Design Downtime

Love is in the air, when Helen Gaskell joins us to talk about writing rom com novels. She shares the story of her accidental path to publishing — from writing a fan letter to a mobile game, to landing a deal with just 10,000 words written. Helen reveals the surprising structural discipline behind the genre, and passionately defends romantic fiction as a misunderstood feminist art form, arguing it offers sophisticated social commentary and genuine emotional comfort. Her debut, The Regency Switch, is available now from HarperCollins.

Guest Bio
Helen Gaskell (she/her) is a freelance lead content designer based in the UK. After ten years at the BBC as a content producer she now works on GOV.UK projects and has spent time at over a dozen central government departments. Most notably, she worked on the first public-facing AI-driven project for the Foreign Office, and wrote the UK government's guidance on AI for services.

Links
The Regency Switch: https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-regency-switch/helen-gaskell/9780008769574
Helen’s author website: http://helengaskellwriter.co.uk/
Helen’s design website: https://www.helengaskell.co.uk/

Credits
Cover design by Raquel Breternitz.

Get your fill of chlorophyll, when Mike Perrotti joins us to talk about his passion for plants. He shares how a therapist's recommendation to add greenery to combat seasonal depression unexpectedly spiraled into a tropical obsession. Mike describes how he catches himself coveting rare expensive plants and consciously redirects back to the meditative joy of caregiving and cultivation. He also reveals how managing a diverse collection in a low-light apartment requires the same constraint-driven creative thinking as design.

Guest Bio
Mike Perrotti (he/him) is a Product Designer at Datadog living in Brooklyn with an assortment of plants and reptiles, a cat, and a loving partner who tolerates it all. He spends his weekends in his lush greenhouse by day and on dark, foggy dancefloors by night. Before moving to New York in 2012, he studied art in Philadelphia, then fell sideways into UI design and frontend development. He later went on to become a major contributor to various design systems, including GitHub's Primer. Along the way he developed a pattern of picking up hobbies and going completely and shamelessly overboard with them. His houseplant hobby snuck up on him and (predictably) spiraled into an obsession.

Links
Mike on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-perrotti-81402572/
Mike on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mperrotti_

Credits
Cover design by Raquel Breternitz.

It’s time to wax on, wax off as Daniel Sanchez Griborio joins us to talk about his lifelong love of karate. He describes how his parents enrolled him at age five, and how the structure and rigor created a sense of belonging. Daniel explains karate's core philosophy of seeking perfection while understanding it's unattainable, and how focusing on incremental progress sustained him through five consecutive years of losing in the first round of nationals before finally winning at age 17. He talks about karate becoming an anchor and a reminder that "what you put in, you get out," shaping how he approaches everything from work to parenting.

Guest Bio
Daniel Sanchez Griborio (he/him) is a design leader at Scotiabank and a lead instructor in User Experience Design at BrainStation. With over 15 years of experience in various design roles, he has held positions such as Director of Product Design and Senior Manager of User Experience at Scotiabank, guiding the creation of user-centric digital banking solutions. Daniel has also contributed to organizations like The Felt Store and TD, where he has focused on enhancing design strategies and e-commerce experiences. He possesses a passion for empowering future designers with industry insights and real-world applications.

Links
Daniel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielsanchezgriborio/
Daniel on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealdanielsan/

Credits
Cover design by Raquel Breternitz.

In the first episode of season 5, Mike Monteiro is "still listening to wax, he's not using the CD" when he joins us to share about his lifelong love of vinyl records. From his parents' 70s console record player to a 4,000-record music room, he traces how music became a path of self-discovery. Mike explains how he keeps track of his incredible collection, talks about the Platonic idea of the prefect record store, and makes a passionate case against audiophile gatekeeping: however you listen to music, you're doing it right.

Guest Bio
Mike Monteiro (he/him) is the co-founder and Design Director of Mule. He writes and speaks frequently about the craft, ethics, and business of design. He's written a bunch of books, including Design Is a Job, Ruined by Design, and the brand new How to die (& other stories), which is only tangentially about design. He lives in San Francisco, with his wife Erika and their dog Rupert. He has been buying vinyl his entire life, and currently has about 4,000 records.

Links
Mike’s website: https://www.mikemonteiro.com/
Mike’s Good News newsletter: https://buttondown.com/monteiro
Muhammad Ali inserting a 45 into the record player of his 1959 Cadillac Eldorado: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1edo3g1/muhammad_ali_inserting_a_45_into_the_record/

Credits
Cover design by Raquel Breternitz.

In this conversation, host Guy Segal and returning guest Pavel Samsonov challenge the recurring claim that the design process is dead — arguing that for many, it was never really alive in the first place. Pavel makes the case that process isn't a rigid framework imposed from above, but a set of self-imposed, iterative constraints that help designers make better decisions. The conversation explores how factory-era management thinking and agency-world deliverable culture have distorted our understanding of what process actually means, and why most "process transformations" fail because they serve managerial control rather than the people doing the work. Pavel and Guy also dig into the social dimension of design — how effective process is as much about managing stakeholder relationships and intake as it is about creating a decision-making framework that allows you to say "no".

Guest Bio
Pavel Samsonov (he/him) is a Principal Experience Designer at Justworks in New York. His approach to product & UX draws from his research at Nielsen Norman Group, experience building design practice at AWS, and managing product teams at Bloomberg.
Pavel often describes himself as a Problem Designer, because the biggest influence on the solution is always the framing of the problem.

Links
Pavel's weekly newsletter, Product Picnic: https://productpicnic.beehiiv.com/
Influence by Design, Pavel's full-day workshop with Active Voice HQ: https://www.throughlineconf.com/events/philadelphia-2026

Credits
Cover design by Kristine Planche (inspired by Raquel Breternitz).