Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning

In this episode Andrea Samadi interviews Thoryn Stevens, CEO and founder of Brain.One, about using AI, wearables, biomarkers and evidence-based micro-habits to create personalized brain-health protocols.

Watch our full interview on YouTube here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9UN9kev2CE

What We Covered on EP 386 with Thoryn Stephens
The Problem with Generic Wellness Advice

Why most health advice fails to translate into sustained behavior change

The gap between research findings and real-world application

Why optimization must be systematic, not inspirational

From Data to Daily Micro-Habits

How Brain.One analyzes peer-reviewed research using AI

Turning biometrics (HRV, sleep data, metabolic markers) into actionable protocols

Why small, consistent micro-habits compound into long-term neuroplastic change

Wearables & What Actually Matters

The most misunderstood wearable metrics

HRV, sleep architecture, and recovery as early indicators of cognitive health

How to avoid becoming obsessive with numbers while still using data intelligently

Dementia Prevention & Cognitive Longevity

Evidence-based strategies inspired by the Lancet dementia prevention framework

Why metabolic health and inflammation play a critical role in brain aging

Prevention vs. reversal: when to start optimizing brain health

Biological Bottlenecks to Human Potential

Stress dysregulation as a performance limiter

Sleep architecture and glymphatic clearance

Metabolic flexibility and mitochondrial function

Why emotional regulation remains foundational to cognitive performance

AI in Health: Hype vs. Evidence

What makes Brain.One’s system evidence-constrained

How AI can scale personalized health protocols

The future of data-driven behavioral optimization

🔑 Key Takeaway
Lasting change doesn’t require radical overhauls.

It requires precise, repeatable micro-adjustments — aligned with your biology.

Optimization is not about perfection or obsession.
It’s about awareness, alignment, and consistency.

Welcome back to Season 15 of the Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast.

I’m Andrea Samadi, and here we bridge the science behind social and emotional learning, emotional intelligence, and practical neuroscience—so you can create measurable improvements in well-being, achievement, productivity, and results.

When we launched this podcast seven years ago, it was driven by a question I had never been taught to ask—
not in school,
not in business,
and not in life:

If results matter—and they matter now more than ever—how exactly are we using our brain to make these results happen?

Most of us were taught what to do.
Very few of us were taught how to think under pressure,
how to regulate emotion,
how to sustain motivation,
or even how to produce consistent results without burning out.

That question led me into a deep exploration of the mind–brain–results connection—and how neuroscience applies to everyday decisions, conversations, and performance.

That’s why this podcast exists.

Each week, we bring you leading experts to break down complex science and translate it into practical strategies you can apply immediatelyEach week, we bring you world-class researchers, clinicians, and performance innovators to break down complex science — and turn it into strategies you can use immediately.

We’ve been reviewing past episodes for the past 2 seasons, but every now and then, when I see someone doing something innovative, I want to learn more.

And today’s guest sits right at the intersection of biology, AI, and human potential.

🎙 GUEST INTRO

For Episode 386, we’re joined by Thoryn Stephens, scientist, molecular biologist, data visionary, and Founder & CEO of Brain.One.

Brain.One is an AI-powered health optimization platform designed to transform scientific research into personalized, actionable protocols — using real-time physiological data from wearables like Apple Health, Oura, and Garmin.

Instead of generic wellness advice, Brain.One analyzes research literature and biometric inputs to build precision micro-habits — targeting sleep architecture, metabolic health, cognitive performance, stress regulation, and even dementia risk reduction.

Its protocols are used by high-performing athletes, executives, and longevity-focused individuals seeking not just better performance — but long-term brain resilience.

From insomnia reduction to high-altitude performance to evidence-based dementia prevention inspired by the Lancet 2020 framework, Brain.One is attempting something ambitious:

To make human optimization measurable, systematic, and scalable.

Today, we’ll explore:

Can AI truly personalize brain health?
• What are the biological bottlenecks limiting human potential?
• And what does prevention look like before decline begins?

Let’s welcome Thoryn Stephens to the show.

🎙 EP 386 – Thoryn Stephens | Brain.One

OPENING

“Thoryn, welcome to the Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast. We focus on measurable results here— and you are talking to someone who has a wearable, and measures EVERYTHING and you’re building something that targets our brain optimization through AI and real-time physiology. I’m excited to explore how this actually works and dive into what you have created”

Q1 – The Origin Story

 “What problem did you see in human performance or brain health that made you say — this can’t just be more information, it has to become a system and I’m going to build it?”

Follow-up:

Was it a gap between research and application?
A frustration with generic wellness advice? Where did you first notice this?

Q2 – From Potential to Protocol

 “If we believe every human has unrealized capacity — what are the biological bottlenecks that prevent that capacity from expressing itself? What are MOST of us missing?

Is it inflammation?
Poor sleep architecture?
Dysregulated stress systems?
Metabolic dysfunction?

 “Can microhabits truly rewire long-term outcomes — or are there foundational non-negotiables that we must master first?”

We have been focused on these 6 Health Staples (Movement, Sleep, Nutrition, Gut Health, Stress Regulation)

Q2B: What is your morning protocol?

Q3 – Dementia & Prevention (Make it Strategic)

 “For someone in their 40s or 50s who wants to reduce dementia risk by 30–40%, what are the highest-leverage interventions today?”

Then:

What does the data say about metabolic health?
How early should we intervene?
Is brain decline reversible in early stages?

Tie this to the Lancet 2020 dementia protocol directly.

Q4 – Wearables & Real Data

 “Most high performers now track HRV, RHR, sleep stages, and blood biomarkers. What are the 3 data signals you believe matter most — and what do most people misunderstand about them?”

Follow with:

If HRV is low chronically — what does Brain.One do?
If REM sleep is suppressed?
If ApoB (heart disease) or fasting insulin is elevated?

Q5 – The AI Engine

 “There’s a lot of AI noise in health right now. What makes your AI system actually evidence-constrained rather than trend-driven?”

And:

How do you prevent protocol errors?
How do you weight studies?
How does the system evolve as new papers are published?

Q6 – Influences

 “Which scientific frameworks most shaped Brain.One — metabolic psychiatry? Longevity science? Systems biology?” What are you focused on helping your users to improve?

Q7 – The Audience Question

 “Who is Brain.One most transformative for right now — elite athletes? Executives under chronic stress? Midlife adults worried about decline?”

Is it ready for educators and school systems?
Is this preventive technology?

Q8 – Conclusion

 “If we fast-forward 10 years — what will we know about brain optimization that most people still underestimate today?”

 “What’s the biggest mistake high achievers make when trying to optimize their brain?”

 “Where does emotional regulation fit into your model? Can someone optimize cognition without first stabilizing their stress response system?”

Thank you Thoryn for taking the time to speak with me today to learn more about how we can dive deeper into our health with brain optimization. For people to follow you, are the best places LinkedIn and IG, as well as your website?

Thank you!

🎙  EP 386: Final Thoughts
Thoryn Stephens challenged me to think differently about what it truly means to take ownership of our health.

For many of us, the journey begins with awareness.

For me, it started when I began tracking my recovery and strain with a wearable device. That data sparked deeper questions about my own protocols — how I sleep, how I recover, how I regulate stress, and how small daily behaviors compound over time.

I continue to wake around 4am, use infrared sauna as part of my recovery routine, practice meditation, incorporate red light therapy, and thoughtfully experiment with supplements. But what this conversation reinforced for me is something even deeper:

Optimization is not about obsession.
It’s about alignment.

When I discovered Dr. Dan Siegel’s Wheel of Awareness[i] meditation years ago, I realized that connection — to self and to others — is as essential as any biomarker we track. Numbers matter. But meaning matters more.

If you’re listening and wondering where to begin, the most powerful takeaway from today’s conversation is this:

Change doesn’t require an overhaul.
It requires a micro-shift.

Drink more water.
Improve sleep by 15 minutes.
Take a daily walk.
Reduce one inflammatory habit.

Small adjustments, repeated consistently, become transformation.

And equally important — if your pursuit of optimization begins to reduce your joy, pause. Recalibrate. Performance without well-being is not progress.

If you’d like to explore your own personalized protocol, visit Brain.One and join their waitlist. I’ll be sharing my experience once I receive my own AI-designed protocol based on my biomarkers.

Next week, we continue our Season 15 review — revisiting past conversations to understand how these foundational brain systems connect.

Because when the systems align, results follow.

See you next week.

RESOURCES:

The Universe Within Podcast EP 183 Interview with Thoryn Stephens on Plants, Medicine, AI, Consciousness, Biology and Machines https://open.spotify.com/episode/2txYOpzaRl6BQbxsJZ4U6o

Thoryn Stephens Interview with Longevity Leadership https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoGJ1D0hax0

www.wavimed.com EEG brain insights

www.tassoinc.com Home Blood Testing

www.brainspan.com Blood biomarkers with a functional assessment

www.peptides.one

Lancet 2024 Dementia prevention, intervention, and care Published August 10th, 2024  https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01296-0/abstract

FOLLOW Thoryn Stephens

LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/thoryn/

Instagram https://www.instagram.com/ragearea

Website https://brain.one/

RESOURCES FROM INTERVIEW

Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 250 “Success in Non-Linear: Using Neuroscience to Achieve Quantum Leaps the Kaizen Way” https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/brain-fact-friday-on-success-is-non-linear-using-neuroscience-to-achieve-quantum-leaps-the-kaizen-way/

 

Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 285 Revisiting Dr. Bruce Perry “Safety First: Why a Regulated Brain is the Key to Learning” https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/safety-first-why-a-regulated-brain-is-the-key-to-learning/

 

Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 84 PART 3 “How a Spect Image Brain Scan Can Change Your Life” https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/how-a-spect-scan-can-change-your-life-part-3-with-andrea-samadi/

REFERENCES:

[i] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 60 “The Science Behind a Meditation Practice”  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/the-science-behind-a-meditation-practice-with-a-deep-dive-into-dr-dan-siegel-s-wheel-of-awareness/

In this episode Andrea Samadi revisits Season 15’s foundation with Dr. Bruce Perry to explore how safety, regulation, and patterned experience shape the brain’s capacity to learn and create. We examine why potential must be activated through repetition, rhythm, and low-threat environments, and how trauma, stress, or dysregulation block learning.

Takeaways include practical steps for educators, parents, and leaders: prioritize nervous-system safety before instruction, use micro-repetition to build skills, and employ storytelling to make scientific ideas stick.

This episode anchors Phase 1 of the season: regulation, rhythm, repetition, and relational safety as the prerequisites for sustainable performance and lasting change.

This week, Episode 385—based on our review of Episode 168 recorded in October 2021—we explore:

✔ 1. Genetic Potential vs. Developed Capacity
We are born with extraordinary biological potential.
But experience determines which neural systems become functional.
The brain builds what it repeatedly uses.

✔ 2. The Brain Is Use-Dependent
Language, emotional regulation, leadership skills, motor precision—
all are wired through patterned, rhythmic repetition.

✔ 3. Trauma, Regulation & Learning
A dysregulated nervous system cannot efficiently learn.
Safety, rhythm, and relational connection come before strategy.

✔ 4. “What Happened to You?” vs. “What’s Wrong with You?”
Shifting from judgment to curiosity changes how we approach:

Children

Students

Teams

Ourselves

✔ 5. Early Experience Shapes Long-Term Expression
Developmental inputs—especially patterned, early ones—
determine which capacities are strengthened.

✔ 6. Repetition Builds Confidence
Confidence is not a personality trait.
It is neural circuitry built through structured repetition in safe environments.

✔ 7. Story Makes Science Stick
From Dr. Perry’s experience writing with Oprah:
You can’t tell everybody everything you know.
Impact comes from:

One core idea

Wrapped in story

Delivered with restraint

✔ 8. Information Overload Weakens Learning
Depth > Volume
Clarity > Density
Retention > Impressive Data

✔ 9. Regulation Comes Before Motivation
Before goals.
Before performance.
Before achievement.
The nervous system must feel safe.

✔ 10. Season 15’s Foundational Question
Is the nervous system safe enough to learn?

Welcome back to Season 15 of the Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast.

I’m Andrea Samadi, and here we bridge the science behind social and emotional learning, emotional intelligence, and practical neuroscience—so we can create measurable improvements in well-being, achievement, productivity, and results.

When we launched this podcast seven years ago, it was driven by a question I had never been taught to ask—
not in school,
not in business,
and not in life:

If results matter—and they matter now more than ever—how exactly are we using our brain to make these results happen?

Most of us were taught what to do.
Very few of us were taught how to think under pressure,
how to regulate emotion,
how to sustain motivation,
or even how to produce consistent results without burning out.

That question led me into a deep exploration of the mind–brain–results connection—and how neuroscience applies to everyday decisions, conversations, and performance.

That’s why this podcast exists.

Each week, we bring you leading experts to break down complex science and translate it into practical strategies you can apply immediately.

If you’ve been with us through Season 14, you may have felt something shift.

That season wasn’t about collecting ideas.

It was about integrating these ideas into our daily life, as we launched our review of past episodes.

Across conversations on neuroscience, social and emotional learning, sleep, stress, exercise, nutrition, and mindset frameworks—we heard from voices like Bob Proctor, José Silva, Dr. Church, Dr. John Medina, and others—one thing became clear:

These aren’t separate tools that we are covering in each episode.
They’re parts of one operating system.

When the brain, body, and emotions are aligned, performance stops feeling forced—and starts to feel sustainable.

Season 14 showed us what alignment looks like in real life. We looked at goals and mental direction, rewiring the brain, future-ready learning and leadership, self-leadership, which ALL led us to inner alignment.

And now we move into Season 15 that is about understanding how that alignment is built—so we can build it ourselves, using predictable, science-backed principles.

Because alignment doesn’t happen all at once.
It happens by using a sequence.

And when we understand the order of that sequence —
we can replicate it.

By repeating this sequence over and over again, until magically (or predictably) we notice our results have changed.

So Season 15 we’ve organized as a review roadmap, where each episode explores one foundational brain system—and each phase builds on the one before it.

Season 15 Roadmap:

Phase 1 — Regulation & Safety
Phase 2 — Neurochemistry & Motivation
Phase 3 — Movement, Learning & Cognition
Phase 4 — Perception, Emotion & Social Intelligence
Phase 5 — Integration, Insight & Meaning

PHASE 1: REGULATION & SAFETY
Staples: Sleep + Stress Regulation
Core Question: Is the nervous system safe enough to learn?

Anchor Episodes

Episode 384 — Baland Jalal
How learning begins: curiosity, sleep, imagination, creativity
Bruce Perry
“What happened to you?” — trauma, rhythm, relational safety
Sui Wong
Autonomic balance, lifestyle medicine, brain resilience
Rohan Dixit
HRV, real-time self-regulation, nervous system literacy

Last week we began with Phase One: Regulation and Safety as we revisited Dr. Baland Jalal’s interview from June 2022.

EP 384 — Dr. Baland Jalal[i]
Dr. Baland Jalal

This episode sits at the foundation of Season 15.

Dr. Baland Jalal is a Harvard neuroscientist whose work explores how sleep, imagination, and curiosity shape the brain’s capacity to learn and create.

What stood out to me then — and even more now — is that learning doesn’t begin with effort. It begins when the brain is rested, regulated, and free to explore possibility.

This conversation reminds us that creativity isn’t added later — it’s built into the brain when conditions are right.

It’s here we remember that before learning can happen,
before curiosity can emerge,
before motivation or growth is possible—
the brain must feel safe.

And what better place to begin with safety and the brain, than with Dr. Bruce Perry, who we met October of 2021 on EP 168.[ii]

EP 385 — Dr. Bruce Perry
Dr. Bruce Perry (Episode 168 – October 2021)
Dr. Bruce Perry, Senior Fellow of the Child Trauma Academy in Houston, Texas, and Adjunct Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at the Feinberg School of Medicine in Chicago, joined the podcast to help us better understand how traumatic experiences shape the developing brain.

At the time, I was deeply concerned about the generational impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. In one of Dr. Perry’s trainings, he referenced research conducted after Hurricane Katrina in 2005, which showed that families exposed to prolonged stress experienced increased rates of substance abuse — not only in those directly affected, but in the next generation as well.

As I began hearing reports of rising depression, anxiety, and substance use during the pandemic, I wondered:

What could we do now to reduce the long-term neurological and emotional impact on our children, our schools, and future generations?

Dr. Perry agreed to come on the show to share insights from his work and to discuss his book, co-authored with Oprah Winfrey:

What Happened to You: Conversations on Trauma, Resilience and Healing.[iii]

Dr. Bruce Perry challenges one of the most common questions we ask in education, leadership, and parenting.

Instead of asking, “What’s wrong with you?” he asks, “What happened to you?”

In this conversation, we explored how early experiences shape the brain, how trauma disrupts regulation, and why healing begins with rhythm, safety, and connection.

You can find a link to our full interview in the resource section in the show notes.

This episode anchors Season 15 by reminding us: a dysregulated brain cannot learn — no matter how good the strategy.

Let’s go to our first clip with Dr. Bruce Perry, and look deeper at how we are all born with potential, but our experience builds the rest.

🎥 VIDEO CLIP 1 We are born with potential, experience builds the rest— Dr. Bruce Perry

“As a species, we carry within our collective DNA extraordinary potential — remarkable cognitive, motor, and social-emotional capabilities.

But no single individual receives or expresses the full range of that potential. Each of us is born with a portion of what is possible, and from that portion, only some capacities become functional.

What determines which abilities develop? Experience.

Developmental experiences — especially early patterned ones — shape which neural systems are built and strengthened.

For example, we’re speaking English right now, but we all had the biological potential to speak Russian. Because we were not exposed to those sounds and patterns early in life, that potential was never wired into functional capacity.

The same principle applies beyond language. I may not have the motor precision to manipulate a joystick like my 9-year-old grandson — not because I lack the biological capacity, but because I never built that system through repetition and experience.

Across motor, cognitive, and social-emotional domains, many human capabilities remain unexpressed — not absent, just undeveloped.”

🔑 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS CLIP

We are born with vast genetic potential.
As a species, our DNA carries extraordinary cognitive, motor, and social-emotional capacities.
Not all potential becomes functional.
We don’t automatically “get” every capability encoded in our biology.
Experience determines expression.
Early developmental experiences decide which neural networks are built and strengthened.
The brain builds what it repeatedly uses.
Language, coordination, emotional regulation — these are constructed through patterned exposure.
Unexpressed potential isn’t absence — it’s underdevelopment.
The capacity may exist, but without experience, it remains dormant.

🧠 WHAT THIS REALLY MEANS
You weren’t “bad at math.”
You weren’t “not athletic.”
You weren’t “not leadership material.”

You may simply not have had the patterned developmental inputs required to wire those systems. In plain language?

Skills grow where there is repetition, rhythm, and experience.

The brain is use-dependent.
It builds what it practices.
It strengthens what it repeats.

This research leads us back some of our earlier episodes 37[iv] and 38[v], but we will cover those later in our review.

🧠 TIPS TO PUT THESE IDEAS INTO ACTION
1.    No more labeling — start assessing exposure to these genetic capabilities.
THINK: What experiences did I have — or not have — to build this?”

Instead of saying:

“I’m not good at this.”

Ask:

“Have I had enough patterned exposure to build this skill?”

It’s interesting when I talk to people about this podcast journey. It’s only been seven years, but we’ve gone deep into understanding the brain–body–emotion connection.

And I always remind people — we all begin somewhere.

When I go back to my very first interview with Dr. Ron Hall, I remember my audio wouldn’t work. We nearly couldn’t figure it out. It turned out to be a simple setting on my end — and this was before Zoom became part of everyone’s daily life.

At that time, I was also being introduced to experts like Horacio Sanchez, and I was still building my own understanding of the brain.

I wasn’t an expert.
I was exposed.
Repeatedly.

And over time, repetition turned into fluency.

That’s the point.

We can learn almost anything with focused effort and persistence — and it becomes easier when we love what we’re building.

Because the brain wires what it practices.
And passion fuels repetition.

2.    Create micro-repetition environments.
Skills build through:

Rhythm
Repetition
Emotional safety
Low threat

This is where your Regulation & Safety phase becomes critical.

A dysregulated brain — one that feels threatened, overwhelmed, or chronically stressed — cannot efficiently build new neural networks. It defaults to survival, not growth.

If we want to become excellent at anything — a sport, a podcast, leadership, communication — it requires consistent, patterned practice.

I can use this podcast as an example.

There were seasons when my corporate responsibilities consumed most of my attention. During those times, I wasn’t producing weekly episodes. And when I returned, I noticed something interesting:

The automaticity I had built through consistent repetition had faded slightly.

It didn’t disappear — but it needed rebuilding.

The ease.
The rhythm.
The flow.

That only returns through repetition.

And I know this is true in sports as well.

Athletes don’t rely on motivation.
They rely on structured repetition in regulated environments.

Miss enough practice, and timing feels off.
Return consistently, and the neural pathways strengthen again.

That’s how the brain works.

Not through pressure.
Not through labeling.
Through repetition.

3.    Rebuild dormant capacity intentionally.
Want to:

Improve emotional regulation?
Strengthen focus?
Build confidence speaking?

Start small.
Short, repeated exposures beat intense, occasional effort.

One of main the reasons that I continue to produce these episodes is because I’ve seen what repetition does.

Over time, speaking consistently into a microphone has strengthened my ability to communicate clearly outside of this podcast. My confidence in meetings, interviews, and presentations has grown — not because I “became more confident” overnight, but because I built the neural circuitry for fluent expression through repetition.

Confidence wasn’t something I waited for.

If you go back to our early episodes, the first 50, you will see that confidence was not there from the beginning. It was something I wired.

That’s one of the unexpected benefits of this podcast.

The skills you build in one environment often transfer to others.

When you practice articulating ideas consistently, you strengthen:
• Verbal fluency
• Emotional regulation under pressure
• Cognitive organization
• Presence

That’s why I encourage anyone — if you feel called — to launch a podcast.

Not because you need an audience.

But because the process will build capacities in you that extend far beyond the microphone.

The brain generalizes repeated skill.

What you practice intentionally in one domain often strengthens performance in many others.

 

4.    For parents & educators
If a child struggles:

Don’t assume inability.
Look at developmental history.
Ask what patterned experiences may be missing.

REMEMBER: Brains are built — not fixed.

5.    For leaders & coaches
High performance isn’t talent alone.
It’s structured repetition in a regulated environment.

That’s how you build:

Motor precision
Decision speed
Emotional control under pressure

“Potential lives in our biology. (Dr. Perry tells us we have tremendous potential in our DNA),
Performance lives in our experiences.
And the difference between the two… is how we develop them.”

🎥 VIDEO CLIP 2 “You Can’t Tell Everybody Everything You Know”
In clip 2, I asked Dr. Perry what it was like writing a book with Oprah, and how he was able to mix in his neuroscientific parts, with her parts that were story-based.

Dr. Bruce Perry explained that one of Oprah Winfrey’s greatest strengths as a communicator is her ability to use stories to convey meaningful concepts. Rather than overwhelming people with facts and dense academic explanations, she draws out personal stories and identifies the single key idea people can remember and apply.

In contrast, academics are often trained to teach through a steady stream of concepts and data, occasionally adding a story. But what Perry learned from Oprah is that effective communication requires restraint. You can’t share everything you know. To truly impact people, you must focus on one core takeaway and resist the temptation to overload them with information.

 🔑 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS CLIP
1.    Stories carry concepts farther than facts alone.
Oprah’s strength, according to Dr. Perry, is her ability to:

Elicit powerful stories
Identify the core concept within them
Help people walk away with one clear takeaway

Stories anchor memory.

2.    Academics default to information overload.
Traditional teaching often follows:
Concept → Fact → Concept → Fact → Concept → Fact

With maybe a small story inserted.

But information density does not equal impact.

3.    You can’t teach everything you know.
This is the most important line.

Trying to share all your knowledge:

Overloads working memory
Reduces retention
Weakens clarity

Depth is more powerful than volume.

4.    Effective communication requires restraint.
To teach well, you must:

Select the core idea
Wrap it in story
Leave space for integration

Restraint is a skill.

🧠 WHAT THIS REALLY MEANS
The brain remembers emotionally relevant narratives.

Story activates:

Emotion
Imagery
Relational circuitry
Meaning-making networks

Facts alone activate cognition.
Stories activate the whole brain.

And learning sticks when multiple systems are engaged.

🧠 TIPS TO PUT THESE IDEAS INTO ACTION
1.    Teach One Core Idea at a Time
Before speaking or writing, ask:
What is the ONE concept I want them to walk away with?

Not three.
Not ten.
One.

2.    Lead With Story, Then Anchor With Science
Instead of:
Concept → Data → More data

Try:
Story → Concept → Application

This mirrors how the brain encodes experience.

3.    Resist the Urge to Prove How Much You Know
Especially for:

Educators
Leaders
Experts
Podcasters

Clarity builds authority more than volume does.

4.    Create “Memory Hooks”
Use:
• Personal experiences
• Case examples
• Metaphors
• Relatable moments

People remember how something felt.
They don’t remember slide 27 of your presentation.

5.    Applying This to Our Work
With This Podcast:

Early on, we leaned heavier into:
Research, frameworks, structure. But as I looked back at some of the video clips from our interviews, I knew that I had forgotten a lot of what we had covered over the years.

So we began our review episodes:

Season 14 showed us what alignment of the research looks like in real life. We looked at goals and mental direction, rewiring the brain, future-ready learning and leadership, self-leadership, which ALL led us to inner alignment.

And now we move into Season 15 that is about understanding how that alignment is built—so we can build it ourselves, using predictable, science-backed principles.

Because alignment doesn’t happen all at once.
It happens by using a sequence.

And when we understand the order of that sequence —
we can replicate it. What better way to replicate something, than with a story.

Dr. Baland Jalal taught us on our last episode how Thomas Edison used his sleep state to generate creative ideas for his work, with a story of how he used to fall asleep and let a spoon drop on a plate to wake him up right at this important creative time in between sleep and wakefulness.

That’s Oprah’s influence in action.

It’s also where I can see my own growth as a communicator with this podcast.

What about you, the listener? Where can you apply Oprah’s story telling concept to solidify ideas you want to bring to life?

 “You can’t tell everybody everything you know.
But you can help them remember what matters.”

 EP 385 Review and Conclusion
Today we were reminded of two foundational truths:

First — we are born with extraordinary potential.
But experience builds expression.

Second — even the most powerful knowledge must be communicated in a way the brain can absorb.

Dr. Perry taught us that:
• The brain is use-dependent.
• Repetition wires capacity.
• Safety precedes skill.

And from Oprah’s influence, we learned:
• Story makes science stick.
• Restraint builds clarity.
• One idea remembered is better than ten forgotten.

This is Phase 1 work.

Regulation.
Rhythm.
Repetition.
Relational safety.

Without those — learning doesn’t land.

The Deeper Season 15 Thread

Season 14 showed us what alignment looks like.

Season 15 is showing us how it’s built.

And today’s episode answers the first critical question in that sequence:

Is the nervous system safe enough to learn?

Because a dysregulated brain cannot:

Build new skill
Sustain attention
Integrate complex ideas
Or retain what’s being taught

That’s why Regulation & Safety come first.

Not motivation.
Not performance.
Not goals.

Safety.

The Listener Reflection

So let me leave you with two questions:

Where in your life have you labeled yourself — instead of assessing exposure to develop more of your genetic capabilities?
Where are you trying to communicate too much — instead of helping someone remember what matters?

Remember:

Potential lives in our biology.
Performance lives in our experiences.

And the difference between the two
is development — built through repetition, regulation, and relationship.

If this episode resonated with you, revisit the clips.
Share the story.
Choose one idea to practice this week.

Because alignment isn’t accidental.

It’s sequential.

And we’re building it — one phase at a time.

I’ll see you next week as we continue Phase 1: Regulation & Safety with

Dr. Sui Wong
Autonomic balance, lifestyle medicine, brain resilience

 

RESOURCES:

Full Interview on YouTube from October 2021 with Dr. Bruce Perry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixOZFwTAtCQ

VIDEO CLIP 1 We are born with potential, experience builds the rest— Dr. Bruce Perry
VIDEO CLIP 2 “You Can’t Tell Everybody Everything You Know”
Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 168 with Dr. Bruce Perry and Steve Graner on “What We Should Know About What Happened to You”  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/dr-bruce-perry-and-steve-graner-from-the-neurosequential-network-on-what-we-should-all-know-about-what-happened-to-you/

REFERENCES:

[i] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 384 “How Learning Begins in the Brain: Sleep, Safety and Curiosity (Revisiting Dr. Baland Jalal) https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/hypnagogic-genius-capture-your-best-ideas-at-the-edge-of-sleep/

 

[ii] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 168 with Dr. Bruce Perry and Steve Graner on “What We Should Know About What Happened to You”  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/dr-bruce-perry-and-steve-graner-from-the-neurosequential-network-on-what-we-should-all-know-about-what-happened-to-you/

 

[iii] What Happened to You: Conversations on Trauma, Resilience and Healing https://www.amazon.com/What-Happened-You-Understanding-Resilience/dp/1250223180

 

[iv]Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 37 with Dr. John Dunlosky on “Improving Student Success: Some Principles from Cognitive Science”   https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/kent-states-dr-john-dunlosky-on-improving-student-success-some-principles-from-cognitive-science/

 

[v]Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 38 with Todd Woodcroft on “The Daily Grind in the NHL”  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/assistant-coach-to-the-winnipeg-jets-todd-woodcroft-on-the-daily-grind-in-the-nhl/

Andrea Samadi revisits a conversation with neuroscientist Dr. Baland Jalal about how curiosity launched his career and how transitional sleep states fuel creativity. The episode explores sleep paralysis research and the hypnagogic window—the moments before sleep and after waking when the brain makes unexpected connections.

This week, Episode 384—based on our review of Episode 224, recorded in June 2022—we’ll explore:

✔ Why learning, creativity, and curiosity depend on a regulated nervous system
✔ How sleep—especially REM—creates the conditions for insight and problem-solving
✔ What happens in the brain when focus shuts down and imagination turns on
✔ Why safety, rhythm, and rest are prerequisites for learning—not rewards after it
✔ How understanding sleep changes the way we approach performance, education, and growth

Listeners learn practical tips for capturing insights at the edge of sleep, setting intentions before bed, and protecting morning silence to preserve creative flashes. The episode emphasizes that learning and creativity emerge best when the nervous system feels safe and regulated.

This episode launches Season 15’s Phase 1 focus on regulation and safety, framing sleep, rhythm, and emotional regulation as the essential foundation for motivation, learning, and sustained performance.

Welcome back to Season 15 of the Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast.

I’m Andrea Samadi, and here we bridge the science behind social and emotional learning, emotional intelligence, and practical neuroscience—so you can create measurable improvements in well-being, achievement, productivity, and results.

When we launched this podcast seven years ago, it was driven by a question I had never been taught to ask—
not in school,
not in business,
and not in life:

If results matter—and they matter now more than ever—how exactly are we using our brain to make these results happen?

Most of us were taught what to do.
Very few of us were taught how to think under pressure,
how to regulate emotion,
how to sustain motivation,
or even how to produce consistent results without burning out.

That question led me into a deep exploration of the mind–brain–results connection—and how neuroscience applies to everyday decisions, conversations, and performance.

That’s why this podcast exists.

Each week, we bring you leading experts to break down complex science and translate it into practical strategies you can apply immediately.

If you’ve been with us through Season 14, you may have felt something shift.

That season wasn’t about collecting ideas.
It was about integrating these ideas into our daily life.

Across conversations on neuroscience, social and emotional learning, sleep, stress, exercise, nutrition, and mindset frameworks—from voices like Bob Proctor, José Silva, Dr. Church, Dr. John Medina, and others—one thing became clear:

These aren’t separate tools.
They’re parts of one operating system.

When the brain, body, and emotions are aligned, performance stops feeling forced—and starts to feel sustainable.

Season 14 showed us what alignment looks like in real life.

And now we move into Season 15 that is about understanding how that alignment is built—so we can build it ourselves, using predictable, science-backed principles.

Because alignment doesn’t happen all at once.
It happens by using a sequence.

By repeating this sequence over and over again, until magically (or predictably) we notice our results have changed.

So this season, we’re revisiting past conversations—not to repeat them—but to understand how they fit together, so we can replicate them ourselves.

Because the brain doesn’t develop skills in isolation.
Learning doesn’t happen in isolation.
And neither does performance, resilience, or well-being.

The brain operates as a set of interconnected systems. When one system is out of balance, everything else is affected.

So Season 15 we’ve organized as a review roadmap, where each episode explores one foundational brain system—and each phase builds on the one before it.

Season 15 Roadmap:

Phase 1 — Regulation & Safety
Phase 2 — Neurochemistry & Motivation
Phase 3 — Movement, Learning & Cognition
Phase 4 — Perception, Emotion & Social Intelligence
Phase 5 — Integration, Insight & Meaning

Today we begin with Phase One: Regulation and Safety.

Because before learning can happen,
before curiosity can emerge,
before motivation or growth is possible—
the brain must feel safe.

That’s where we are today as we embark on this journey together. I encourage us all to take notes, and apply what each phase is encouraging us to do. This is not just for you, the listener, I’m going right back myself, and revisiting each interview with a new lens.

PHASE 1: REGULATION & SAFETY
Staples: Sleep + Stress Regulation
Core Question: Is the nervous system safe enough to learn?

Anchor Episodes

Episode 384 — Baland Jalal
How learning begins: curiosity, sleep, imagination, creativity
Bruce Perry
“What happened to you?” — trauma, rhythm, relational safety
Sui Wong
Autonomic balance, lifestyle medicine, brain resilience
Rohan Dixit
HRV, real-time self-regulation, nervous system literacy

EPISODE 384 — REVIEW OF EP 224 (JUNE 2022)

Revisiting Our Interview with Baland Jalal

Today’s Episode 384 we go back to Episode 224[i], recorded in June 2022, featuring Danish neuroscientist Dr. Baland Jalal—a researcher, author, and one of the world’s leading experts on sleep paralysis.

Dr. Jalal is a neuroscientist affiliated with Harvard University’s Department of Psychology and was previously a Visiting Researcher at Cambridge University Medical School, where he earned his PhD. His work has been featured in The New York Times, Washington Post, BBC, NBC News, The Guardian, Forbes, Reuters, PBS (NOVA), and many others. He also writes for TIME Magazine, Scientific American, Big Think, and The Boston Globe.

Since our original interview, I’ve watched Dr. Jalal’s influence expand globally. Most recently, he appeared on Jordan B. Peterson’s podcast[ii], discussing Dreams, Nightmares, and Neuroscience, and on Lewis Howes’ School of Greatness[iii], where he explored Dreams, Lucid Dreaming, and the Neuroscience of Consciousness—an episode that truly stretched Lewis’s thinking.

What stood out to me most—then and now—was Dr. Jalal’s transparency about learning.

At the beginning of his interview with Lewis Howes, Dr. Jalal shared how a single experience—his desire to understand his own episodes of sleep paralysis more than 20 years ago—sparked a lifelong curiosity. That curiosity led him to his local library in Copenhagen and ultimately transformed his entire career path in ways he could never have imagined as a young man spending time on the streets.

That honesty resonated deeply with me.

Before Google, I remember sitting in a local library in Arizona around that same time, trying to understand the mysteries of the world—from the Great Pyramid of Giza to Stonehenge—reading everything I could get my hands on. Like Dr. Jalal, I was curious about many things I didn’t understand, but my path didn’t start with neuroscience or learning science, which came later for me. We all begin somewhere.

Let’s go to our first clip from Dr. Baland Jalal, where he shares how his love of learning truly began.

🎥 VIDEO CLIP 1 — Where His Love of Learning Began

Before watching this clip, it’s important to listen with perspective. This is the same person who would later be described by the BBC and The Telegraph as “one of the world’s leading experts on sleep paralysis.” But that expertise didn’t begin with certainty—it began with curiosity.

Dr. Jalal said:

“I always hated books. I thought books were so boring. I’d rather hang out in the streets. Then I started to read and found how psychology and the brain were kind of interesting—why we do certain behaviors, why we think a certain way, and how the brain works. I started reading more and more and hanging out at the library instead of in the streets. I was kind of hiding it—I was supposed to be the cool kid. How do you walk with swag and have books? It didn’t fit, but I made it work. I realized that when you actually like the material and what you are doing, you can become really good at it.”

 

🔑 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS CLIP
1. Curiosity Precedes Confidence
Expertise rarely begins with certainty—it begins with a question. Dr. Jalal didn’t set out to become a neuroscientist; he set out to understand his own experiences with sleep paralysis. This mirrors what many of our experts have shared on this podcast. Doug Fisher, for example, once told me he enrolled in medical school classes simply to better understand how the brain learns. Curiosity comes first. As Dr. Jalal explains, the more you learn, the clearer your thinking becomes—and clarity builds confidence naturally.

2. Identity Shifts Are Often Private at First
Real growth often begins quietly, long before others notice. Before the transformation becomes visible, it happens internally—sometimes even in secrecy. Dr. Jalal hid the books he was reading, unsure how his growing interest would be received. I remember doing the exact same thing when I first began studying the brain and learning. I questioned myself constantly: Who was I to explain a topic I hadn’t formally studied in university?
Years later, I’ve read more books on neuroscience than I did during my entire university career. Growth doesn’t ask for permission—it asks for commitment.

3. Intrinsic Motivation Changes the Brain
When learning is driven by genuine interest rather than obligation, engagement deepens, persistence increases, and mastery accelerates. Neuroscience consistently shows that motivation strengthens attention, memory, and long-term retention. I was first handed Brain Rules by John Medina in 2009—nearly a decade before I was ready to fully absorb it. My boss at the time thought I’d enjoy it. She had no idea that this one book (along with a few others) would eventually inspire me to study the brain deeply enough to launch this podcast.

4. You Don’t Need to Start “As an Expert”
Dr. Jalal’s journey reminds us that passion often develops after exposure—not before it. I clearly remember the fear of making mistakes in our early podcast episodes. I didn’t want to admit I was still learning. What’s refreshing—and reassuring—is realizing that we all begin in the same place: with curiosity. It’s the willingness to keep learning that ultimately determines how far we go.

5. Environment Shapes Trajectory
A library, a book, a single moment—small environmental shifts can redirect an entire life. This idea continues to stand out to me. In 1999, during my first visit to New Orleans, I was riding a trolley from Jackson Square through the French Market when I noticed a young boy—maybe 15 years old—reading Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. I’ll never forget the determination on his face. That was decades before I would cover this book on the podcast, but I’m certain that moment shaped his future in ways we’ll never fully see. Learning can take place anywhere when there’s a will behind your desire.

🧠 TIPS TO PUT THESE IDEAS INTO ACTION
1. Follow the Question That Won’t Let You Go
Notice the topic you keep returning to. That recurring curiosity is often your brain pointing you toward growth. For me, it started with the mysteries of the world. Neuroscience and learning came later—but we all start somewhere. Pay attention to what occupies your thoughts when you have some quiet time.

2. Create a Low-Pressure Learning Space
Give yourself permission to learn privately—without posting online, performing, or proving anything to anyone. Learning takes time to organize internally. Journaling or keeping a dedicated notebook helps move ideas from your head onto paper, strengthening your understanding and reflection.

3. Replace “I’m Not Good at This” with “I’m Interested in This”
Interest is a stronger predictor of success than talent. Motivation literally rewires attention and memory networks in the brain. I still remember opening How the Brain Learns by David Sousa, then closing it just as quickly thinking, this is way over my head. Give yourself time. Learning settles in layers.

4. Change One Environment Variable
Spend time where learning naturally happens—libraries, podcasts, books, long-form conversations. Brains adapt to what they’re exposed to repeatedly. Keep your learning time consistent. Over time, as notebooks fill and ideas connect, you’ll be amazed how much this simple daily habit compounds.

5. Let Identity Catch Up Later
You don’t need to call yourself a “scientist,” “leader,” or “expert” today. Keep learning—the identity will follow. I initially called myself a researcher. It took years before I felt comfortable adding “neuroscience researcher.” That word once felt intimidating. Now it fits—because the work came first.

I hope Dr. Jalal’s first clip has inspired you to notice what’s been quietly calling your attention—and to take the first step toward becoming an expert in that area by simply beginning.

🎥 VIDEO CLIP 2 — Hypnagogic Sleep, Insight, and Creativity

 

In our second video clip with Baland Jalal, he takes us into a stage of sleep I’ve been fascinated by since my 20s—hypnagogic sleep. This is the transitional brain state that occurs just before we drift off to sleep, or in those brief moments when we’ve just woken up.

We talk about this around the 30-minute mark in our interview, where I shared that years ago I asked a sleep expert why I was seeing what I can only describe as “flashes of insight” on the screen of my mind—right before falling asleep and again upon waking. That expert told me to study the term hypnagogic sleep.

Dr. Jalal took this idea a step further by explaining that this is not just a strange or fleeting state—but a highly creative brain state.

He explains that during REM sleep, certain neurotransmitters—such as noradrenaline, which helps keep us focused and goal-directed during waking life—are significantly reduced. With those “focus chemicals” turned down, the brain becomes far more open to connecting unrelated ideas, thinking expansively, and solving problems in novel ways.

Dr. Jalal even references Thomas Edison, who famously used this state intentionally. Edison would sit in a chair holding a spoon, with a metal plate underneath. As he drifted toward sleep, the moment he lost consciousness, the spoon would fall, wake him up, and allow him to capture ideas that surfaced in that brief window of awareness.

This hypnagogic state—those few seconds between waking and sleeping—is a sweet spot for creativity, insight, and innovation.

🔑 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS CLIP

Hypnagogic Sleep Is a Gateway State
The moments just before sleep and just after waking are neurologically unique. The brain is not fully awake or asleep, making it more flexible and imaginative.
Reduced Focus Enables Creativity
When neurotransmitters like noradrenaline decrease, the brain becomes less rigid and more associative—allowing ideas to connect in unexpected ways.
Insight Often Comes When Control Loosens
Creativity doesn’t always come from intense focus. Sometimes it emerges when the brain is allowed to wander without pressure.
This State Can Be Accessed Intentionally
Visionaries like Thomas Edison didn’t wait for inspiration—they designed conditions to access it deliberately.
Many “Aha” Moments Live Here
Those flashes of insight you experience before sleep or upon waking are not random—they’re a byproduct of how the brain reorganizes information during this state.

🧠 TIPS TO PUT THESE IDEAS INTO ACTION
1. Capture Ideas at the Edge of Sleep
Keep a notebook or voice memo next to your bed. If an idea surfaces just before sleep or immediately upon waking, capture it right away—don’t trust yourself to remember it later.

REMEMBER:
“Ideas are like slippery fish. If you don’t gaff them on the end of a pen, they swim away quickly, never to be seen again.”
— Earl Nightingale

Many ideas that arrive during this highly creative state won’t make sense in the moment. Write them down anyway. What feels fragmented today may reveal meaning weeks—or even months—later.

2. Set an Intention Before Sleep
Before drifting off, gently focus on a question or problem you’d like insight on. Don’t force an answer. Simply invite your brain to explore it while you rest. Often, clarity emerges when effort steps aside.

3. Protect the Wake-Up Window
Resist the urge to grab your phone the moment you wake up. Give yourself one or two quiet minutes to notice lingering images, ideas, or thoughts before your analytical mind takes over. This brief window can hold surprising insight.

4. Allow Unfocused Thinking Time
Creativity thrives when the brain isn’t under constant demand. Build in moments of mental looseness—walks, quiet reflection, stillness, or even stepping away for lunch.

I’ll never forget when I worked in the seminar industry. During our busiest selling days, my colleague Mark would insist we take a lunch break and go out to eat—often to the same sushi restaurant down the street. Every time we returned, without fail, there would be a new sale waiting on the fax machine (this was back when fax ruled). We became convinced that stepping away from the work was part of what allowed the result to arrive.

5. Trust the Subconscious Process
Some of your best ideas won’t come through effort, but through space. Learning to work with your brain’s natural rhythms—rather than against them—can dramatically expand creative output. Whether it’s on a walk, in the shower, through journaling, or during moments of stillness, give your subconscious room to surface what it already knows.

🔍 EP 384 — REVIEW & CONCLUSION
As we wrap up Episode 384, revisiting our 2022 conversation with Baland Jalal, what stands out most to me is not just what we learned about sleep, dreams, or creativity—but how learning itself unfolds over time.

In our first clip, we saw how Dr. Jalal’s entire career began not with certainty or credentials, but with curiosity. A single question—Why is this happening to me?—led him from the streets of Copenhagen to the library, and eventually to becoming one of the world’s leading experts on sleep paralysis. His story is a reminder that expertise is not something you decide in advance; it’s something that emerges when curiosity is given space to grow.

In our second clip, we explored the hypnagogic state—that brief window between waking and sleeping where the brain loosens its grip on focus and control. In this state, insight becomes possible not because we try harder, but because we try less. Creativity, problem-solving, and expansive thinking emerge when the brain is allowed to wander, connect, and reorganize information in new ways.

Together, these clips tell a powerful story:

Learning begins with curiosity
Growth often happens quietly and privately
Creativity emerges when we allow space instead of pressure
And some of our most meaningful ideas arrive when we stop forcing them

This is why conversations like this continue to matter years later. Not because the science has changed—but because we have.

If there’s one takeaway from today’s episode, it’s this:
You don’t need to know where your curiosity will lead. You only need to honor it long enough to begin.

Whether your insights arrive in a library, during a walk, just before sleep, or in the quiet moments you usually rush past—pay attention. Write them down. Give them time.

Because learning doesn’t always announce itself loudly.
Sometimes, it whispers—right before we fall asleep, or just as we wake up.

And that’s where the next chapter often begins.

As we close today’s episode, I want to leave you with one simple idea to carry forward.

Before the brain can learn,
before curiosity can expand,
before imagination or growth can take hold—
the nervous system has to feel safe.

What Dr. Baland Jalal helped us see today is that sleep, rhythm, and regulation aren’t “nice to have.” They’re the entry point.

When the brain is rested and regulated, it becomes curious.
When it isn’t, it stays in survival mode—no matter how motivated or capable we are.

This is where Phase One of Season 15 truly begins.

Because regulation isn’t about fixing what’s broken.
It’s about creating the conditions where learning becomes possible.

Next week, in Episode 385, we’ll deepen this conversation with Dr. Bruce Perry—one of the world’s leading experts on trauma, brain development, and relational safety.

His work reminds us that when we ask “What’s wrong with you?” we miss the real question.

“What happened to you?”

We’ll explore how rhythm, relationships, and safety shape the developing brain—and why understanding this changes how we approach education, leadership, parenting, and performance.

So as you move into the coming week, notice this:

Where does your nervous system feel supported?
And where might it still be asking for safety?

Because everything we’ll build in this season—motivation, learning, resilience, and insight—rests on this foundation.

I’ll see you next week for Episode 385.

RESOURCES:

Watch our full interview on YouTube here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE15JIqy5rU

🎥 VIDEO CLIP 1 — Where His Love of Learning Began

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pfKGZMZ2X5Q

🎥 VIDEO CLIP 2 — Hypnagogic Sleep, Insight, and Creativity

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IA-_UAwewzg

 

REFERENCES:

 

[i] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 224 with Dr. Baland Jalal on “Sleep Paralysis, Lucid Dreaming and Premonitions” https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/harvard-neuroscientist-drbaland-jalalexplainssleepparalysislucid-dreaming-andpremonitionsexpandingour-awareness-into-the-mysteries-ofourbrainduring-sl/

 

[ii] The Jordan B Peterson Podcast with Dr. Baland Jalal  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_seRpqUJDo

 

[iii] Dr. Baland Jalal with Lewis Howes on The School of Greatness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp5izIYNZas

Episode 383 applies Napoleon Hill’s timeless principles to sales, showing how decision, persistence, and the mastermind turn inner preparation into consistent results.

Learn practical, neuroscience-backed actions to make clear decisions, sustain effort through resistance, and multiply success by aligning with the right people.

Welcome back to Season 15 of The Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast — where we bridge the science behind social and emotional learning, emotional intelligence, and practical neuroscience to create measurable improvements in well-being, achievement, productivity, and results.

I’m Andrea Samadi.

And seven years ago, when we launched this podcast, it was driven by a question I had never been taught to ask — either in school, in business, or in life:

If productivity and results matter — and they matter now more than ever — how exactly are we using our brain to make them happen?

Most of us were never taught how to work with our brain instead of against it. We were taught what to do — but not how to think, decide, persist, or align with others in ways that produce consistent results.

That question pulled me into a decade-long exploration of the mind–brain–results connection — and how neuroscience can be applied to everyday decisions, conversations, and performance.

That’s why this podcast exists.

Each week, I bring you the world’s leading experts so we can break down complex science — and turn it into practical strategies you can apply immediately for predictable, science-backed outcomes.

And that brings us to today’s Episode 383 — where we are going back to reconnect to a powerful 6-part series we originally recorded in 2022 around a book that has shaped achievement for generations: Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill.

Connecting Back to Our 6-Part Think and Grow Rich Series[i]

We used that book as a framework to launch our year, back in 2022, walking chapter by chapter through the principles my mentor, Bob Proctor, studied for over 50 years of his life. Not casually. Not occasionally. But as a daily discipline for creating results — in business, health, relationships, and purpose.

That 6-part series was about the basics — the inner mechanics that govern all achievement. And those basics still matter just as much today.

What we’re doing now is not revisiting this material because it’s old.

We’re revisiting it because it’s timeless.

PART 3 — From Decision to Momentum
Decision • Persistence • The Power of the Mastermind

In Part 3 today, of our Think and Grow Rich for Sales study, we move from inner preparation to outer execution.

Up to this point, the earlier chapters have shaped belief, certainty, vision, and authority. But results are not created by preparation alone. They are created when inner mastery is followed by decisive action, sustained effort, and collective intelligence.

This is where most people stall—and where sales mastery is forged.

Decision
We begin with Decision, the moment where intention becomes irreversible.
Indecision leaks certainty. Decision creates momentum.

Successful people decide quickly and change course slowly. In sales, this means committing to your value, your process, and your outcome before the conversation begins—so hesitation never enters the room.

Persistence
Next comes Persistence, the force that carries decisions through resistance, delay, and rejection. Persistence is not intensity—it is refusal to quit when progress is invisible.

In sales, persistence keeps conversations alive, turns “no” into information, and allows momentum to compound long after others have disengaged.

The Power of the Mastermind
Finally, we arrive at The Power of the Mastermind—where individual effort becomes exponential.

When two or more minds unite in harmony around a definite purpose, a third force emerges: clarity, creativity, and certainty launch beyond individual thinking. This chapter reveals why no great achievement—and no sustained sales success—is built alone.

Decision commits you.
Persistence carries you.
The Mastermind multiplies you.

Together, these three principles turn vision into execution and effort into inevitable results.
EP 383 — Think and Grow Rich for Sales where we’re applying those same principles through a very specific lens — one I’ve wanted to explore for a long time.

Sales.

Not sales as tactics.
Not sales as scripts.
But sales as the external expression of inner mastery.

Because here’s the truth:

You don’t need to be in sales for these principles to work —
but if you are in sales, they become a powerful advantage.

Why Part 3 Matters
Today we’re covering Decision, Persistence, and The Power of the Mastermind — the principles that separate intention from execution.

Up until now in this series, (PART 1 and PART 2) we’ve been building the inner foundation:

Thought
Desire
Faith
Autosuggestion
Specialized Knowledge
Imagination
Organized Planning

Those chapters shape belief, certainty, authority, and vision.

But Part 3 is where things get real.

Because:

Decision is where hesitation ends.
Persistence is where most people quit.
The Mastermind is where momentum multiplies.

This is the phase where inner mastery must turn into consistent action, even when results are delayed, resistance appears, or confidence wavers.

How the 6-Part Series Maps Directly to Sales Mastery
Every principle we covered in 2022 becomes a sales advantage when applied intentionally.

Each chapter:

Upgrades your inner state
Shapes how you show up in conversations
Influences the certainty others feel around you
And determines whether opportunities compound… or stall

That’s why this series is called:

Think and Grow Rich for Sales
How Inner Mastery Becomes Sales Results
Inspired by Think and Grow Rich — through a modern neuroscience + sales lens

So today, as we move into Decision, Persistence, and The Power of the Mastermind, ask yourself one question:

Where in your life — or your sales process — have you been preparing…
but not fully deciding?

Because once a decision is made —
and backed by persistence and you’ve got the right people to support you —
everything begins to move.

Let’s begin PART 3.

Chapter VIII: Decision

Core Idea
Decision is the moment where intention becomes irreversible.
Success is not delayed by lack of ability, knowledge, or opportunity—it is delayed by indecision. Those who succeed decide quickly, commit fully, and change course slowly.

In sales (and life), certainty follows decision, not the other way around.

 

Sales Application

Decide before the call who you are, what you stand for, and the value you bring. This starts with you on the inside, and reflects to others on the outside.
Eliminate hesitation by committing to the outcome, not the comfort
Stop outsourcing decisions to opinions, objections, or fear of rejection
Make decisions promptly, then execute consistently without reopening the question
Understand that most stalled deals are not about price or timing—they’re about your certainty

When you (as the leader) decide fully:

Your tone steadies
Your message sharpens
Your presence communicates leadership

Buyers feel that decisiveness immediately.

Listener Takeaway
Indecision leaks certainty. Decision creates forward momentum.

You don’t get stuck because you chose the wrong path.
You get stuck because you never fully chose one at all.

Once a decision is made—and all other options are removed—behavior aligns, confidence follows, and results begin to compound.

 

The Moment Where Commitment Creates Momentum

Napoleon Hill opens Chapter 8 on Decision with a striking conclusion drawn from an accurate analysis of over 25,000 men and women who had experienced failure:

“Lack of decision was near the head of the list of the 30 major causes of failure.”
(CH 8, p. 157, Think and Grow Rich)

Hill is clear—this is not theory. It is fact. Those who succeed, he explains, “had the habit of reaching decisions promptly and of changing these decisions slowly, if and when they were changed.” (CH 8, p. 157)

In contrast, those who fail hesitate, (have you ever heard a LEADER say “I don’t know?) NEVER! They never second-guess, or remain trapped in indecision—and others often mistake their delay for being cautious.

Decision Is a Habit, Not a Moment

Hill points to Henry Ford as a living example of decisiveness in action. One of Ford’s most outstanding qualities, Hill writes, was “his habit of reaching decisions quickly and definitely, and changing them slowly.” (CH 8, p. 158)

This distinction matters. Successful people are not reckless—but once they decide, they commit. They do not constantly reopen the question. They move forward.

Hill challenges the reader directly:

“You have a brain and mind of your own. Use it, and reach your own decisions.”
(CH 8, p. 159)

Indecision, he argues, is often the result of allowing the opinions of others to dilute our own thinking. The more people we consult, the more fragmented our certainty becomes.

Decision Requires Courage

Decision, by its nature, demands courage. Hill reminds us that “the great decisions which served as the foundation of civilization were reached by assuming great risks.” (CH 8, p. 160)

History is filled with individuals who stepped forward before there was certainty—people who acted without guarantees, yet changed the course of their lives and the world.

This truth resonated deeply with me years ago, before I made the decision to move from Toronto to the United States. Around that time, I purchased a poster that still hangs in my office today. It’s on the top of my bookshelf, to the right of my desk in my field of view. At the top of this picture is the word COURAGE, followed by a poem attributed to Johann Wolfgang von Goethe: The poster says-

*“The moment one definitely commits oneself, then Providence moves too.
All sorts of things occur to help one that would never otherwise have occurred.
A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one’s favor all manner of unforeseen incidents and meetings and material assistance,
which no man could have dreamed would have come his way. Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. Begin it now.”

Make your decisions and NEVER look back.

Closing Thought — Chapter VIII: Decision
Clarity does not come before the decision.
Clarity comes because of the decision.

The moment you decide—fully, cleanly, and without retreat—your behavior changes, your energy stabilizes, and your certainty becomes visible to others. That certainty is what moves conversations forward, closes deals, and creates momentum.

Indecision keeps you negotiating with fear.
Decision puts you back in leadership.

Once a decision is made, the path begins to reveal itself—and persistence becomes possible.

And that’s where we’re headed next.

Chapter IX: Persistence

The Force That Turns Intention Into Inevitability

Core Idea
Persistence is the sustained application of will over time.
It is not intensity. It is not motivation. It is refusal to quit when progress is invisible. This is where we need our belief, our faith and imagination to come into play.

Napoleon Hill describes persistence as “to character, what carbon is to steel.” (CH 9, p. 178, TAGR) Without it, even the strongest ideas collapse. With it, ordinary effort becomes extraordinary.

Those who succeed are often misunderstood—not because they are reckless, but because they are unwilling to stop. Hill writes that successful people are often seen as “cold-blooded or ruthless,” when in reality, “what they have is willpower, which they mix with persistence.” (CH 9, p. 175)

Persistence is the bridge between decision and the results that you attain.

Sales Application
In sales, persistence is not pressure—it is professional resolve.

Persistence keeps you in the conversation after the first “no”
It transforms rejection into information to uncover more
It replaces emotional reaction with strategic and timely follow-up
It conditions you to ask better questions instead of walking away

A persistent salesperson does not hear “no” as rejection—they hear it as:

“Not now”
“Not this way”
“Not with this information”

So they ask:

What changed?
What would need to be true for this to move forward?
Is timing, budget, or authority the real obstacle?

Persistence is what allows a salesperson to:

Maintain relationships when deals stall
To be able to re-enter conversations when conditions change
Be remembered when others disappear

Without persistence, opportunities die quietly.
With persistence, doors reopen.

Strengthening Your Persistence Muscle
Persistence is not a personality trait—it is a trained discipline.

One of the most powerful exercises I learned while working with Bob Proctor was designed specifically to build persistence into habit.

The assignment was simple:

Read Chapter 9 Persistence from Think and Grow Rich — every day, for 14 days in a row.
Miss one day? You start over at Day 1.

Years later, in 2019, Paul Martinelli issued the same challenge to me. I thought it would be easy. It wasn’t.

Life intervenes.
Schedules shift.
Distractions will appear during your reading time.

One morning, as I was reading early in my office, one of my kids came in not feeling well. I put the book down to help her. The day began—and I missed the chapter.

What happened next mattered:
I had to remove something else from my schedule to stay committed.

That’s the lesson.

Persistence isn’t tested when things are convenient.
It’s tested when something reasonable tries to knock it off course.

Try this challenge yourself.
Track every day.
Notice what shows up to distract you.

You’ll learn more about yourself in those 14 days than you ever could have expected.

Listener Takeaway
Persistence compounds quietly.

It doesn’t announce itself.
It doesn’t feel dramatic.
But over time, it becomes unbeatable.

Most people stop just before momentum begins.

Persistence is staying in motion long enough for the tide to turn.

When to Let Go
Persistence is not stubbornness.

There are moments when walking away is appropriate—but only after your best effort has been applied.

My Dad used to say: “Andrea, what’s for you won’t go by you.”

I’ve found that to be true.

When persistence has been honored—when you’ve shown up fully, asked the hard questions, followed through consistently—clarity eventually arrives.

Sometimes the answer is not yet.
Sometimes it’s not this.
Sometimes it’s something better.

Force negates.
Persistence clarifies.

Final Thought — Chapter IX: Persistence
Persistence is not heroic in the moment.
It is heroic in hindsight.

It is the quiet decision to show up again—
to follow through again—
to believe again—
long after most people would have stopped.

Without persistence, talent fades.
With persistence, effort compounds.

And once persistence is in place,
the power of the Mastermind becomes unstoppable.

That’s where we go next.

Chapter X: The Power of the Mastermind

Why Sales Is Never a Solo Game
Collective intelligence multiplies results.

Core Idea
A Mastermind is not a meeting.
It is not networking.
It is not collaboration for convenience.

A Mastermind is the creation of a third force.

Napoleon Hill defines it clearly:

“No two minds ever come together without thereby creating a third, invisible, intangible force that may be likened to a third mind.”
(CH 10, p. 195, Think and Grow Rich)

This chapter reveals that achievement accelerates when two or more minds unite in harmony around a definite purpose. What emerges is a form of collective intelligence—greater than any one individual’s thinking.

Hill calls this power:

“The Master Mind may be defined as coordinated knowledge and effort, in a spirit of harmony, between two or more people, for the attainment of a definite purpose.”
(CH 10, p. 195)

This is where vision gains momentum—and plans finally move.

Sales Application
In sales, the Mastermind is a force multiplier.

It sharpens thinking beyond individual blind spots
It accelerates problem-solving when deals stall
It stabilizes certainty when confidence wavers
It prevents isolation, which quietly erodes persistence

Sales is often practiced alone—but mastery is built together.

High-performing sales professionals:

Test ideas with trusted thinking partners
Debrief losses without ego
Share language, patterns, objections, and breakthroughs
Borrow certainty when needed—and lend it when others falter

When you bring your challenges into the right room, clarity emerges faster.

As Hill reminds us:

“Plans are inert and useless without sufficient power to translate them into action.”
(CH 10, p. 193)

The Mastermind is that power.

Why the Mastermind Works
Hill explains this principle through energy:

“The human mind is a form of energy.”
(CH 10, p. 196)

When minds align, energy compounds.

I first felt this power in May of 2001, working in the seminar industry, listening to the late Doug Wead speak on what he called “The Third-Party Principle.” He described it as a triple-braided cord—a force formed when two or more people come together around a shared aim.

If you’ve ever been part of a true Mastermind, you know the feeling:

Ideas flow differently
Certainty increases
Problems shrink
Creativity replaces competition

You don’t leave the same way you arrived.

Listener Takeaway
You do not need to be the smartest person in the room.
You need to be in the right room.

Progress accelerates when you stop trying to think your way forward alone.

One plus one does not equal two.
In a Mastermind, one plus one equals three.

Have you ever felt this? The creation of a third mind, when speaking with two or more people? It’s a powerful experience.

How to Create Your Own Mastermind
WHO to Invite

People who share your values and beliefs
People who think differently than you
People who challenge assumptions without attacking identity

Hill even notes:

“Some of the best sources for creating your own Mastermind are your own employees.”
(CH 10, p. 200)

Seek harmony, not sameness.

WHEN to Meet

Commit to a consistent cadence (monthly or quarterly)
Meet for at least one year
Treat it as non-negotiable

Momentum requires continuity.

WHAT to Notice
Over time, you’ll observe:

A calm certainty replacing mental noise
Creativity emerging where frustration once lived
New pathways revealed where you saw roadblocks

Others will see progress when you see obstacles.
That’s the power.

Historical Proof
Hill reminds us:

“Henry Ford began his business career under the handicap of poverty, illiteracy, and ignorance…”
(CH 10, p. 197)

Ford’s most rapid growth began when he aligned with Thomas Edison.

Modern examples echo the same truth:

Bill Gates
Steve Jobs
Jeff Bezos

None built alone. All relied on thinking partners.

Final Thought — Chapter X: The Power of the Mastermind
No great achievement is the result of isolated brilliance.

It is the result of aligned minds, sustained harmony, and shared purpose.

Decision commits you.
Persistence carries you.
But the Mastermind multiplies you.

When the right minds come together,
progress no longer depends on force—
it becomes inevitable.

And with that, the formula is complete.

🧠 ACTION FRAMEWORK:
DECISION • PERSISTENCE • MASTERMIND WITH THE BRAIN IN MIND
1️⃣ DECISION — Create Certainty Before Action
Neuroscience Insight:
The brain seeks certainty. Indecision keeps the nervous system in a threat state. Decision stabilizes energy and frees cognitive bandwidth.

Action Steps for Sales People:

Before each sales call, meeting, or important conversation:

Write down one clear outcome you are committed to
Decide in advance how you will show up (calm, certain, curious)

Remove “maybe” language from your self-talk:

Replace “Let’s see how this goes” with “I will lead this conversation.”

Once a decision is made, do not reopen it emotionally — execute and adjust only with data.

Daily Practice (2 minutes):

“What am I deciding today that I’ve been postponing?”  With time and practice, you will learn to make your own decisions quickly.

2️⃣ PERSISTENCE — Train Follow-Through, Not Emotion
Neuroscience Insight:
Persistence strengthens the prefrontal cortex and reduces emotional reactivity. It is a skill — not a personality trait.

Action Steps for Sales:

Track follow-ups instead of outcomes
Decide in advance how many touchpoints you will commit to before disengaging
Treat “no” as feedback, not failure: It’s not personal.

Ask better questions instead of retreating

14-Day Persistence Drill (Bob Proctor Style):

Read Chapter 9 Persistence every day for 14 days
Miss one day? Restart
Notice what interferes — that’s where growth lives

Daily Question:

“What does staying in motion look like today?”

3️⃣ THE MASTERMIND — Borrow and Lend Certainty
Neuroscience Insight:
Aligned thinking increases cognitive flexibility, reduces stress, and accelerates insight. Isolation weakens persistence.

Action Steps for Sales:

Identify 1–3 people you can think with, not perform for
Meet once a month for one year — non-negotiable
Structure meetings around:

Challenges
Questions
Pattern recognition

Share failures early — clarity accelerates faster there

Weekly Question:

“Who helps me see what I can’t see alone?”

REVIEW & CONCLUSION — EP 383 (PART 3)
As we wrap up Part 3 of our Think and Grow Rich for Sales study, it’s important to see what just happened — not just in this episode, but across the entire framework.

Because this was never a sales series about tactics.
It was a mastery series about who you become before results show up.

Everything we’ve covered — from Thought to the Mastermind — follows one clear progression:

Inner state always precedes outer results.

🔹 CONNECTING ALL THE CHAPTERS
It began with Thought — because every result starts as a mental pattern.

Thought shaped Desire — a clear, emotionally charged aim that we have.

Desire required Faith — belief in yourself and in the outcome before evidence appeared.

Faith was reinforced through Autosuggestion — the language and inner dialogue that programs our certainty.

That certainty was anchored by Specialized Knowledge — not scattered information, but organized expertise.

Expertise activated Imagination — the ability to see outcomes before they exist.

Vision became real through Organized Planning — turning intention into structure.

But none of that produces results until something critical happens.

You decide.

As we close Part 3 — and this Think and Grow Rich for Sales study — I want to leave you with one final reminder:

Results don’t come from knowing more.

They come from deciding, persisting, and thinking with the right people long enough for momentum to form.

Decision commits you.
Persistence carries you.
And the Mastermind multiplies you.

These principles aren’t motivational — they’re neurological.
They stabilize your nervous system.
They sharpen your thinking.
And they create certainty that others can feel.

🔹 WHY PART 3 IS THE TURNING POINT OF THIS ENTIRE STUDY?
Decision is where preparation ends and commitment begins.

Persistence is what keeps that decision alive when feedback is delayed, resistance appears, or confidence wavers.

And The Mastermind ensures you never have to carry certainty alone.

This is the moment the inner world becomes visible.

This is where belief becomes behavior.
Where confidence becomes tone.
Where preparation becomes momentum.

Part 3 doesn’t add new ideas.
It activates everything that came before it.

Thought creates direction.
Desire gives it fuel.
Faith stabilizes belief.
Autosuggestion conditions certainty.
Knowledge builds authority.
Imagination reveals possibility before your eyes can see it.
Planning creates structure.

Decision commits you.
Persistence carries you.
And the Mastermind multiplies you.

That’s the formula.

As we close Part 3, remember this:

You don’t need to be perfect.
You don’t need to be fearless.
You just need to decide — and stay in motion — with the right people beside you.

Preparation without decision stalls.
Effort without persistence fades.
And success without others rarely sustains.

This is sales mastery at its highest level:
The transfer of certainty.

Thank you for walking through this 3 PART series with me.

I’ll see you next week — where we continue turning neuroscience into results as we continue our reviews of past interviews.

As we wrap up Part 3 of our review, remember:
You don’t need to be perfect.
You don’t need to be fearless.
You just need to decide — and stay in motion — with the right people beside you.

Preparation without decision stalls.
Effort without persistence fades.
And success without others rarely sustains.

Thank you for walking through this series with me.
I’ll see you in the next season — where we continue turning science into results.

RESOURCES

 

Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 381 PART 1  “The Inner Foundation of Sales Mastery: Why Thought, Desire and Faith Create Results” https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/think-and-grow-rich-for-sales-from-thought-to-close/

Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 382 PART 2 “Sales Mastery from the Inside Out: Autosuggestion, Authority, Imagination and Execution” https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/auto-suggestion-to-authority-turning-inner-scripts-into-sales-wins/

REFERENCES

[i] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE #190 PART 1 “Making 2022 Your Best Year Ever”  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/think-and-grow-rich-book-review-part-1-how-to-make-2022-your-best-year-ever/

Season 14, Episode 382 reviews chapters 4–7 of Think and Grow Rich for Sales, showing how autosuggestion, specialized knowledge, imagination, and organized planning transform inner belief into consistent sales results.

This episode explains practical steps to program confidence, build authority, paint future outcomes for buyers, and design repeatable sales systems that create certainty and close deals more naturally.

Today EP 382 PART 2 of our Think and Grow Rich for Sales Series, we will cover:

✔ Chapter 4: Autosuggestion: How Your Inner Script Becomes Your Outer Results 

Sales Application (Practical Use)

Pre-call priming: Speak your outcome out loud before every call (“I bring clarity and certainty to this conversation.”)

Language audit: Eliminate soft phrases (“I think,” “hopefully,” “maybe”) from your sales vocabulary.

Repetition builds belief: Read your sales goals twice daily as if already achieved.

Emotion matters: Read goals with feeling—belief is emotional, not intellectual.

Interrupt negative mindsets: Replace “They won’t buy” with “I help people make confident decisions.”

Consistency over intensity: Daily repetition beats occasional motivation.

Key Insight: Belief is built deliberately, not accidentally.

✔ Chapter 5: Specialized Knowledge: From Information to Authority 

5 Sales Application Tips

Organize your expertise into simple frameworks buyers can easily follow.

Know their world better than they do—pain points, language, pressures, timing.

Stop overloading: Say less, but say it with authority.

Borrow brilliance: Use mentors, subject experts, and masterminds to extend your knowledge.

Teach while you sell: Authority grows when you help buyers understand, not when you impress them.

Key Insight: You are not selling information. You are selling guidance.
✔ Chapter 6: Imagination: Where Sales Innovation Is Born

7 Sales Application Tips

Paint the “after” picture: Describe life, work, or outcomes post-solution.

Use sensory language: Help them see, feel, and experience the result.

Rehearse success aloud: Walk the buyer through implementation as if it’s already happening.

Normalize the decision: Familiarity reduces fear and resistance.

Tell transformation stories: Stories activate imagination faster than facts.

Slow the moment down: Imagination needs space—don’t rush the close.

Anchor certainty visually: “Imagine six months from now…” becomes a mental commitment.

Key Insight: People don’t buy solutions. They buy who they become after the solution.
✔ Chapter 7: Organized Planning: Putting Desire Into Action

6 Sales Application Tips

Create a repeatable sales process you trust and follow consistently.

Plan the work—then work the plan, even when results lag.

Refine the plan, not the goal when setbacks occur.

Prepare for objections before they arise—confidence comes from readiness.

Track behaviors, not just outcomes (calls, follow-ups, conversations).

Use structure to eliminate emotion-based decisions during the sales cycle.

Key Insight: A plan creates certainty. Certainty creates momentum.
Welcome back to our final series of SEASON 14 of The Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast, where we connect the science-based evidence behind social and emotional learning and emotional intelligence training for improved well-being, achievement, productivity and results—using what I saw as the missing link (since we weren’t taught this when we were growing up in school), the application of practical neuroscience.

I’m Andrea Samadi, and seven years ago, launched this podcast with a question I had never truly asked myself before: (and that is) If productivity and results matter to us—and they do now more than ever—how exactly are we using our brain to make them happen?

Most of us were never taught how to apply neuroscience to improve productivity, results, or well-being. About a decade ago, I became fascinated by the mind-brain-results connection—and how science can be applied to our everyday lives.

That’s why I’ve made it my mission to bring you the world’s top experts—so together, we can explore the intersection of science and social-emotional learning. We’ll break down complex ideas and turn them into practical strategies we can use every day for predictable, science-backed results.

Connecting Back to Our 6-Part Think and Grow Rich Series (2022)

For today’s EP 382, we continue with PART 2 of our Review of Think and Grow Rich for Sales, connecting back to our 6-PART Series from 2022[i].

Back in 2022, we didn’t just read Think and Grow Rich—we lived inside it as we launched our year.

Over a 6-part series that began the beginning of January 2022, we walked through this book chapter by chapter, not as theory, but as a personal operating system for growth, performance, and results.

At the time, the focus of our 6 PART Series was broad. We covered:

Personal development
Mindset mastery
Vision, purpose, and belief

We covered the BASICS of this book that my mentor, Bob Proctor studied for his entire lifetime (over 50 years) that can be applied to whatever it is that you want to create with our life. Today, we are going to look at this timeless piece of knowledge, through a new lens. What we’re covering today—PART 2 of our Study of Think and Grow Rich for Sales—is not new material.

It’s the application of this series, towards a specific discipline. You could apply this book to any discipline, but this one, I have wanted to cover for a very long time.

How the 6-Part Series Maps DIRECTLY to Sales Mastery

Here’s the reframe that matters:

Every principle we covered in 2022 becomes a sales advantage when applied correctly. Each of the 10 chapters explains how to further improve our inner state, and then we walk through how to make this change occur in our outer world, connecting each principal for the salesperson. And just a reminder that you don’t need to be in sales for these principles to work for us.

Think and Grow Rich for Sales
How Inner Mastery Becomes Sales Results
Inspired by Think and Grow Rich
Through a modern neuroscience + sales lens

 

Chapter IV: Autosuggestion

The Inner Script Behind Every Sales Call
Core Idea:
Your subconscious mind is always selling—either for you or against you.

Sales Application:

Language patterns that leak doubt
Why we program confidence before the call
Why tone matters more than technique

Listener Takeaway:

The buyer responds to your energy, not your words.

Chapter IV — Autosuggestion
How Your Inner Script Becomes Your Outer Results
Autosuggestion is the bridge between what you think and what you experience.

I first learned this concept while working with Bob Proctor in the seminar industry, and it fundamentally changed the way I understand my own personal results—both in life and in sales.

At its core, autosuggestion is about creating order in the mind, (first) so your inner script consistently produces your outer results.

The visual model that explains this in one simple view is the stickperson diagram, originally developed by Dr. Thurman Fleet in 1934. You’ll see this image in the show notes, labeled A, B, and C. Here is what this diagram means.

The Three Parts of the Mind

IMAGE IDEA: From Dr. Thurman Fleet 1937 with his idea of Concept Therapy.

A — Conscious Mind (Thinking Mind)
This is the part of your mind you use when you are actively thinking:

reading
studying
learning
solving problems
consciously making decisions

This is where logic lives.

B — Non-Conscious Mind (Emotional Mind)
This is the most powerful part of the mind—and the most misunderstood.

The non-conscious mind:

accepts whatever enters it
does not judge truth from falsehood
operates primarily through repetition and emotion

This is why:

who you surround yourself with matters
what you listen to matters
what you repeatedly tell yourself matters

Your non-conscious mind becomes the program that runs your behavior.

C — Body
The body is the instrument of the mind.

Your body inherits what your mind expresses:

thoughts affect emotions
emotions affect physiology
physiology affects behavior and results

This is why mindset impacts:

health
energy
confidence
performance

And why our thoughts, feelings and actions ultimately determine our results. They create our conditions, our circumstances and our environment.

Why Autosuggestion Matters (Real Life Example)
Because I learned this before I had children, I became extremely intentional about what was playing in the background of our home.

News, negativity, and fear-based messaging go straight into the non-conscious mind—especially when the mind is in a submissive state, such as:

early childhood (when your mind is wide open)
right before sleep
also while eating
when relaxed or emotionally open

This state of mind doesn’t just affect children.
It affects adults too.

What we repeatedly hear becomes how we feel—and eventually how we act.

This is why autosuggestion is not wishful thinking.
It is mental conditioning.

Autosuggestion and Alignment (Praxis)
When your thoughts, feelings and emotions are aligned, you enter a state called praxis—the point where belief and behavior match.

How do we enter this state?

By:

writing your goals
reading them aloud
repeating them twice daily

you gradually impress belief onto the non-conscious mind.

Over time:

belief strengthens
faith develops
behavior shifts automatically

Eventually, you don’t have to force confidence.
It becomes natural.

Beyond the Five Senses: The Higher Faculties
Before moving into Chapter V — Specialized Knowledge, it’s important to introduce one of the most overlooked ideas Napoleon Hill emphasized: It’s the 6 higher faculties of the mind.

If you revisit Episode #67[ii], I explain how living only through our five senses can limit results.

Our five senses are connected to the conscious mind.

But beyond them lie six higher faculties, including:

imagination
intuition
perception
will
reason
memory

Hill believed intuition and imagination were so powerful that he devoted entire chapters to them.

These faculties allow us to:

access deeper insight
perceive what others miss
gain a competitive advantage

Intuition: A Sales Superpower
If I had to choose three higher faculties most useful in sales for us to develop, they would be:

intuition
perception
will

Let’s focus on intuition.

Intuition is the mental tool that allows you to feel truth:

a gut sense
an inner knowing
a subtle emotional signal

It develops with practice—and trust.

Putting Intuition Into Action (Sales)
When you’re presenting to someone, intuition answers questions like:

Are they engaged, but holding a question?
Do they need more information—or less?
Is it time to continue… or time to ask for the decision?

Highly intuitive sales professionals can sense:

certainty
hesitation
trust
resistance

—even without being in the same room with this person.

Sales at Its Highest Level
This brings us back to Paul Martinelli’s reminder:

“Sales at its highest level is the transference of emotion.
And the primary emotion is certainty.”

When intuition is developed, you know:

when certainty has been transferred
when the buyer is ready
when the close is natural

Eventually, as your higher faculties become conditioned through autosuggestion, you access them automatically—without effort or overthinking.

Closing Thought — Chapter IV: Autosuggestion
Autosuggestion is not about forcing belief.
It’s about training alignment.

When your thoughts, emotions, and actions match:

confidence becomes automatic
intuition sharpens
results follow naturally

Your inner script always becomes your outer results.

And that’s why autosuggestion is not optional.
It’s foundational.

Chapter V: Specialized Knowledge

Why Authority Always Outsells Enthusiasm
Core Idea:
Knowledge only becomes power when it’s organized and applied.

Sales Application:

Moving from “presenter” to trusted expert
Leading the conversation instead of reacting
Why winging it destroys certainty

Listener Takeaway:

Mastery creates calm authority.

Chapter V — Specialized Knowledge
Why Expertise—Not Information—Creates Sales Success
To further refine what we want to achieve, Chapter 5 of Think and Grow Rich introduces a critical distinction:

not all knowledge is created equally.

Napoleon Hill explains that it is specialized knowledge—not general knowledge—that separates you from everyone else and makes you valuable.

Knowledge alone, Hill reminds us, is only potential power.

“Knowledge (general or specialized) must be organized and intelligently directed, and is only potential power. It becomes power only when, and if, it is organized into definite plans of action and directed to a definite end.”
(Chapter V, p. 79, TAGR)

In other words:
Information does nothing on its own. Application is everything.

Why This Matters (Education vs. Application)
This becomes clear when we think about formal education.

Much of what we learn in school is general knowledge—useful only if we apply it in a specific way. Hill calls this the missing link in education:

“The failure of educational institutions is that it fails to teach students HOW TO ORGANIZE AND USE KNOWLEDGE after they acquire it.”
(Chapter V, p. 80, TAGR)

This insight alone explains why so many intelligent people struggle to produce results—especially in sales.

They know a lot, but they haven’t organized that knowledge into a repeatable system of action.

Henry Ford and the Myth of ‘Not Being Educated’
Henry Ford is Hill’s perfect example.

Ford famously said he had a row of buttons on his desk—buttons he could press to access any knowledge he needed. He didn’t need to personally possess all information. He needed to know:

where to get it
who to ask
how to apply it

Hill wrote:

“Any person is educated who knows where to get knowledge when needed, and how to organize that knowledge into definite plans of action.”
(Chapter V, p. 81, TAGR)

Through his Master Mind, Ford had access to all the specialized knowledge required to become one of the wealthiest men in America.

This is a critical lesson for sales professionals:

You do not need to know everything.
You need to know what matters most, and how to apply it.

Why Some Ideas Succeed and Others Don’t
This principle explains why some books—and businesses—succeed at extraordinary levels while others, though insightful, fall short.

Take Stephen Covey’s The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People.
Its impact wasn’t just the ideas—it was the framework. Covey gave readers clear steps for how to apply each habit in real life.

Contrast that with Eckhart Tolle’s The Power of Now. An incredible book, (I love this book- I own it-and it’s on my bookshelf). It’s rich in insight—but for many readers, it’s difficult to apply without additional guidance or structure.

The difference is not wisdom.
It’s organized, specialized knowledge.

“Knowledge is not power until it is organized into definite plans of action.”
(Chapter V, p. 80, TAGR)

What ‘Educated’ Really Means
Hill reminds us that education does not mean memorization or credentials.

The word educate comes from the Latin educo, meaning:

to draw out
to develop from within

An educated person is not someone with the most information—but someone who has developed the faculties of their mind to acquire, apply, and direct knowledge effectively.

This is where Specialized Knowledge intersects with:

imagination
intuition
perception
will

—faculties we explored earlier in the series.

Chapter V Specialized Knowledge Applied to Sales
In sales, Specialized Knowledge looks like this:

Knowing your customer’s world, not just your product
Understanding patterns in their world that match with yours, not scripts that lack meaning
Being able to simplify complexity for the buyer
Organizing your knowledge into a repeatable sales process

This is what creates authority.

When something comes naturally to you—but amazes others—you are operating in specialized knowledge.

That’s where confidence comes from.
That’s where trust is built.
That’s where sales success compounds.

How to Use Specialized Knowledge to Reach New Heights (Sales Tips)
1. Identify What You Do Naturally Well
Ask yourself:

What do people come to me for?
What feels obvious to me but confusing to others?

That’s your starting point for specialization.

2. Organize Your Knowledge into a Framework
Turn what you know into:

a process
a checklist
a conversation flow

Frameworks build confidence—for you and the buyer where you can point to them clearly where they are in the process, showing them how to move to where they want to go.

3. Learn Continuously—but Selectively
Don’t collect information.
Acquire purposeful knowledge aligned to your goal.

Ask:

Does this help me serve better?
Does this help my buyer decide?

4. Use a Master Mind
No top performer succeeds alone.

Surround yourself with:

mentors
peers
coaches

Borrow knowledge, insight, and certainty with every action that you take.

5. Apply, Review, Refine
Specialized knowledge compounds only when used.

Apply what you learn.
Review results.
Refine your approach.

This is how expertise is built.

Final Insight — Chapter V: Specialized Knowledge
Sales success does not come from knowing more.

It comes from knowing what matters, organizing it into action, and applying it consistently.

When Specialized Knowledge is combined with Imagination, it creates something powerful:

A unique and successful business.

And this brings us naturally to the next chapters—where imagination, planning, and decision transform knowledge into results.

Chapter VI: Imagination

Selling the Future Before the Close                 
Core Idea:
People buy future identity, not features.

Sales Application:

Painting the “after” state
Emotional buy-in before logical justification
Don’t quit when you are at “3 Feet from Gold” (Chapter 1, TAGR, Page 5).

Listener Takeaway
People don’t buy solutions.
They buy who they become after the solution.

And it is the salesperson’s role to activate the buyer’s imagination—to help them see themselves on the other side of the decision.

This brings us back to Paul Martinelli’s reminder:

“Sales at its highest level is the transference of emotion.
And the primary emotion is certainty.”

Imagination is what creates that certainty.

Before a buyer can feel certain, they must first imagine the outcome:

life after their problem is solved
success after the decision is made
themselves operating at a higher level

When imagination is engaged, certainty follows.
And when certainty is present, the decision becomes natural.

Can you see how all of these success principles tie into each other? Like the colors of the rainbow.

Chapter VI: Imagination
Review of Chapter VI — Our Imagination

“Imagination is everything,” according to American author and radio speaker Earl Nightingale, who devoted much of his work to human character development, motivation, and the pursuit of a meaningful life.

Every great invention is created in two places:
first in the mind of the inventor,
and then in the physical world when the idea is brought into form.

Our lives reflect how effectively we use our imagination. When we reach a plateau of success, it is not effort alone that takes us to the next level—it is imagination. Imagination allows us to see beyond our current circumstances and envision what is possible next.

This is why creating a crystal-clear vision is so important. When we write and read our vision twice a day, we intentionally activate our imagination. Writing and reading that vision in detail stimulates recognition centers in the brain. What may initially feel unrealistic or even like a “pipe dream” begins to feel familiar. Over time, the brain accepts it as something possible—something achievable. Eventually, what once felt distant becomes something you can see yourself doing. And then, one day, what you imagined becomes your reality.

When you look at the world through this lens, it’s remarkable to consider how much has changed in just the last 50 years—and how quickly that pace is accelerating. These new innovations began in someone’s mind first. The most recent leap forward is with artificial intelligence, but it follows the same pattern as every major breakthrough before it.

Someone first imagined a world where:

Amazon would dominate retail while owning almost no physical stores
Uber would transform transportation while owning almost no cars
Facebook would scale globally while creating no content
Airbnb would become a hospitality giant while owning no real estate
Netflix would redefine entertainment without being a TV channel
Bitcoin would create value without physical coins

Each of these began as an idea before evidence—a vision before execution.

The same principle applies to our goals, our careers, and our success. Everything we create begins with imagination. When imagination is paired with belief, intention, and action, it becomes a powerful force that shapes not only individual outcomes, but the direction of the world itself.

 

Closing Thought — Chapter VI

Imagination is not fantasy.
It is the starting point of all progress.

What you are able to imagine clearly today
is what you are capable of creating tomorrow.

How to Use Imagination for Sales Success
Turning Possibility into Certainty
1. Understand the Role of Imagination in Sales
Imagination is not fantasy.
In sales, imagination is pre-decision certainty.

Before a buyer can decide, they must first:

see a different future
feel themselves in it
believe it is attainable

Your job as the salesperson is to guide that mental rehearsal.

People don’t buy products.
They buy the future version of themselves (with the certainty that you paint for them).

2. Imagine the Outcome Before the Buyer Does
Top sales professionals do not start with features.
They start with vision.

Before the call, ask yourself:

Who does my buyer become after the purchase?
What changes in their day-to-day life?
What problem is no longer taking up mental space?
How you can support and guide them in this process.

If you cannot imagine the outcome clearly, your buyer won’t either.

👉 Clarity in your imagination creates authority in your voice.

3. Use Language That Activates Mental Pictures
We think in pictures, and imagination is activated through sensory language, not logic alone.

Instead of:

“This improves efficiency…”

Use:

“Imagine opening your dashboard and already knowing exactly where to focus…”

Instead of:

“This saves time…”

Use:

“Picture finishing your day without feeling behind…”

The brain responds to images and emotion FIRST before data.

4. Help the Buyer Mentally Rehearse Success
The most powerful question in sales is not “Do you want this?”

It’s:

“What would it look like if XYZ occurs?” (solving their problem)

Or:

“How would your role change if this new idea is properly implemented?”

When the buyer answers, they are:

using their imagination
creating emotional ownership
moving closer to certainty

They begin selling themselves.

5. Use Imagination to Replace Fear with Certainty
Fear lives in uncertainty.
Imagination dissolves fear by creating familiarity.

When buyers hesitate, it’s usually because:

the future feels unclear
the risk feels undefined

Your role is to make the future feel familiar before it happens.

Certainty is not pressure.
Certainty is clarity.

6. Align Imagination with Belief (Faith)
Imagination alone creates ideas.
Faith turns imagination into belief.

That’s why:

your tone matters
your confidence matters
your belief in the outcome matters

Buyers borrow certainty from you first—
and imagination is how they feel it.

7. Practice This Daily (Sales Exercise)
Before your sales day begins:

Ask yourself:

Who do I want to help today?
What result do I want to create for them?
Who do they become once this idea you are offering to them, works?

Spend 2–3 minutes visualizing that outcome.

This conditions your mind to:

speak with clarity
lead with calm confidence
naturally guide decisions

Final Insight — Imagination in Sales
Sales at its highest level is the transference of emotion.
Imagination creates the picture.
Certainty completes the transfer.

When you help buyers see themselves succeeding,
the sale no longer feels like a risk.

It feels like the next logical step.

Asking for the close becomes easy
when the buyer is already living in their outcome.

Chapter VII: Organized Planning

Turning Vision Into a Sales Process
Core Idea:
Faith without structure creates chaos.

Sales Application:

Why preparation builds confidence
Mapping the buyer journey
Making follow-up feel natural, not forced

Listener Takeaway:

Confidence comes from preparation.

Chapter VII — Organized Planning
Putting Desire Into Action
This chapter holds some of the most timeless and practical secrets of success in Think and Grow Rich. Its relevance is so enduring that entire industries—and thousands of books—are devoted to the subject of organization, both personal and professional.

From productivity systems to shows like Tidying Up with Marie Kondo, we’re reminded that when disorder becomes order, energy is freed. Clarity replaces chaos. Momentum replaces stagnation.

Napoleon Hill introduces this chapter with a powerful reframe:

“If the plan you adopt does not work successfully, replace it with a new plan.”
(Chapter VII, p. 117, TAGR)

And even more importantly:

“Temporary defeat should only mean one thing—the certain knowledge that there is something wrong with your plan.”

Failure, Hill teaches us, is not personal—it is instructional.

Thomas Edison famously failed over 10,000 times before perfecting the incandescent light bulb. He didn’t lack desire, faith, or imagination. What he refined—over and over—was his plan.

Why Organized Planning Matters in Sales
In sales, results don’t break down because of:

lack of motivation
lack of intelligence
lack of effort

They break down because of lack of structure.

Hope is not a plan.
Talent is not a plan.
Even imagination must be organized to produce results.

Hill emphasizes this with a phrase worth memorizing:

“A quitter never wins, and a winner never quits.”

He even suggests writing it down and placing it where you will see it every morning and every night.

We’ll explore this topic more deeply in the chapter on Persistence.

Organized Planning and Leadership
In this chapter, (Chapter 7) Hill outlines the 11 Major Attributes of Leadership. While all are important, several stand out as especially critical for sales success:

Unwavering Courage — rooted in self-knowledge and mastery of one’s occupation
Self-Control — because those who cannot control themselves cannot lead others
Definiteness of Decision — wavering (or hesitation) creates doubt; clarity builds trust
Definiteness of Plans — “Plan the work and work the plan”
The Habit of Doing More Than Paid For — leadership requires going beyond the minimum
Mastery of Detail — authority comes from knowing your domain deeply

Notice how these traits all point to one thing:
organized execution.

The Cost of Disorganization
Hill also lists the 10 Major Causes of Failure in Leadership, and he places this one first:

“The inability to organize details.”
(Chapter VII, p. 122, TAGR)

He’s clear: the successful leader must be the master of all details connected to their position.

In sales, this shows up everywhere:

disorganized pipelines
inconsistent follow-up
unclear messaging
reactive days instead of intentional ones

And here’s the deeper truth:
our ability to organize details at work often mirrors how we organize the rest of our life.

Your Environment Is Your Silent Plan
Our environments either:

inspire us
or expire us

They either add energy or drain it.

You can often tell a lot about someone’s relationship with organization by:

their workspace
their car
their calendar
even their closet

This isn’t about judgment—it’s about awareness.

As the saying goes:

“How you do anything is how you do everything.”

Hill believed this so strongly that he left space in his list of causes of failure for you to add your own—reminding us that self-awareness is essential.

Know Thyself: The Foundation of Any Plan
Hill repeatedly returns to the ancient principle: Know thyself.

Our podcast launched with this idea in Episode #2[iii], and it remains one of our most popular themes—because self-awareness is the gateway to growth.

“You should know all of your weaknesses so that you may either bridge them or eliminate them entirely.”
(Chapter VII, p. 144, TAGR)

Hill even provides a 28-question self-assessment to help identify faults and develop strengths.

As Jim Rohn famously said:

“The major value in life is not what you get. It’s what you become.”

Organized planning is how you become more.

How to Implement Chapter VII for Sales Success
Step 1: Put Desire Into Action
Write your sales goal clearly.
Then ask: What does this require me to do daily, weekly, and monthly?

Desire without structure creates frustration, and moves us away from success.

Step 2: Create a Simple, Repeatable Sales Process
Define:

how you prospect
how you prepare
how you follow up
how you close

Confidence comes from knowing what happens next.

Step 3: Track the Right Details
Not everything matters equally.

Decide:

which metrics truly move the needle
which activities produce results

Then measure these activities. Mastery of detail builds authority.

Step 4: Review and Adjust—Not Quit
If something isn’t working, don’t abandon the goal.

Adjust the plan.

Temporary defeat is feedback—not failure.

Step 5: Audit Your Environment
Ask:

Where is energy leaking from? (We all know the answer to this question).
What distractions are costing focus?
What needs to be simplified or removed?

Organization is leverage.

Step 6: Do More Than Required
Excellence compounds.

Small extra efforts—done consistently—separate top performers from the rest.

Final Thought — Chapter VII: Organized Planning
Organized planning is where vision becomes execution.

It’s the bridge between:

imagination and results
intention and impact
desire and achievement

When your plan is clear, confidence rises.
When confidence rises, leadership follows.

And in sales, leadership is what people buy.

REVIEW & CONCLUSION — EP 382 (PART 2)
Think and Grow Rich for Sales
Chapters 4-7: Autosuggestion, Specialized Knowledge, Imagination & Organized Planning

This week on EP 382 — PART 2, we continued our review of Think and Grow Rich for Sales, covering four chapters that transform inner mastery into outer sales performance.

These chapters answer a critical question for sales professionals:

How do belief, knowledge, vision, and structure actually show up in results?

Chapter IV — Autosuggestion: Your Inner Script Becomes Your Outer Results
Autosuggestion teaches us that sales performance is programmed before the call ever begins.

What we repeatedly tell ourselves—about our ability, our offer, our worth, and our prospects—becomes the script our behavior follows. The buyer does not respond primarily to our words. They respond to our energy, certainty, and emotional state.

When thoughts and emotions align, we enter a state of praxis—and our behavior becomes congruent, confident, and persuasive without force.

Autosuggestion is how belief is built deliberately, not accidentally.

Chapter V — Specialized Knowledge: From Information to Authority
Chapter 5 reminds us that knowledge alone is not power.

Knowledge becomes power only when it is:

organized
intelligently directed
applied toward a definite end

In sales, this is the difference between:

knowing your product
and being seen as a trusted guide or advisor

Specialized knowledge allows you to simplify complexity, lead conversations, and create clarity for the buyer. And through the power of a Master Mind, you don’t need to know everything—you only need to know where to get what matters most.

This is where confidence stops being performative and becomes authentic.

Chapter VI — Imagination: Where Sales Innovation Is Born
Imagination is the workshop of the mind—and the gateway to certainty.

People don’t buy solutions.
They buy who they become after the solution works.

Imagination allows the buyer to mentally rehearse success before the decision is made. When the outcome feels familiar, the risk dissolves.

This is why imagination makes the close easier:

the future feels clear
the outcome feels real
certainty is already present

Sales at this level is no longer persuasion.
It’s leadership through vision.

Chapter VII — Organized Planning: Putting Desire Into Action
Organized Planning is where vision becomes execution.

Hope is not a plan.
Motivation is not a plan.
Imagination without structure leads to frustration.

This chapter teaches us that:

temporary defeat is feedback
failure points to the plan, not the person
confidence comes from preparation

In sales, organized planning creates:

consistency
calm authority
momentum that compounds

It is also where leadership is revealed—through decisiveness, mastery of detail, and the habit of doing more than what’s required.

How These Four Chapters Work Together
These chapters form a powerful sequence:

Autosuggestion programs belief
Specialized Knowledge creates authority
Imagination builds certainty
Organized Planning turns vision into results

Together, they explain why sales success is never accidental.

It is engineered—from the inside out.

Final Thought
As Paul Martinelli reminds us:

“Sales at its highest level is the transference of emotion.
And the primary emotion is certainty.”

Autosuggestion builds belief.
Knowledge creates trust.
Imagination paints the future.
Planning removes hesitation.

When certainty is present, asking for the close becomes easy—
because the buyer is already living in the outcome.

Next week, we’ll continue forward into the chapters with PART 3 of our review, where decision, persistence, and the Master Mind turn momentum into inevitability.

Until then, remember:

Your inner world creates your outer results—
and sales rewards those who can master both.

We will see you next week!

RESOURCES:

Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE #190 

PART 1 “Making 2022 Your Best Year Ever”  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/think-and-grow-rich-book-review-part-1-how-to-make-2022-your-best-year-ever/

Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE #191 

PART 2 on “Thinking Differently and Choosing Faith Over Fear”  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/think-and-grow-rich-book-review-part-2-how-to-make-2022-your-best-year-ever-by-thinking-differently-and-choosing-faith-over-fear/

Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE #193 

 

PART 3 on “Putting Our Goals on Autopilot with Autosuggestion and Our Imagination”   https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/think-and-grow-rich-book-review-part-3-using-autosuggestion-and-your-imagination-to-put-your-goals-on-autopilot/

Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE #194 

PART 4 on “Perfecting the Skills of Organized Planning, Decision-Making, and Persistence” https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/think-and-grow-rich-book-review-part-4-on-perfecting-the-skills-of-organized-planning-decision-making-and-persistence/

Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE #195 

PART 5 [xxviii] on “The Power of the Mastermind, Taking the Mystery Out of Sex Transmutation, and Linking ALL Parts of the Mind” https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/think-and-grow-rich-book-review-part-5-on-the-power-of-the-mastermind-taking-the-mystery-out-of-sex-transmutation-and-linking-all-parts-of-our-mind/

PART 6 “In Memory of the Legendary Bob Proctor: The Neuroscience Behind the 15 Success Principles in Napoleon Hill’s Think and Grow Rich book”

https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/the-neuroscience-behind-the-15-success-principles-of-napoleon-hill-s-classic-boo-think-and-grow-rich/

 

REFERENCES:

 

[i] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE #190 PART 1 “Making 2022 Your Best Year Ever”  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/think-and-grow-rich-book-review-part-1-how-to-make-2022-your-best-year-ever/

 

 

[ii] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE #67 “Expanding Your Awareness with a Deep Dive into Most Important Concepts Learned from Bob Proctor Seminars: https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/expanding-your-awareness-with-a-deep-dive-into-bob-proctors-most-powerful-seminars/

 

[iii] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE #2 “Know Thyself” https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/self-awareness-know-thyself/