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All Things Internal Audit

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  • All Things Internal Audit

    Behind the Scenes of a Global Cybersecurity Audit

    06/10/2026 | 29 min
    The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech
    In this episode, Elizabeth Sullivan talks with Anthony Pugliese and Matt Pearman about Pugliese's experience when he  joined a global cybersecurity audit at Barclays. They discuss how the team planned and scoped an audit of a cloud platform used to build and run artificial intelligence, the value of senior leadership involvement, and the importance of balancing structure with flexibility. The conversation also explores cyber resilience, third-party risk, leadership engagement, and translating complex cybersecurity observations into meaningful information for executives and boards.

    HOST:
    Elizabeth Sullivan, CIA, CRMA, CCSA,
    Senior Vice President and Chief Risk and Audit Officer, Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority

     

    GUESTS:
    Anthony Pugliese, CIA, CPA
    President and CEO, The Institute of Internal Auditors

     

    Matt Pearman, CIA, CISA, CISM, CISSP
    Chief Internal Auditor for the Chief Operating Officer, Barclays

     

    KEY POINTS:
    (00:00) Introduction
    (00:37) Goals of the Barclays Cloud AI Platform Audit
    (01:34) How a Chapter Event Led to an Invitation
    (03:00) Teamwork and Collaboration in Kickoff Sessions
    (05:02) Balancing Structure With Flexibility
    (07:18) New Hire Development and Hands-On Management
    (08:21) Prioritizing Key Controls When Setting Scope
    (09:28) Gathering and Challenging Evidence
    (10:43) The Value of Curious, Thoughtful Questions
    (11:56) Senior Leadership Support Builds Credibility
    (13:54) Adding Context Without Impairing Independence
    (16:43) Cyber Resilience, Governance, and Third-Party Risk
    (19:24) Translating Technical Findings Into Business Implications
    (22:05) Showing the Discipline Behind Each Engagement
    (24:24) Lessons in Rigor, Relevance, and Common Sense
    (27:32) Future IIA Standards, Guidance, and Training

    IIA RELATED CONTENT: 
    Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources:
    Cybersecurity Topical Requirement
    Third-Party Topical Requirement
    Artificial Intelligence Knowledge Center
    Elevating Internal Audit Communication With the Board
    Vision 2035
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  • All Things Internal Audit

    The Future of Internal Audit: AI, Automation, and Risk Sensing

    29/09/2026 | 15 min
    The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit

    In this episode, Mike Levy talks with Amy Fread about how AI, automation, and business transformation are reshaping internal audit. They discuss how auditors can become involved earlier in organizational change, communicate more effectively with stakeholders, evaluate third-party risk, and identify opportunities for cosourcing. Amy also shares why the profession is moving toward continuous monitoring, risk sensing, and more data-driven assurance.

    HOST: Mike Levy, CIA, CRMA
    CEO, Cherry Hill Advisory











    GUEST: Amy Fread, CISA
     Audit & Assurance Principal, Deloitte & Touche LLP











    KEY POINTS:
    Introduction [00:00–00:39]
    How Internal Audit Is Evolving [00:40–02:46]
    Getting Involved Earlier in Business Transformation [02:47–04:12]
    Making Audit Reports More Useful [04:13–05:55]
    AI Governance and Internal Audit Use Cases [05:56–08:28]
    Assessing Third-Party Risk and Cost Recovery Opportunities [08:29–10:07]
    When to Consider Cosourcing [10:08–11:30]
    Measuring Value Beyond Dollars Recovered [11:31–12:23]
    Turning Risk Data Into Action [12:24–14:05]
    The Future of Internal Audit [14:06–15:15]
    IIA RELATED CONTENT: 
    Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources:
    Global Internal Audit Standards
    Artificial Intelligence Knowledge Center
    Third-Party Topical Requirement
    Continuous Auditing and Monitoring
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  • All Things Internal Audit

    Quantum Computing Risk: What Internal Auditors Need to Know

    22/09/2026 | 25 min
    The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit

    In this episode, Richard Penfil talks with Cory Missimore about how quantum computing could threaten current encryption, why "harvest now, decrypt later" attacks require organizations to prepare today, and how internal auditors can assess quantum readiness. They also discuss cryptographic inventories, third-party exposure, crypto agility, regulatory developments, and practical steps organizations can take to prepare without overreacting.

    HOST: Richard Penfil,
    Founder, AssureSwarm










    GUEST: Cory Missimore, CISSP, CDPSE, CISM, CIPP
    Senior Information Security Compliance Analyst, American Institutes for Research










    KEY POINTS:
    Introduction [00:00–00:47]
    Quantum Computers vs. Traditional Computers [00:47–01:44]
    Why Organizations Should Prepare Now [01:45–03:18]
    Cryptographic Inventories and Accountability [03:19–05:27]
    "Harvest Now, Decrypt Later" Attacks [05:28–07:42]
    The Emerging Regulatory Landscape [07:43–09:33]
    Three Questions for Assessing Quantum Readiness [09:34–13:11]
    Third-Party and Vendor Exposure [13:12–15:01]
    Integrating Quantum Risk Into Existing Audits [15:02–17:49]
    Warning Signs and Regulatory Developments [17:50–20:27]
    How Quantum Computing and AI Could Develop Together [20:28–22:13]
    Practical Steps Organizations Can Take Today [22:14–24:42]
    Final Thoughts [24:43–25:36]

    IIA RELATED CONTENT: 
    Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources:
    Global Internal Audit Standards
    Cybersecurity Topical Requirement
    Cybersecurity Part 3: Cybersecurity Third-Party Risk Management
    All Things Internal Audit Tech: Quantum Computing
    All Things Internal Audit Tech: Quantum Is Coming for Your Encryption. Now What?
    The Big Idea: Quantum Computing
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  • All Things Internal Audit

    How Two Students Taught 52 Auditors to Build AI Agents

    15/09/2026 | 25 min
    The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit

    In this episode, Alex Rusate talks with Ivan Diaz and Mohamed Maiga, two Utah Valley University students whose curiosity led them to build practical AI tools. They explain how AI agents go beyond chatbots to automate repetitive audit work, why understanding the intended output is essential for validating AI-generated results, and how organizations can begin adopting AI without sacrificing security or human judgment.

    HOST: Alex Rusate, CIA, CISA, CPA, AAIA, CERP, CRMA, CCSA
    Senior Vice President and Director of Internal Audit, Arrow Financial









    GUESTS: Ivan Diaz Accounting Student, Utah Valley University

    Mohamed Maiga
    Cybersecurity Graduate, Utah Valley University











    KEY POINTS:
    Introduction: Students Teaching Auditors About AI Agents [00:00:00–00:00:35]
    Ivan's Introduction to the Internal Audit Conference [00:00:36–00:01:33]
    Finding an Audit Process to Automate [00:01:34–00:02:44]
    Building an AI Agent Without Technical Experience [00:02:45–00:04:13]
    Improving Results Through Iteration and Multiple AI Tools [00:04:14–00:05:47]
    The Difference Between Chatbots and AI Agents [00:05:48–00:07:05]
    Troubleshooting an Agent and Selecting the Right Model [00:07:06–00:08:20]
    Validating AI-Generated Audit Work [00:08:21–00:10:24]
    Designing Effective Instructions and Identifying Red Flags [00:10:25–00:11:43]
    Protecting Confidential Information When Using AI [00:11:44–00:13:12]
    Using Feedback to Strengthen an AI Agent [00:13:13–00:14:54]
    Mohamed's Introduction to AI Agents [00:14:55–00:16:38]
    Using an AI Agent to Navigate Purchasing Policies [00:16:39–00:18:26]
    Automating Repetitive Work While Preserving Human Judgment [00:18:27–00:19:16]
    Building an AI Agent for Cybersecurity Exam Preparation [00:19:17–00:20:43]
    Reducing Hallucination Risk Through Sources and Validation [00:20:44–00:22:26]
    Advice for Internal Audit Leaders Adopting AI [00:22:27–00:24:24]
    Starting Small and Applying AI with Purpose [00:24:25–00:25:17]
    Closing [00:25:18–00:25:29]

    IIA RELATED CONTENT: 
    Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources:
    The NextGen Audit Mentor — Internal Auditor magazine (August Issue)
    IIA Membership
    Global Internal Audit Standards
    Artificial Intelligence Auditing Framework
    Knowledge Center: Artificial Intelligence
     
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  • All Things Internal Audit

    Insider Threat Management: Connecting the Dots Before an Incident

    08/09/2026 | 34 min
    The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit

    In this episode, Sanjay Vadlamani talks with Yvette Adams about how insider threats extend beyond malicious employees. They discuss negligent, malicious, and compromised insiders, along with the ways AI, remote work, cloud applications, and expanding access have increased organizational risk. The conversation also covers behavior monitoring, employee privacy, access management, offboarding, multidisciplinary risk teams, and the importance of connecting information across organizational silos before a threat becomes an incident.
    HOST: Sanjay Vadlamani, CIA, CISA, CRISC
    Senior Manager, Internal Audit, PayJoy








    GUEST: Yvette Adams, CIA, CRMA
    Director of Enterprise Risk Management, Zions Bancorporation









    KEY POINTS:
    Introduction [00:00–00:00:38]
    The Three Types of Insider Threats [00:00:39–00:03:19]
    How AI, Remote Work, and Cloud Applications Increase Risk [00:03:20–00:06:52]
    IIA Membership [00:06:53–00:07:38]
    Balancing Employee Monitoring, Privacy, and Trust [00:07:39–00:11:13]
    Indicators of Insider Risk [00:11:14–00:15:16]
    The FinWise Bank Incident and Offboarding Risk [00:15:17–00:18:48]
    Connecting Information Across Organizational Silos [00:18:49–00:22:47]
    Five Elements of a Mature Insider Risk Program [00:22:48–00:26:40]
    Lessons From the Tesla Insider Threat Case [00:26:41–00:28:56]
    Understanding the Insider Threat Life Cycle [00:28:57–00:30:07]
    Employee Self-Reporting and Where Organizations Should Start [00:30:08–00:33:40]
    Closing [00:33:41–00:33:51]

    IIA RELATED CONTENT: 
    Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources:
    Global Practice Guide: Auditing Insider Threat Programs
    Insider Threat Leading Practices

    Insider Threat Assessment Using NIST Cybersecurity Framework

    All Things Internal Audit Tech: Identity & Access Management

    Understanding Insider Threats

    IIA Membership
     
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All Things Internal Audit brings you real conversations, practical insights, and expert perspectives from across the profession. Produced by The Institute of Internal Auditors, each episode explores the challenges, innovations, and ideas shaping internal audit today. Views expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of The IIA. Available wherever you get your podcasts. Visit www.theiia.org for more information.
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