I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

As Christians, we all believe that Hell is real. But what is the exact nature of God's eternal punishment? Is Hell eternal conscious torment, or will it ultimately come to an end? This week, Kirk Cameron joins Frank to unpack the controversy that led him to host, 'Hellgate: The Christian Debate We're Afraid to Have', a roundtable discussion featuring biblical scholars Paul Copan, Chris Date, Gavin Ortlund, and Dan Paterson, examining what Scripture actually teaches about eternal punishment, conditionalism, and the justice of God. Frank and Kirk will tackle questions like:

What caused Kirk to reconsider the traditional doctrine of eternal conscious torment?
How did some prominent Christian leaders react to his comments?
What is conditionalism (annihilationism) and how does it compare to the traditional view of Hell?
What did the early church fathers believe about Hell?
Does conditionalism undermine the Gospel?
Is God unjust if he punishes people for all eternity in Hell?
Is eternal punishment overkill for temporal sins?
Do passages like Matthew 25:46 and Revelation 14 & 20 rule out annihilationism?
Is conditionalism heretical or a legitimate orthodox disagreement?
How should Christians debate difficult doctrines without fracturing unity within the Church?
Has Kirk's position on Hell changed since the roundtable discussion?

For more information on this important topic, be sure to watch the full 'Hellgate' discussion on Kirk’s YouTube channel. Not only is it a deep and thoughtful theological discussion, it's a great example of humility and graciousness on display among Christian brothers who sharply disagree with each other.

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Resources mentioned during the episode:
Donate to CrossExamined - https://donor.crossexamined.org/
Hellgate: The Christian Debate We're Afraid to Have - https://youtu.be/Ds3UbUsIaQs
Albert Mohler - The Deadly Danger of Remodeling Hell - https://youtu.be/7BBzQG4f-YE
Are We Wrong About Hell? The Kirk Cameron Show - https://youtu.be/_RflbA8Vt_Y
BRAVE Books - https://bravebooks.us/
Iggy & Mr. Kirk - https://bravebooks.us/pages/the-adventures-with-iggy-and-mr-kirk

We hear that technology will set us free and that identity is whatever we choose. What we’re not being told is how these promises unravel reality itself, leaving us restless and confused in a world where we can no longer tell what is true. Embrace the Truth president Abdu Murray returns to the program to continue the discussion about his brand-new book, 'Fake ID', and share practical tips for how we can navigate today's two cultural tsanamis of artificial intelligence and identity ideology. Together, Frank and Abdu answer questions like:

What does it mean to say that humans are made in the image of God?
Why does humanity collapse when objective truth goes away?
Why does increased digital connection make us feel more lonely and depressed?
What shocking story did no one talk about in mainstream media and how is it another example of collapsing reality?
Should we embrace our "authentic self"?
What are some practical tips and tools we can use to navigate the culture we're in right now?
Why is the distinction between epistemology and ontology so important?
What is the ultimate solution to all of this cultural confusion and chaos?
What was the providential encounter that Abdu recently experienced at MIT?

Reality doesn't go away just because you stop believing in it! And the reality is, our identity is found in the truth of Jesus Christ and Him alone. You're not just made in His image, but you can actually become a child of God by trusting in Jesus. The truth will set you free! Continue to pray that others may be released by the bondage of today's cultural lies. If you would like to receive a FREE copy of Abdu's 'Spot the Truth & Spot the Lie' online tool, be sure to email your request to [email protected].

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Resources mentioned during the episode:
Donate to CrossExamined - https://donor.crossexamined.org/
Embrace the Truth - https://embracethetruth.org/
Fake ID by Abdu Murray - https://a.co/d/e6Kt0Z0
Lead Psychologist at Tavistock Pleads Guilty to Pedophile Charge But Avoids Jail - https://bit.ly/4qU7qVL

What does it mean to be human? And what if artificial intelligence isn’t just changing technology, but undermining our view of reality? Author, apologist, and founder of Embrace the Truth, Abdu Murray, joins Frank to introduce his brilliant new book, 'Fake ID: How AI and Identity Ideology Are Collapsing Reality--and What To Do About It', that confronts the growing confusion around AI, identity ideology, and truth. In this episode, you’ll hear answers to questions like:

How is Abdu processing the murder of his father, and how did it impact his faith?
What happened at the trial?
What inspired Abdu to write 'Fake ID'?
How does AI relate to the modern world's obsession with identity ideology?
How has AI already managed to deceive high-level government officials?
Why are "hot takes" usually bad takes?
Is our reverence for truth a “distraction” that's getting in the way of progress?
Why does Catherine Maher (current CEO of NPR and former CEO of The Wikipedia Foundation) deny the concept of truth?
What has pushed our culture into a post-truth mindset?
How does Abdu describe the two cultural "tsunamis" that are collapsing reality?
How does the Bible describe and predict this current cultural moment and what's the solution?
What worldview drives transhumanism?
How does AI actually point to intelligent design?

Frank and Abdu will only scratch the surface of 'Fake ID', but there’s much more to uncover. Be sure to pre-order your copy of the book and return next week as they continue the conversation in the midweek podcast episode!

If you enjoyed this podcast episode PLEASE HELP US SPREAD THE TRUTH OF CHRISTIANITY BY SUPPORTING OUR MINISTRY USING THE LINK BELOW. 100% of your donation goes to ministry, 0% to buildings!

Resources mentioned during the episode:
Donate to CrossExamined.org - https://donor.crossexamined.org/
Embrace the Truth - https://embracethetruth.org/
Fake ID: How AI and Identity Ideology Are Collapsing Reality--and What To Do About It - https://a.co/d/e6Kt0Z0

Should Frank ‘cancel’ Megyn Kelly because they disagree on some issues? The previous podcast episode with Megyn sparked a wave of critical comments from listeners, and this week Frank addresses their concerns head-on. Next, he answers a series of listener questions related to biblical interpretation, legitimate reasons to divorce, qualifications for church elders, evidence for the origin of the universe, and other questions like:

Why did Frank invite Megyn Kelly on the show?
What is the genetic fallacy, and why is it important to talk to people with different views and opinions?
What should you say to those who are slandering Erika Kirk and TPUSA?
How does the acronym S.T.O.P. help us understand how to read and interpret the Bible?
What's the difference between a descriptive and prescriptive passage in the Bible?
What’s the danger of pulling Bible verses out of context?
How can the Biblical story be summarized in three short sentences?
What are the standards for elders and church leadership? Would being married and divorced three times disqualify someone?
Are abuse and abandonment the only legitimate grounds for divorce according to the Bible?
What is the recurring Big Bang theory and is the cosmological argument just a “God of the gaps” claim?

Do you have a question for Frank? Send it to [email protected] for a chance to be featured in a future podcast episode!

If you enjoyed this podcast episode PLEASE HELP US SPREAD THE TRUTH OF CHRISTIANITY BY SUPPORTING OUR MINISTRY USING THE LINK BELOW. 100% of your donation goes to ministry, 0% to buildings!

Resources mentioned during the episode:
Donate to CrossExamined - https://donor.crossexamined.org/
How to Interpret Your Bible Self-Paced Course - https://bit.ly/4asZCD6
Top 10 Reasons Why Borders Are Biblical (Part 1) - https://youtu.be/45oyId1HmiM
Top 10 Reasons Why Borders Are Biblical (Part 2) - https://youtu.be/EW58E7gj4bI
What the Bible Says About Divorce and Remarriage by Wayne Grudem - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1433568268
Divorce and Remarriage: EVERYTHING the Bible Says About It with Mike Winger - https://youtu.be/N2pC6ZikbYo
Is ABUSE and ADDICTION Grounds for Divorce? with Mike Winger - https://youtub.be/3vRU8eCHBlk
‘Change My Mind’ 2026 College Tour Schedule - https://crossexamined.org/dr-frank-turek-calendar/

Why is the biblical (and common sense) purpose of the government to punish wrongdoers being reversed in Minnesota? Federal agents are being blocked from arresting criminals, local officials are shielding criminals from accountability while sweeping massive amounts of fraud under the rug, and anti-ICE agitators are disrupting worship services without any local police response? Who is in the right, legally? 

Political journalist Megyn Kelly joins the program to expose the legal reality behind the radical activism happening in Minnesota and the growing conflict between the feds and the state. Drawing on her experience as a lawyer, Megyn explains clearly and concisely why sanctuary cities are defying federal authority, and why Americans (especially Christians) can no longer afford to stay silent as Islam quietly gains ground in the West.

Together, Frank and Megyn will answer questions like:
Why did Megyn become a lawyer and how did she make the shift into political journalism?
Does freedom of speech give us the right to protest and disrupt a worship service?
What is the FACE Act of 1994?
What's the connection between BLM and the church agitators in Minnesota?
What will happen to Tim Walz, Jacob Fry, and Don Lemon?
Why does ICE face resistance in blue states but not red states?
How are sanctuary cities complicating ICE's ability to enforce immigration laws?
What is the ultimate endgame of woke activism, according to Megyn?
Who has jurisdiction over immigration, the federal or state government?
Why is Islamophobia a bogus term?
Why should Americans take note of what's happening in the UK?

Winston Churchill once said, "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to put its pants on." If you're feeling overwhelmed after reading through the latest news headlines and need clear and concise explanations of what the law says about today's most complicated cultural issues, this is the episode for you!

Did you enjoy this podcast? PLEASE HELP US SPREAD THE TRUTH OF CHRISTIANITY BY SUPPORTING OUR MINISTRY USING THE LINK BELOW. 100% of your donation goes to ministry, 0% to buildings!

Resources mentioned during the episode:
Donate to CrossExamined - https://donor.crossexamined.org/
Top 10 Reasons Why Borders Are Biblical (Part 1) - https://youtu.be/45oyId1HmiM
Top 10 Reasons Why Borders Are Biblical (Part 2) - https://youtu.be/EW58E7gj4bI
Anti-ICE Agitators and Don Lemon Disrupt MN Church Service - https://youtu.be/0d4rMcF7phM
Church Agitator ARRESTED...But is Don Lemon Next? - https://youtu.be/lFOr6g4rWK4
Megyn’s website - https://www.megynkelly.com/
'Change My Mind' 2026 College Tour Schedule - https://crossexamined.org/dr-frank-turek-calendar/