Future of Education Podcast

In Part 2 of the conversation, MacKenzie wraps up the discussion with Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt and policy expert Jon Schnur, expanding the conversation further to include insights from state and workforce leaders across the country. Dan Hamlin, Oklahoma’s Secretary of Education, Mary Cypress Metz of Tennessee’s State Collaborative on Reforming Education, and Maria Flynn, President and CEO of Jobs for the Future share on-the-ground perspectives on what’s working, what’s broken, and what it will take to connect education reform to real economic opportunity for students and communities.

In this episode, MacKenzie is joined by two leaders on the frontlines of education innovation: Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt and national education policy expert Jon Schnur. Jon has worked with presidents across party lines, including Obama, Bush, and Clinton, and is currently the CEO of America Achieves, an organization focused on expanding access to economic opportunity and clear pathways to good jobs.Together, Kevin and Jon share honest insights into the current state of education, drawing from their unique perspectives in government, policy, and on-the-ground reform to explore what it will actually take to create better outcomes for students and communities.

In Part 2, MacKenzie breaks down eleven learning science principles that reveal how kids really learn. Covering everything from memory and focus to motivation and mastery, this episode explains what the brain needs to learn faster, retain more, and build real confidence. It’s a practical crash course in what makes learning stick and how parents can spot environments that support the brain rather than fight it.

In this episode, MacKenzie unpacks eleven learning science principles that explain how kids actually learn. From memory and focus to motivation and mastery, this conversation breaks down what the brain truly needs to learn faster, retain more, and build real confidence- both in and out of the classroom. Think of this as a crash course in what makes learning stick, and how parents can spot (and support) environments that truly work with the brain instead of against it.

65% percent of kids entering elementary school today will work in jobs that don’t exist yet. The future is unpredictable and the old formula for success is breaking. Grades, degrees, and linear career paths no longer guarantee anything. In this solo episode, MacKenzie explores four future-proof skills that matter more than ever as technology reshapes the world of work.