What if there's a biblical practice many of us dismissively chuckle about, that could actually strengthen your leadership and protect your team? In this revealing conversation with CXMMXNS songwriters Reuben Morgan and Ben Fielding, we uncover a spiritual discipline that the Western church has largely abandoned. While most leaders are grinding harder and pushing through, Reuben and Ben share what they've discovered about a counterintuitive approach that's helping them steward songs reaching millions while staying grounded in local church ministry. From the hidden traps of ministry success to the ancient church rhythms we've forgotten, this conversation will challenge your assumptions about productivity, spiritual maturity, and what it really means to follow Jesus' model of leadership. This episode might make you rethink your entire approach to sustainable ministry. Worship Online is your new secret weapon for preparing each week. With detailed song tutorials and resources, you and your team will save hours every single week, and remove the stress from preparing for a set. Try a free trial at WorshipOnline.com and see the transformation! Mentioned in the Episode New Release from CXMMXNS --- If you like what you hear, please leave us a review! Also, shoot us an e-mail at
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