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We break down Israel’s deadlocked election and coalition fight, what a possible change in government could mean for Iran policy, and the growing counterintelligence concerns around foreign influence, personnel cuts, and recent Iran-linked activity in Europe. We also discuss whether America has lost the initiative in the Middle East, the debate over restrictive rules of engagement during the War on Terror, and what lessons the U.S. military should actually take from 20 years of war.

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00:00 – Start
00:58 – Israel’s Election Ends in a Deadlock
02:18 – How Israel’s Coalition System Works
03:27 – Could Israel Be Headed for Another Election?
04:16 – Arab Parties Suddenly Hold Major Bargaining Power
05:03 – What Arab Israelis Actually Want From the Government
06:19 – Israel’s Basic Law & the Question of Equality
07:16 – Can Either Side Build a 61-Seat Coalition?
08:48 – What Would an Eisenkot Government Actually Change?
09:37 – Netanyahu vs. Eisenkot on Iran
10:08 – Jared Kushner’s Role in Middle East Policy
11:04 – Inside the U.S. Security Relationship With the Palestinians
12:06 – Netanyahu’s Relationship With Kushner
12:42 – U.S. Military Officers & Foreign Influence Concerns
14:06 – How Does This Happen Without Counterintelligence Scrutiny?
14:27 – Strava, Wearables & Modern OPSEC Failures
17:33 – What Happens When FBI Counterintelligence Teams Get Cut?
18:04 – Offensive vs. Defensive Counterintelligence
19:14 – How Technology Has Changed Counterintelligence Operations
20:32 – Cutting Personnel With a Machete Instead of a Scalpel
21:30 – Losing Mandarin Speakers Inside the Government
22:41 – Iranian-Americans & the Failure to Use Native Expertise
24:14 – Why the U.S. Struggles to Identify Real Regional Experts
24:45 – The Books Intelligence Analysts Should Actually Be Reading
26:44 – What a New Iran Analyst Should Learn First
27:18 – Why Analysts Need to Read the Other Side’s Literature
29:02 – The Ugly American & Understanding Foreign Cultures
30:00 – The RAF Fairford Plot Returns to the News
30:21 – Suspects Go on Trial in the UK
31:16 – The Wider Network Behind the Fairford Case
32:04 – Iran-Linked Operations Across Europe
32:28 – Did a New IRGC Handler Rush the Operation?
33:36 – How the UK Network Was Structured
34:18 – Has Iran Lost Too Many Experienced Intelligence Officers?
34:59 – Sometimes Just Breaching the Base Is the Victory
35:24 – What World War I German Sabotage Can Teach Us
35:57 – Immigration, Brain Drain & America’s Talent Problem
37:05 – Why the U.S. Should Keep Iranian Scientists Here
37:43 – Operation Paperclip & Recruiting Enemy Talent
38:38 – Has America Lost the Initiative in the Middle East?
39:02 – The USS Abraham Lincoln as a Symbol of Strategic Failure
39:31 – “Escalate to Deescalate” & the Failure of Policy
40:14 – The New York Times on Special Operations Podcasts
40:58 – Why The Team House Avoids the Culture-War Trap
41:52 – Did America Lose Because We “Didn’t Take the Gloves Off”?
43:00 – When Rules of Engagement Really Were Too Restrictive
44:04 – The Eight-Hour Targeting Soak
45:01 – From Extremely Loose ROE to Extremely Restrictive ROE
45:50 – Why Different Battlefields Needed Different Rules
47:05 – When a Missed Drone Strike Reset the Entire Targeting Cycle
47:34 – “Restrike Authorized”
48:04 – Why Rules of Engagement Changed During the War
48:29 – McChrystal, F3EAD & the SOCOM Targeting Model
49:00 – Jessica Lynch & Early Iraq War Training Failures
50:36 – Army vs. Marine Corps Marksmanship Training
55:47 – Are We Learning the Right Lessons From 20 Years of War?
57:13 – Jack’s Upcoming High Side Story on Sudan
58:18 – Jonathan’s Next Writing Project
59:15 – Sanctions, Pistachios, Carpets & Iranian Saffron
1:00:35 – Is “Spanish Saffron” Actually Iranian?
1:01:26 – Syrian Aleppo Pepper & Sanctions Workarounds
1:02:12 – American Insurgent & the December 1 Deadline
1:03:14 – Closing Thoughts

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Pete Blaber looks back on his path from the Ranger Regiment to Delta Force, including operations in Panama, Colombia, Somalia, Bosnia, Iraq, and Afghanistan, and the leadership lessons he carried from each. We also dig into his reconstruction of the Pat Tillman friendly-fire incident, the command failures that set the conditions for it, and why accountability and common-sense leadership matter so much in combat.

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00:00 – Start
01:09 – Growing Up Outside Chicago
02:48 – Cross Country, Endurance & Learning to Push Through Pain
05:45 – Desert One Inspires Him to Join the Military
07:07 – Trying to Figure Out How to Get Into the Army
08:38 – “I Want to Join Delta Force”
09:04 – OCS & Becoming an Infantry Officer
10:16 – The Fastest Route to Ranger Regiment
10:36 – First Assignment in Korea
11:56 – Joining 2nd Ranger Battalion
12:22 – The Ranger Battalion Commander Who Shaped His Leadership
13:28 – What a Healthy Command Climate Looks Like
15:12 – “The Best Welfare for the Troops Is Getting Them Home”
16:09 – Learning to Stay Calm on the Radio
17:52 – Company Command in the 7th Infantry Division
18:14 – Invading Panama
19:48 – The Friendly Firefight That Changed His Thinking
22:15 – Realizing They Had Been Shooting at Another U.S. Unit
25:21 – Learning Leadership as a Young Lieutenant
27:18 – The Sergeant Major Who Taught Him “Don’t Be in a Hurry to Die”
29:31 – Learning From Bad Leaders
31:07 – Preparing for Delta Selection
32:45 – Passing Selection & Joining the Unit
34:10 – Delta Force in the Early 1990s
35:54 – Counternarcotics Becomes a Major Mission
36:35 – Hunting Pablo Escobar in Colombia
38:17 – Building Teams Around Skills & Personality
39:08 – Learning How to Find People Who Don’t Want to Be Found
40:36 – From Colombia to Mogadishu
41:16 – Why He Distrusted Helicopter-Centric Assaults
42:24 – Black Hawks vs. Little Birds
43:16 – The Low-Visibility Approach He Wanted in Somalia
46:10 – The Hunt for Pablo Escobar
48:27 – How Colombian Forces Ultimately Found Escobar
49:25 – Arriving in Mogadishu After the Battle
49:53 – Searching for Mike Durant
52:00 – What Happened After Black Hawk Down
53:52 – Personality Conflicts & Interoperability Problems
57:51 – Somalia Becomes the Final Nail on Helicopter Assaults
58:48 – How Somalia Changed CQB & Special Operations
1:00:21 – Taking the Fight to the Enemy Instead of Sitting Still
1:02:20 – Bosnia: The “Living Laboratory” for Human Hunting
1:04:58 – Learning Low-Visibility Operations in Bosnia
1:07:11 – Humor, Creativity & Problem Solving in Combat
1:10:01 – Brainstorming Unconventional Ways to Stop a Target
1:19:52 – Transitioning From Career Stories to Common Sense Leadership Matters
1:20:41 – Why Pete Wrote the New Book
1:21:00 – Commanding Delta in Iraq
1:22:34 – Four Operators Wounded on a Baghdad Target
1:27:22 – A Ranger Asks Pete for Help
1:37:15 – Getting Access to the Pat Tillman Investigation
1:40:00 – Discovering the Pattern of Toxic Leadership
1:42:50 – Reconstructing the Pat Tillman Mission
1:43:15 – The Terrain Where Tillman Was Killed
1:45:02 – Why Pete Considered the Area Extremely Dangerous
1:50:00 – The Sync Matrix & Pressure From Higher Headquarters
1:59:59 – The Order to Split the Platoon
2:00:32 – The Platoon Leader Explains Why the Order Makes No Sense
2:02:06 – How Splitting the Platoon Broke Up Organic Teams
2:04:05 – Sending Troops Out Without Reliable Communications
2:09:57 – Why Rangers Are a “National Treasure”
2:14:49 – Who Pat Tillman Really Was as a Soldier
2:16:25 – How Toxic Leadership Set the Conditions for Disaster
2:16:54 – Reconstructing the Day Tillman Was Killed
2:17:29 – Entering the Canyon
2:18:49 – Serial 2 Struggles Through the Terrain
2:26:41 – Crossfire Begins Raining Into the Canyon
2:28:45 – Tillman Moves Into Position on the Spur
2:29:57 – Tillman Takes Fire From the South
2:31:30 – The Position That Became the Most Dangerous Place on the Battlefield
2:35:25 – Serial 2 Opens Fire Toward Tillman’s Position
2:35:42 – Pat Tillman Is Killed
2:36:03 – Why the Rangers Couldn’t Hear Him Yelling
2:38:08 – Could They Actually See Tillman’s Position?
2:40:02 – How the Investigation Judged the Rangers
2:43:40 – Why Pete Believes the Shooters Were Put in an Impossible Situation
2:45:19 – Accountability for Senior Leaders
2:47:04 – “The Cover-Up Was Worse Than the Incident”
2:47:51 – The Decision Not to Tell Kevin Tillman the Truth
2:49:57 – What Leadership Should Have Told the Tillman Family
2:53:54 – What Happened to the Senior Officers?
2:55:14 – Promotions Instead of Accountability
2:56:05 – Why Pat Tillman Was Revered by His Platoon
2:57:40 – Are Senior Officers Protected From Consequences?
3:02:09 – Audience Questions
3:05:44 – Lost Platoons & Conventional Wisdom
3:08:08 – Were Delta Snipers Involved in Escobar’s Death?
3:09:27 – Where Advanced Force Operations Came From
3:13:16 – Other Innovations From the Special Operations Community
3:19:58 – Military Working Dogs & the Evolution of the Program
3:21:49 – How Intelligence Support to Operators Has Evolved
3:22:40 – Could Pack Mules Still Have a Place in Modern Warfare?
3:24:11 – Closing Thoughts
3:24:30 – Pete’s Books & Leadership Trilogy
3:25:43 – Where to Find Pete’s Maps, Photos & Firefight Reconstruction

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We break down the mounting signs of another U.S.-Israel confrontation with Iran, including embassy drawdowns, renewed strike planning, Houthi attacks, and the growing vulnerability of Gulf infrastructure. We also discuss Israel’s elections, the war in Ukraine, Russia’s continuing losses, and the controversy over Starlink and Starshield being restricted while Russian attacks continue.
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00:00 – Start
00:30 – U.S. & Israel Prepare Options for New Iran Strikes
01:16 – Embassy Evacuations Across the Gulf
02:18 – Houthis Keep Hitting Saudi Arabia
02:49 – What Open-Source Intelligence Is Showing
04:26 – Ordered Departure From Saudi Arabia
06:42 – International Air Defense Help for the Saudis
07:18 – U.S. & Israeli Strike Planning Accelerates
08:33 – Why Hitting Iran’s Energy Infrastructure Could Backfire
09:15 – Can the U.S. Reach Iran’s Deep Nuclear Facilities?
10:20 – Deadly Attack in Jordan
10:45 – Why the Jordan Attack Is Such a Big Deal
12:13 – Could Iran Be Connected to the Jordan Attack?
13:06 – What Embassy Drawdowns Mean for Intelligence Collection
14:09 – Ordered Departure vs. Restricted Staffing
15:30 – The Signals Pointing Toward Another Escalation
16:04 – Iran Using the Houthis to Keep Pressure on the Region
17:08 – IRGC Moving Operations Into Civilian Infrastructure
18:08 – Why a “Three-Day War” With Iran Is Probably Fantasy
19:49 – Iran’s Remaining Missile & Drone Arsenal
21:52 – Hormuz, Mines & Attacks on Gulf Infrastructure
23:23 – Houthis, Iraqi Militias & Cyberattacks
24:24 – Is the U.S. Security Guarantee in the Gulf Disappearing?
25:58 – Gulf States May Start Looking to China & Russia
27:55 – Why Chinese Weapons Are Becoming More Attractive
28:34 – China Supplying Both Sides of the Conflict
30:07 – Could Economic Pressure Work Better Than Airstrikes?
32:14 – What a New U.S. Air Campaign Against Iran Might Look Like
34:00 – Has Iran Successfully Changed America’s War Aims?
36:13 – Could the U.S. Refocus on Iran’s Nuclear Program?
37:51 – Israeli Elections & the Timing of a Strike on Iran
39:20 – Israel’s Political Shift to the Right
40:33 – Support for a Two-State Solution Collapses
42:05 – Ultra-Orthodox Israelis & the IDF Draft Fight
43:50 – Israel Appears Ready for Another Iran Strike
45:27 – What an Eisenkot Government Could Mean
47:43 – Ukraine, Russia & the Starlink Controversy
48:30 – Zelensky Signals Openness to Freezing the Front Line
50:06 – The Debate Over Ukrainian Elections During Wartime
51:18 – Russia Talks Peace While Bombing Ukraine
53:52 – Moscow’s Demands Haven’t Changed
54:44 – Why Ukraine’s Refinery Strikes Matter
56:09 – Starlink & Starshield Restricted During Russian Attacks
57:22 – Is Washington Pressuring Zelensky More Than Putin?
58:17 – Can Russia Sustain These Casualty Rates?
59:05 – Russia Losing 1,200–1,500 Troops a Day
1:01:00 – Why Russia Still Has Room to Keep Fighting
1:01:58 – How Much Power Should SpaceX Have Over a War?
1:03:59 – Can Shareholders or Courts Restrain SpaceX?
1:05:18 – “Terms of Service” as a Wartime Excuse
1:06:11 – Russia Providing Targeting Data to Iran
1:06:55 – “Russia Is Our Adversary”
1:08:13 – Closing Thoughts

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Steven Woelk recounts his service aboard the USS Pueblo, its 1968 capture by North Korea, and the brutal 11 months he and his shipmates spent as prisoners. We also discuss the crew’s resistance inside captivity, the injuries and abuse he endured, their eventual release, and why he wrote Pig Fat Soup to keep the Pueblo story from being forgotten.

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00:00 – Start
01:01 – Stephen Joins the Navy
01:50 – Assigned to the USS Pueblo
03:02 – The Pueblo’s Intelligence Mission
04:09 – The Blue House Raid & the Road to the Pueblo Crisis
06:36 – USS Liberty & the Vulnerability of Spy Ships
08:00 – How Poorly Armed Was the Pueblo?
09:09 – The North Koreans Close In
10:52 – General Quarters
11:34 – Trying to Destroy Classified Material
13:03 – Why the Pueblo Couldn’t Destroy Its Secrets Fast Enough
14:42 – North Korea Opens Fire
17:11 – Stephen Is Hit by a 57mm Round
19:01 – Losing His Friend During the Attack
20:15 – North Korean Forces Board the Pueblo
21:47 – Being Taken Off the Ship
24:37 – The Crew Enters North Korean Captivity
26:04 – Wounds Become Severely Infected
27:02 – Surgery Without Anesthesia
31:04 – Transferred to a North Korean Hospital
32:18 – The North Korean Doctor Who Treated Him
35:35 – Forced Propaganda & Confessions
36:46 – Commander Bucher Refuses to Sign
38:05 – Life Inside the POW Camp
40:16 – How the Crew Resisted Their Captors
42:23 – Giving North Korea the Middle Finger
43:47 – The North Koreans Discover What It Means
44:42 – “Hell Week” Begins
47:23 – The Worst Beatings of His Captivity
47:41 – Did North Korea Try to Brainwash the Crew?
48:49 – Leadership Inside the Prison Camp
50:54 – Planning an Escape From Pyongyang
53:38 – Was U.S. Intelligence Watching the Prisoners?
54:47 – Signs That Release Might Be Coming
56:21 – Crossing the Bridge of No Return
57:31 – Fear of Returning Home to Face the Navy
58:42 – 11 Months in North Korean Captivity
58:57 – The Negotiations That Finally Freed the Crew
1:01:34 – Returning to the United States
1:04:00 – Telling His Father What Happened in North Korea
1:05:30 – The NSA Debriefing
1:06:42 – Leaving the Navy
1:08:05 – Building a Life After the Pueblo
1:08:31 – Why Stephen Wrote Pig Fat Soup
1:10:47 – Why the Pueblo Story Has Been Forgotten
1:12:04 – The Meaning Behind “Pig Fat Soup”
1:13:41 – Losing 55 Pounds in Captivity
1:14:00 – Life Today & Helping Other Veterans
1:16:57 – The Painting of the Pueblo Attack
1:19:14 – Final Thoughts

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John Kiriakou is a former CIA officer who worked as both an analyst and operations officer, serving on the Iraq portfolio, in Greece, and in Pakistan, where he helped lead the capture of Abu Zubaydah. He later became a prominent whistleblower on the CIA’s post-9/11 torture program, was prosecuted under the Espionage Act, served time in federal prison, and has since worked as an author, commentator, and lecturer.

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00:00 – Start
01:01 – John Kiriakou’s Upbringing & Greek-American Family
06:29 – Studying Middle Eastern Affairs & an Early Interest in Espionage
09:15 – The CIA Officer Posing as His College Professor
12:29 – Joining the CIA as an Analyst
14:53 – Briefing President George H.W. Bush During the Gulf War
16:58 – Working the Gulf War From CIA Headquarters
20:06 – Life After the Gulf War & Getting Burned Out on Iraq
22:30 – Writing a National Intelligence Estimate on Saddam Hussein
22:53 – Deciding to Leave Analysis for Operations
25:06 – Going Through CIA Operational Training
28:37 – Weapons, Explosives & Recruiting Spies
29:45 – Arriving in Athens as a CIA Case Officer
33:46 – Walk-Ins, Probes & Embassy Security
37:52 – CIA Disguises & Fooling the U.S. Ambassador
42:40 – The Terrorist Group 17 November
45:12 – The Assassination of British Defense Attaché Stephen Saunders
48:38 – 17 November Names Kiriakou in Its Manifesto
51:26 – Who Was Really Behind 17 November?
55:09 – How the Group Was Finally Unmasked
1:01:24 – Interrogating Carlos the Jackal
1:03:32 – 9/11 Changes Everything
1:04:44 – Watching the Second Plane Hit From CIA Headquarters
1:07:41 – Volunteering for the War on Terror
1:08:34 – Pakistan After 9/11: “The Wild West”
1:11:38 – Pakistan, the Taliban & the War Next Door
1:14:02 – The Two Faces of Pakistani Intelligence
1:15:51 – Capturing Abu Zubaydah
1:16:42 – Inside the CIA’s Torture Program
1:18:09 – Why Kiriakou Refused Torture Training
1:18:43 – Going Public About CIA Torture
1:21:17 – John Brennan Reopens the Case Against Him
1:21:40 – Charged Under the Espionage Act
1:22:34 – Facing 45 Years & Taking the Plea Deal
1:23:08 – Why John Brennan Wanted Him Prosecuted
1:23:32 – Obama’s Crackdown on National Security Leaks
1:25:57 – Heading to Federal Prison
1:26:24 – The Prison Assignment That Wasn’t What the Judge Ordered
1:29:21 – Learning How to Survive Federal Prison
1:31:30 – Becoming the Prisonhouse Appeal Writer
1:32:36 – Race, Gangs & the Social Structure of Prison
1:36:47 – How the Mafia Ran Prison Rackets
1:43:10 – Using CIA Tradecraft Behind Bars
1:46:18 – A Prisoner Puts a Contract on Kiriakou
1:48:19 – Getting Out of Prison & Starting Over
1:50:05 – Anger at the System & the People Who Were Never Prosecuted
1:53:13 – Where Is the Line Between Interrogation & Torture?
1:57:26 – Waterboarding, War Crimes & the Torture Debate
1:59:11 – Why Did the U.S. Invade Iraq?
2:02:03 – The WMD Intelligence Fight Inside Washington
2:04:00 – Did Overthrowing Saddam Hand Iraq to Iran?
2:05:45 – Why Kiriakou Went to Work for Sputnik
2:06:48 – Criticizing Russia While Working for Russian Media
2:12:50 – Life After Sputnik & What He’s Doing Now
2:15:43 – CIA Declassified & Digging Through Old Intelligence Files
2:18:16 – MKUltra & CIA History
2:18:25 – Audience Questions
2:29:47 – Would He Blow the Whistle Again?
2:42:48 – Public Trust, the CIA & Government Accountability
2:51:38 – Why John Brennan Avoided More Scrutiny
3:01:22 – Would a Presidential Pardon Restore His Pension?
3:02:18 – How Close Trump Came to Pardoning Him
3:04:52 – Thoughts on Trump Returning to Office
3:06:23 – How American Politics Has Flipped
3:07:36 – Final Thoughts

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