing him back for episode 300 felt right.

    This conversation is less about tools and more about leadership, positioning, and how to build a recruitment business that stays relevant.

    Sponsor

    This episode is brought to you by Recruiterflow.

    Recruiterflow is an end-to-end, AI-first ecosystem built to run and scale your recruitment business. It combines ATS, CRM, sequencing, data enrichment, marketing automation, and AI agents in one platform, helping recruitment agencies improve visibility, accountability, and performance.

    Book a demo at:
    https://recruitmentcoach.com/recruiterflow

    If you want to future-proof your recruitment business without burning out, this episode is a must-listen.

    Connect with Mark Whitby

    Get your FREE 30-minute strategy call:
    https://www.recruitmentcoach.com/strategy-session/

    Connect with Mark on LinkedIn.

    If you’re a recruitment agency owner serious about scaling, retained search, and staying ahead of AI in recruitment, subscribe to The Resilient Recruiter so you don’t miss future conversations like this.

    If you want to future-proof your recruitment business without getting left behind, this episode is essential listening.
  • The Resilient Recruiter

    How to Win Retained Recruitment Work Without Pitching Harder, with James O'Brien

    11/02/2026 | 1 h 5 min
    Why do some recruiters win retained work in a single meeting while others pitch for weeks and still lose to contingent competitors?

    My guest, James O’Brien, knows exactly why. And it has nothing to do with fee structure.

    James is the Managing Director and COO at i-intro. He’s been in recruitment since the late 1980s and has spent the last decade helping recruitment firms move from transactional, contingent work into retained and exclusive assignments. His clients consistently outperform the market, with 96% one-year retention and 93% of placements still in role after two years.

    In this episode, James delivers a practical masterclass on consultative selling. He explains why most recruiters lose retained work before they even walk into the meeting, how to reframe hiring conversations around risk and retention, and what it really means to position yourself as a management consultant who specializes in talent acquisition.

    This conversation is for recruiters who are tired of pitching, discounting, and competing with five other agencies for the same role.

    You’ll hear the exact questions James uses to expose hidden hiring failure, why “wow” should be the standard for every client meeting, and how preparation, not persuasion, is what wins retained work consistently.

    In this episode, you’ll learn:

    Why recruitment isn’t the real problem and retention is

    The three questions that reframe hiring failure for clients

    How to measure retention and use it to justify higher fees

    Why most recruiters lose retained work in the preparation, not the pitch

    How to show value instead of just describing your process

    What accountability really looks like beyond the placement

    Why retained fees feel fair when clients understand the true cost of hiring failure

    Episode Highlights:

    [03:56] Why transactional recruitment is dying

    [10:13] Recruitment’s not the problem. Retention is

    [13:34] How to measure retention and monetize better outcomes

    [18:00] The three questions that reveal a 20–30% hiring failure rate

    [32:23] Why “wow” should be your minimum standard in client meetings

    [36:35] The preparation process that wins retained work

    [45:00] Why proposals still matter and when to send them

    [59:03] Accountability beyond the placement and why 12-month guarantees work

    Sponsor

    This episode is brought to you by Recruiterflow — an end-to-end, AI-first recruitment platform designed to help recruiters run and scale their business more effectively. Recruiterflow combines ATS, CRM, sequencing, data enrichment, marketing automation, and AI agents in one streamlined system. Many top recruiting leaders and members of our coaching community rely on Recruiterflow to stay organised, consistent, and competitive.

    You can learn more or request a demo at https://recruitmentcoach.com/recruiterflow.

    Guest Bio

    James O’Brien is the Managing Director and COO at i-intro. Since the late 1980s, he has worked across every part of the recruitment industry and now helps recruitment firms transition from contingent to retained and exclusive search. His work focuses on retention, accountability, and elevating recruiters from job fillers to trusted talent advisors.

    Connect with James:
    LinkedIn: James O’Brien
    Website: i-intro

    Connect with Mark Whitby

    Get your free 30-minute strategy session: recruitmentcoach.com/strategy-session

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