And The Writer Is...with Ross Golan

Today’s guest is a Grammy-winning songwriter, global pop architect, and one of the most quietly influential voices shaping modern music across borders.
Before the world heard her voice, she spent years training inside the K-pop system — learning discipline, structure, and endurance long before recognition ever arrived. When the system didn’t know what to do with her, she pivoted. Slowly. Intentionally. And built a career that would eventually be heard everywhere.
Now, as a songwriter whose work spans K-pop, pop, animation, and beyond — and as an artist stepping into her own voice — she represents a different kind of success: one built patiently, shaped by pressure, and defined by longevity rather than speed.

And The Writer Is… Ejae!
In this episode of And The Writer Is…, Ejae opens up about:
The reality of the K-pop training system and what it actually teaches you about discipline and survival
Rejection and why her voice didn’t fit the moment — and how that shaped her writing
Learning to work alone after years inside a rigid system
How songwriting became a safer, more powerful entry point than performing
The pivot that reframed her career and led to global success

And much more…

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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:30 Early life & finding music
6:10 Inside K-Pop training
9:00 Ejae's writing process...
28:00 Rejection from auditioning to be a K-Pop Idol... and $5 Karaoke training to pass.
41:00 Ejae sings her first song
41:37 Sponsor Spotlight: NMPA
42:18 Sponsor Spotlight: Splice
14:45 Discipline, pressure, and identity
23:20 Being let go by the system
26:19 The truth about the K-Pop system
30:40 Rebuilding in isolation
39:15 Discovering songwriting as power
50:00 K-Pop's ultimate evaluation: Auditioning to debut
50:37 Ejae's rejection and rock bottom... and the pivot that would change everything
56:10 Global songs & delayed recognition
1:00:00 How she wrote her first songs
1:04:00 Writing her first song for film
1:07:00 Writing 'Psycho' for Red Velvet at her first session
1:13:00 K-Pop vs Pop music... And the reference to 'Psycho'
1:14:00 K-Pop Demon Hunters
1:20:00 The story behind 'Golden'
1:26:00 The original 'Golden' voice memo...
1:30:00 The process of co-writing the songs for K-Pop Demon Hunters

Hosted by Ross Golan
Produced by Joe London & Jad Saad
Creative Directed by Jad Saad
Post-Production VFX by Pratik Karki
Watercolor Art by Michael White
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Today's guest is a festival headliner, Grammy-winning songwriter, and the architect of a sound that accidentally changed the course of folk, country, and alternative music forever.

From singing as a family around a kitchen table to headlining arenas with banjos and mandolins, Marcus Mumford built something no one saw coming — and has spent years learning not to get in his own way once the stakes got real.
Now, as a solo artist and band leader, he's as honest about the creative process as he is about the pitfalls of ego, overthinking, and the quiet ways success can sabotage itself.

And The Writer Is... Marcus Mumford of Mumford & Sons!

In this episode of And The Writer Is…, Marcus opens up about:
His theory of "catching" songs rather than forcing them
How Mumford & Sons structured equal ownership to stay together
What Bob Dylan said to him that he wants tattooed on his body
The Pharrell moment that reframed his entire relationship to success
Why showing up — again and again — is the only way judgment is earned
And much more...

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Every week we go deep with the most interesting creatives in music.
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A special thank you to our sponsors…
Our lead sponsor, NMPA — the National Music Publishing Association. Your support means the world to us.
And @splice — the best sample library on the market. Period.

Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:00 Desert Island Mix: Radiohead
3:00 The Greatest Band of All Time?
7:00 A Hilarious Story About Bob Dylan — His Songwriting Grandfather
11:00 How Mumford & Sons Structured Equal Ownership
13:35 How Mumford & Sons Writes Music
17:00 Where Great Music Comes From
18:35 His Songwriting Ethos: "Catching Fairies"
22:00 Favorite Poetry and Getting Lost in Words Before Writing
23:46 Childhood
25:00 Growing Up in Church
33:50 Why Drummers Make the Best Producers
50:00 Testing Demos on the Road
52:00 Working on His Solo Record
58:00 The Empowering Pharrell Story
1:03:00 The Chris Martin Story
1:05:00 Rapid Fire
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Today's guest is a multi-platinum DJ, producer, and songwriter who turned personal devastation into one of electronic music's most emotionally resonant careers.

From opioid addiction in high school to wilderness therapy at rock bottom, he rebuilt his entire life in Denver—sober, alone, and teaching himself music theory from scratch.

Now 13 years clean, he's become a voice for mental health in a scene built on excess, collaborating with Jon Bellion, Halsey, Teddy Swims, and countless others to create music that connects survivors.
His latest album, Odyssey, is a cinematic journey through heartbreak, recovery, and the sessions that saved his life.
And The Writer Is... Illenium!

In this episode of And The Writer Is…, Nick Miller (Illenium) opens up about:
* Moving every two years as a kid and never having roots
* Falling into opiates at 15 and hitting bottom by 2011
* Moving to Denver alone and getting sober at 21
* The Good Things Fall Apart session (and demo)
* How music saved his life entirely
and much more...

Hit the subscribe button and turn on notifications...
Every week we go deep with the most interesting creatives in music.

Follow us on socials at @andthewriteris

A special thank you to our sponsors…
Our lead Sponsor, NMPA— the National Music Publishing Association. Your support means the world to us.
And @splice — the best sample library on the market. Period.

Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:00 Childhood and Moving Every Two Years
5:00 Getting Into Music Through Tiesto's Album
6:30 The Electronic Artist That Inspires Industry Musicians
9:00 Getting Sober—His Rough Patch in 2011
10:00 Escapism and Addiction
12:30 The Wilderness Program That Saved His Life
16:30 Getting Lost in Music and How He Learned to Create
17:30 Illenium's Roots
18:00 Learning From Other Producers and YouTube
20:00 Thinking of Sound as a Picture
21:00 World Building and Finding His Brand… and His Purpose
23:00 Ross Opens Up on How Music Saved Him
24:00 The Personality Trait All Successful Creatives Have
26:00 How He Popped Off
31:00 Working With Unknown Artists and How He Picks Them
33:00 How to Find Your Sound
34:30 NMPA and Splice Midroll
41:00 Touring—The Downs After a Show
44:00 Good Things Fall Apart
47:00 Collaboration in DJ Culture
49:00 Why He Doesn't Chase Big Songs
54:24 COVID
1:13:00 Gaming on Tour
1:17:00 Good Things Fall Apart Demo

Hosted by Ross Golan
Produced by Joe London and Jad Saad
Creative Direction by Jad Saad
Post-Production VFX by Pratik Karki
Guest Watercolor Art by Michael White
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Today's guest is a Grammy-winning songwriter, producer, and performer, best known as one-third of The Smeezingtons and a foundational creative force behind Bruno Mars’ career. He has co-written and helped shape some of the most influential pop songs of the last two decades, including Just the Way You Are, Billionaire, Locked Out of Heaven, When I Was Your Man, 24K Magic, Nothin’ on You, and many more...

And The Writer Is... Bruno Mars!

In this episode of And The Writer Is…, Philip Lawrence tells his story in full—for the first time
- How a $5 bus pass led to Bruno Mars
- The hidden cost of early success
- Real stories behind pop’s biggest records
- The pivot that made everything 'click'
- A breakdown at the peak—and the call that brought him back
and much more...

A special thank you to our sponsors…
Our lead Sponsor, NMPA— the National Music Publishing Association. Your support means the world to us.

And @splice — the best sample library on the market. Period.

Chapters:
0:00 Intro
4:00 “I Just Might” and Bruno Mars
10:31 Childhood and Not Feeling Good Enough
14:00 Early Career
20:00 Leaving School and Auditioning for Disney
26:00 The Disney Break Room: The Beginning of His Journey
27:00 His First Session
30:00 Meeting Steven Seagal
34:00 Moving to LA
37:09 Losing Everything He Had So Far
39:00 Finding His Manager
43:00 Finding His Way Through the Industry
44:42 His Ego Death
45:50 The Pivot That Really Started His Career
46:50 Be Friends With All the Assistants
47:20 NMPA and Splice
48:45 How to Write for Radio
49:30 Developing His Songwriting Ethos
50:29 Spending His Last $5 to Meet Bruno Mars (Before He Was Bruno Mars)
1:05:09 How Bruno Stayed on His Early Hook Placements
1:07:28 The Story of Nothin’ on You
1:09:20 Billionaire
1:11:50 Just the Way You Are
1:19:15 Talking to the Moon
1:20:49 Ross’s CeeLo Story
1:23:00 “F*** You” Was Not Supposed to Happen
1:28:00 How Locked Out of Heaven Happened
1:33:22 When I Was Your Man / Flowers (Miley Cyrus)
1:36:50 Five Songs He Wishes He Wrote
1:38:34 24K Magic
1:40:36 His Breakdown at the Peak of Success
1:48:45 The Comeback Phone Call With Bruno
1:50:18 APT
1:52:39 Advice for Songwriters + Rapid-Fire Questions

Hosted by Ross Golan
Produced by Joe London and Jad Saad
Post-Production VFX by Pratik Karki
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Today's guest has quietly shaped the sound of a generation.

He has written and produced some of the biggest songs of the last 15 years—from One Direction's "Story of My Life" to Niall Horan's "Slow Hands," Sabrina Carpenter's "Taste", Teddy Swims' "Lose Control," and Olivia Dean's "So Easy to Fall in Love."

A true songwriter's songwriter, John Ryan doesn't just chase hits—he shapes careers, defines sounds, and knows exactly when inspiration is knocking.

In this episode, John breaks down what it really takes to stay relevant across multiple eras, why authenticity always wins, and how he went from a Berklee kid living in his manager's parents' house to becoming one of the most trusted voices in pop music.

We talk about:

- The hardest years of his career
- The real batting rate of the best songwriters
- Meeting Sabrina Carpenter and Teddy Swims
- Working with One Direction and losing Liam
- Gems upon GEMS for up and coming musicians, songwriters, and producers

and a special live performance of some of his biggest hits.

A special thank you to our sponsors…
Our lead Sponsor, NMPA— the National Music Publishing Association. Your support means the world to us.

And @splice — the best sample library on the market. Period.

Chapters:
00:00 Intro: John Ryan
02:30 How John Got Into the Music Industry
06:30 Songs from Eighth Grade & Writing Early
10:30 Writing Like a Kid Again (The Picasso Effect)
13:00 Berklee, Pro Tools & Learning the Craft
17:00 How Many Songs Actually Make It Out?
19:30 Maroon 5’s “Cold”
21:30 Niall Horan: From One Direction to Solo Artist
24:15 The Lowest Point of His Career
26:00 The Realization That Saved Him
28:00 Meeting Teddy Swims & Sabrina Carpenter
31:00 Social Media, Virality & “I Don’t Have That on My Phone”
33:30 Writing “Heaven” with Niall Horan
34:00 Sabrina Carpenter’s “Feather”
36:00 Stop Chasing Numbers. Start Betting on People
38:00 Co-Writing with Amy Allen
41:56 How John Ryan Produces Songs
44:50 Country Music & Expanding Taste
47:20 Liam Payne
51:03 Olivia Dean – “So Easy to Fall in Love”
56:45 John Ryan’s Take on Collaboration
58:50 Writing “Tears” with Sabrina Carpenter
59:40 Managing Life, Energy & Relationships
1:02:01 “Steal My Girl” & “Night Changes” Should’ve Been Bigger
1:04:52 Choosing Great People Over “Sure Things”
1:07:00 John Plays & Sings His Hits
1:20:00 Why 10,000 Hours Isn’t Enough
1:21:06 GEM: Ruthlessly A/B Your Music to Get Better

Hosted by Ross Golan
Produced by Joe London and Jad Saad
Edited by Jad Saad
Post-Production VFX by Pratik Karki
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.