Bankless

Austen Allred joins Bankless to unpack Kelly Claude, the AI agent he has given an LLC, bank accounts, a token, and even a human employee. They explore how Kelly finds software opportunities, ships apps to the App Store, learns through orchestration and factory-style workflows, and why crypto rails may be the missing layer for agent-to-agent commerce.

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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
1:05 Meet Kelly
4:46 Why Kelly needed an LLC, bank account, and token
10:27 The real goal is a zero-human company
15:46 The apps Kelly is already shipping
18:33 Can taste be replicated?
21:53 Why AI defaults to consensus
30:04 What orchestration and factories actually mean
34:21 How autonomous is autonomous?
38:20 The marketing factory and why AI ads must look worse
46:47 Why Ryan and David’s agent Daniel keeps failing
54:43 Can there be a generic template for AI companies?
59:14 If everyone can build over a weekend, what are the moats?
1:06:08 Why crypto finally clicks for AI agents
1:12:32 The missing crypto product is distribution
1:14:57 Advice for builders experimenting with agents

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RESOURCES

Austen Allred
https://x.com/Austen

Kelly Claude
https://x.com/kellyclaudeai

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Markets are ripping back to all-time highs, but crypto still isn’t following suit.

Ryan and David break down the V-shaped recovery driven by Iran de-escalation, why Bitcoin is still stuck in range, and the growing bull vs bear divide across macro and onchain data. They also unpack Saylor’s STRC “money printer,” the World Liberty DeFi controversy, and the SEC’s surprise ruling that just gave DeFi a major win.

Plus: the Bitcoin community’s plan to freeze Satoshi’s coins and what it means for the future of the network.

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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES

0:00 Intro

2:04 Markets at ATHs / Iran De-Escalation

https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2044507788961894462 

https://x.com/TheStalwart/status/2044045804596346931

https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2041728989119529307

https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2043285255931441306

https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2043323635671179641

https://x.com/AndrewBeckUSA/status/2043136650478301245

https://x.com/zerohedge/status/2044426813544255859

https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2044055049882476961

https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2044435422944649651

https://polymarket.com/event/us-x-iran-permanent-peace-deal-by/?via=bankless?

https://x.com/RaoulGMI/status/2043832901121331527 

https://x.com/Matt_Hougan/status/2044095946334843168

https://x.com/JustDeauIt/status/2044127128296313079

https://x.com/benjamincowen/status/2044114246187851783

https://x.com/JoshKale/status/2044425507203166292

https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/2044423401763127512

https://x.com/LizAnnSonders/status/2043664934559420916

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UMCSENT

https://x.com/perry8888_/status/2044168141148655773

https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/2044375033909264873

https://polymarket.com/event/how-many-fed-rate-cuts-in-2026/?via=bankless?

30:41 Saylor STRC / Bitcoin Bid & ETH Treasury Race (Tom Lee / Bitmine)

https://x.com/LynAldenContact/status/2043736183578972443

https://x.com/AdamBLiv/status/2043809798035255790

https://x.com/STRC_live/status/2044029951410635132

https://x.com/pythianism/status/2044425651890147507

https://x.com/nic_carter/status/2044461949895819559

https://x.com/AltcoinDaily/status/2044492873803116649 

https://x.com/fundstrat/status/2043683094914335191

https://www.strategicethreserve.xyz/

https://cointelegraph.com/news/ether-machine-spac-ethm-cancelled-dynamix-merger

https://x.com/CryptosR_Us/status/2044507049648697717

46:24 World Liberty Financial (FTX-style risk)

https://x.com/DefiIgnas/status/2042520040562639186

55:22 SEC DeFi Ruling (Bull Case) 

https://x.com/SECGov/status/2043739582273855635 

https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/2043754533545746884

https://x.com/intangiblecoins/status/2043709926556492190

58:39 Bitcoin Quantum Plan (BIP-361)

https://x.com/BitcoinArchive/status/2044319025711255985

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0361.mediawiki

https://www.bip361.org/

https://x.com/lopp/status/2044406134178795748

1:02:53 Closing & Disclaimers

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Why has the dollar remained dominant despite rising debt, geopolitical strain, and growing challengers?

Barry Eichengreen joins Bankless to trace the history of global reserve currencies. From Spanish silver and the Byzantine solidus to sterling and the modern dollar, Barry explains the conditions that make a currency rise, endure, and eventually fall.

We explore fiscal discipline, rule of law, military power, gold, China, and crypto to understand what history suggests about the dollar’s future.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

5:11 Spanish Pieces of ape

14:58 Solidus

18:56 International Currency Status

29:32 The Fall of International Currencies

33:27 The Fall of The US Dollar

41:38 What’s Special about the Dollar?

47:39 Theoretical Currencies

51:09 US Dollar Dominance Consequences

59:39 When will the Dollar Fall?

1:03:09 US Dollar Competitors

1:08:32 Gold

1:14:08 Bitcoin & Crypto

1:18:23 Closing & Disclaimers

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RESOURCES

Barry Eichengreen

https://x.com/B_Eichengreen

Money Beyond Borders: Global Currencies from Croesus to Crypto

https://www.amazon.com/Money-Beyond-Borders-Currencies-Croesus/dp/0691280533 

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Has crypto already bottomed, or is more pain still ahead? Mike and Ryan break down the bull and bear case in full, from Bitcoin fair value and market structure to global liquidity, AI demand, and the macro risks still hanging over markets. Mike explains why he thinks the setup still looks more like a bear market than a new uptrend, even if the odds are close. It’s a sharp episode on how to navigate a market that could break either way.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

1:18 Understanding the crypto cycle

3:23 The wealth destruction phase

5:30 Defining the current market conditions

8:14 Reflecting on past market battles

11:15 The four-year cycle explained

13:19 The impact of liquidity cycles

17:12 Analyzing the S&P and market health

20:34 The bullish case for crypto

24:07 Exploring on-chain metrics

27:16 The bear case outlined

32:14 The difficulty of market navigation

44:26 Summarizing the bearish perspective

48:12 Market uncertainty

59:54 Closing & disclaimers

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Michael Saylor thinks Bitcoin is headed to $21 million, but the real story in this conversation is how he believes it gets there. In his first appearance on Bankless, Saylor breaks down Strategy’s evolving capital machine, why STRC may be the most ambitious instrument the company has built yet, how he thinks about quantum risk without panic, why his view on Ethereum has become more constructive, and what he means when he says the endgame is giving the world an 8% bank account forever.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro
1:00 Michael Saylor’s $21M Bitcoin thesis
4:33 What has to go right for Bitcoin to get there
11:00 Has Bitcoin adoption stalled out?
13:20 Why STRC became Strategy’s breakout product
18:05 The pitch behind a Bitcoin-backed money market
21:13 How STRC is engineered to stay stable
27:31 Where the 11.5% yield comes from
36:35 Is Strategy taking too much risk?
46:50 Does Strategy ever stop buying Bitcoin?
58:48 Quantum, panic, and the Bitcoin response
1:16:18 Michael Saylor on Ethereum today
1:25:46 “Fix the money, fix the world”
1:38:39 The crypto reactor and Strategy’s endgame

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RESOURCES

Michael Saylor
https://x.com/saylor

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