All Things Internal Audit

All Things Internal Audit: Fraud Podcast
"The Heartbreaking Fraud"
Listen to The IIA's Fraud Podcast, brought to you by All Things Internal Audit. The Fraud Podcast provides fictionalized accounts of real-world frauds featured in Internal Auditor magazine's Fraud department. 
In this episode, one ordinary Thursday cracks open a decade of misplaced trust. What starts as a simple payroll question quickly spirals into a trail of inflated salaries, personal charges, and checks written to someone who was practically family. The money is gone, but the real cost runs much deeper.
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Read the April issue here.
Interested in more fraud-related topics? Earn CPEs by registering for The IIA's Fraud Analytics for Internal Auditors Certificate, available online and in-person.


Chapters:
Introduction to the Case (00:00:00)
Part 1: A Thursday That Changed Everything (00:00:23)
Part 2: Something Doesn't Add Up (00:02:46)
Part 3: Peeling Back the Layers (00:03:56)
Part 4: The Truth (00:05:13)
Part 5: A Hard Lesson (00:06:07)

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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit 
What does it take to move an internal audit function from being risk traditionalists to risk strategists, and what's quietly holding most teams back?
 
In this companion episode to Internal Auditor magazine's "Becoming a Risk Strategist" article, host Erin Banet sits down with Jess Rodgers to examine why the traditional audit model no longer fits the world we're operating in, and what leaders need to unlearn before they can change it. You'll hear three assumptions most audit teams are still running on, a real-world example of transformation done right, and one concrete action CAEs can take in the next six months to start shifting their function's standing with leadership.

 

 
HOST: Erin Banet, CPA
 
Chief Audit and Risk Officer, Humana







GUEST: Jess Rodgers, CIA, CPA 
 
Global Internal Audit Leader, EY
 
Vice Chair, Finance, IIA North American Board











 
KEY POINTS:
Introduction [00:00:02 - 00:00:25]
What Defines a Risk Traditionalist Function [00:00:51 - 00:02:31]
Why the Traditional Model No Longer Works [00:02:37 - 00:04:22]
Assumptions Internal Audit Must Unlearn [00:04:28 - 00:06:39]
The Mindset Shift Required for Transformation [00:06:44 - 00:08:44]
A Real-World Transformation Example [00:08:44 - 00:11:10]
Where Traditional Approaches Fall Short [00:11:10 - 00:13:36]
Measuring Success as a Risk Strategist [00:13:36 - 00:15:27]
Decision Velocity in Practice [00:15:27 - 00:17:25]
Common Barriers to Transformation [00:17:25 - 00:19:23]
One Action Leaders Can Take Now [00:19:23 - 00:21:03]
Advice for CAEs Navigating the Transition [00:21:22 - 00:23:06]
Driving Change Within Audit Teams [00:23:06 - 00:24:36]
Closing Thoughts [00:24:36 - 00:25:05]
 
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RELATED CONTENT: 
Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources:

Becoming a Risk Strategist — Internal Auditor Magazine (April Issue)
Global Internal Audit Standards
Vison 2035
GTAG: Continuous Auditing and Monitoring
Learning Solutions: Agile Auditing
Global Guidance: Developing a Risk-Based Internal Audit Plan, 2nd Edition
Learning Solutions: Fundamentals of Risk-based Auditing
Become a Certified Internal Auditor (CIA)
Risk in Focus 2026
EY Global Risk Transformation Study
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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit 
Five women. Five careers. Decades of experience across some of the world's largest organizations. They didn't just find their way into this profession. They helped shape it. 



In this companion episode to Internal Auditor magazine's "Leading the Way" article, five internal audit leaders sit for a conversation that's long overdue: Erin Banet, Doris Myles, Chrysti Ziegler, Dominique Vincenti, and Beili Wong. Together, they cover the careers they built, the rooms they walked into alone, and what they'd tell every woman in this profession today.


You'll hear why preparing thoroughly is not the same as having permission to speak. You'll learn what it looks like to walk into a high-stakes conversation as a professional first, not as a woman managing a narrative. You'll hear the bad advice one of them ignored, and what happened when she did. And you'll discover what sponsorship really means when it's the difference between being mentored and having someone actively advocate on your behalf.

 

 
HOST: Catie Brown
Associate Manager & Producer, Content Development, The IIA









GUESTS:

Erin Banet, CPA
Chief Audit and Risk Officer, Humana


Chrysti Ziegler, CIA, CRMA, CFE
Chief Auditor, Citgo Petroleum Corporation


Dominique Vincenti, CIA, CRMA
Immediate Past CAE, Uber
Board Member, Loft Orbital


Beili Wong, CIA, CISA, CPA
Comptroller General, Ontario Treasury Board Secretariat
Director, Global Guidance, IIA Global Board of Directors


Doris Myles, CIA, CPA
Director of Internal Audit, St. Jude Children's Research Hospital
 








 
KEY POINTS:
Introduction: Women's Voices in Internal Audit [00:00:02 – 00:01:33]
Career Journeys Into Internal Audit [00:02:12 – 00:09:01]
Finding Your Voice in High-Stakes Conversations [00:09:01 – 00:12:14]
Confidence vs. Permission [00:12:21 – 00:15:23]
Owning Expertise and Leading the Narrative [00:15:23 – 00:18:23]
Early Career Challenges and Speaking Up [00:18:23 – 00:20:07]
Progress of Women in Internal Audit Leadership [00:20:07 – 00:21:24]
Redefining Leadership Through Empathy and Relationships [00:21:24 – 00:23:51]
Women as Strategic Leaders, Not Just Technicians [00:23:51 – 00:24:57]
The Value of Sponsorship vs. Mentorship [00:26:25 – 00:29:21]
Creating Opportunities and Building Networks [00:29:21 – 00:31:51]
Balancing Career and Personal Life [00:31:51 – 00:33:57]
Final Reflections: Passion, Risk, and Owning Your Space [00:34:03 – 00:36:02]
Closing Remarks [00:36:02 – 00:36:45]
 
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IIA RELATED CONTENT: 
Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources:

Leading the Way — Internal Auditor Magazine (April Issue)
How Personal Branding Benefits Female Leaders
Building a Better Auditor: Celebrating Women Who Paved the Way
Internal Auditing Competency Framework
Vison 2035
Become a Certified Internal Auditor (CIA)


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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit 
In this companion episode to the Global Best Practices' Elevating Internal Audit Communication With the Board, Rob Clark Jr. and Fábio Pimpão discuss how internal auditors can communicate more effectively with boards and executive leaders. They explore how to simplify complex risks, use storytelling to drive impact, and align messaging with what boards care about, from financial and reputational risk to strategic priorities. The conversation also covers practical tips for preparing for board presentations, leveraging AI, and building trusted relationships across the organization.
 

 
HOST: Rob Clark Jr., CIA, CCEP, CBM
Chief Audit Executive, City of Hope






GUEST: Fábio Pimpão, CIA, CRMA, CCSA
Director, Internal Audit, Whirlpool Corporation
Director, Professional Certifications, IIA Global Board of Directors








 
KEY POINTS:
Introduction [00:00:40 - 00:01:46]
How Board Expectations Have Evolved [00:01:46 - 00:03:32]
Simplifying Complex Risks for the Board [00:04:19 - 00:06:00]
Why Communication Is a Critical Audit Skill [00:06:00 - 00:07:55]
Using AI to Improve Clarity and Messaging [00:07:17 - 00:08:13]
Storytelling as a Tool for Impact [00:13:15 - 00:16:05]
Preparing for Board Presentations [00:16:05 - 00:18:59]
Translating Technical Issues into Business Impact [00:21:26 - 00:25:30]
Focusing on Financial and Reputational Risk [00:25:30 - 00:26:55]
Building Trusted Relationships Across the Organization [00:27:00 - 00:31:35]
Final Advice: Priorities, Storytelling, and Driving Impact [00:31:35 - 00:32:38]
 
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IIA RELATED CONTENT: 
Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources:

Global Best Practices: Elevating Internal Audit Communication With the Board
Global Internal Audit Standards
Course: Using the Standards to Communicate Clearly with the Board
Vison 2035
Global Audit Committee Center
Become a Certified Internal Auditor (CIA)
2026 Analytics, Automation and AI Virtual Conference


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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech 
In this episode, Daniel McCarville speaks with Bill Bensing about shadow IT and why it continues to emerge inside organizations. They explore how shadow IT often signals innovation rather than just risk, and how internal auditors can help organizations balance experimentation, governance, and operational control. The conversation also introduces a practical framework for understanding how ideas move from exploration to validation and ultimately into formal operations.
 
HOST: Daniel McCarville
Associate Vice President of Internal Audit
Arch Capital




 



GUEST: Bill Bensing
Chief Technologist and Co-Founder
Attestify









 
KEY POINTS:

Introduction [00:00:02-00:00:39]
What Is Shadow IT? [00:00:39-00:01:56]
Why Shadow IT Exists in Organizations [00:02:13-00:05:08]
Shadow IT as a Source of Innovation [00:05:33-00:08:03]
Why Small Internal Solutions Can Deliver Big Value [00:06:10-00:07:33]
The Role of Shadow IT in Validating Ideas [00:09:14-00:10:56]
Why Innovation Often Fails to Take Hold [00:12:41-00:14:00]
How Leaders Can Enable Innovation Safely [00:14:00-00:16:54]
Building Communities and Internal Flywheels of Innovation [00:17:00-00:18:55]
Developing Internal Innovation Teams [00:19:08-00:21:24]
Why Experimentation and Imperfection Are Necessary for Innovation [00:21:59-00:22:59]
How Auditors Should Rethink Shadow IT Risk [00:23:02-00:24:17]
The Exploration-Validation-Operation Model [00:24:17-00:28:07]
Internal Audit's Role Across the Innovation Lifecycle [00:28:07-00:31:11]
Addressing Shadow IT Risks Without Stifling Innovation [00:32:29-00:35:32]
Why Building Tools Strengthens Career Growth [00:37:11-00:39:04]
Learning Principles vs. Learning Tools [00:39:21-00:41:51]
How Auditors Can Encourage Innovation While Maintaining Controls [00:41:59-00:46:30]
Final Thoughts: Enabling Coordination Across the Three Lines [00:47:39-00:50:14]
Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more.


 
IIA RELATED CONTENT: 
Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources:

Global Internal Audit Standards
IIA Certificates: IT General Controls Certificate
Knowledge Centers: Artificial Intelligence
Vison 2035
Become a Certified Internal Auditor (CIA)
IIA Courses: Fundamentals of IT Auditing
Combined Assurance
2026 Analytics, Automation and AI Virtual Conference
 The Big Idea: Shadow AI Isn't Just a Sign of Control Gaps

 
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