Trail Runner Nation

In this episode, we are joined by Michael Miller to discuss his book Run Like a Rarámuri : Stories and Wisdoms from the Sierra Tarahumara and Running Long and his deep connection to the Indigenous Rarámuri "running people" of Mexico's Sierra Tarahumara. Drawing on years spent living among the community, Michael shares how running is woven into their social fabric as a celebration of resilience, nature, and togetherness rather than competition or performance. The conversation explores powerful cultural concepts like korima, the practice of sharing without expectation, and how movement in nature can restore balance and contentment in modern life. Michael also reflects on the legacy of Micah True (Caballo Blanco) and the evolution of the Ultramarathon Caballo Blanco race, which now brings together runners from around the world while supporting local communities. We consider what trail runners can learn from the Rarámuri about simplicity, presence, and reconnecting with the deeper purpose of running. Ultimately, the discussion suggests that "running like a Rarámuri" is less about technique and more about learning to live with gratitude, connection, and joy.
Check out the non-profit True Messages for more information and how to support these projects, and these other links:
Ultra Caballo Blanco

 
Copper Canyons

 
Entre Amigos Camps

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Timestamps
0:00 Intro to Michael Miller and Run Like a Rarámuri

2:05 What makes the Ultramarathon Caballo Blanco unique

6:15 Who the Rarámuri are and how Born to Run shaped their global story

14:10 Running as culture: traditional games, community, and connection

20:06 Michael's personal journey to the Sierra and why this became a passion project

29:37 Training vs. lifestyle: how the Rarámuri develop endurance naturally

34:52 Is the book about running… or about living?

44:42 Korima explained: sharing, gratitude, and the social fabric of the Rarámuri

51:11 Supporting the community: nonprofit work and how listeners can help

58:13 Closing reflections on Micah True's legacy and running free

In this episode of Trail Runner Nation's Aging as an Athlete series, along with Krissy Moehl, we welcome elite ultrarunner and therapist Darcy Piceu for a thoughtful conversation about longevity in endurance sports. Drawing on more than two decades of racing at the highest level, Darcy explains that there is no "magic pill" for staying in the sport long term, emphasizing instead the importance of self-care, strength work, listening to the body, and adapting training as athletes age. The discussion explores the mental side of endurance, including acceptance of changing performance, learning to manage negative thoughts during long races, and developing the wisdom that comes from decades of experience. Darcy also shares how mindfulness and time in nature play a powerful role in both mental health and athletic performance, something she incorporates into her therapy practice. We reflect on the evolving identity of an athlete over time, balancing competitiveness with enjoyment, family life, and other pursuits beyond running. We highlight that staying in the sport for decades is less about chasing podiums and more about cultivating resilience, perspective, and a lasting love for the trail.
Check out Darcy's Therapy practice, "Therapy in Action" or get in touch with her [email protected]. 
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
1:00 – Darcy's Background: Elite Runner and Therapist
3:30 – What Creates Longevity in the Sport?
6:00 – The Mental Side of Aging as an Athlete
9:00 – Mindfulness, Stress, and Mental Training
12:45 – Mental Toughness in Ultrarunning
17:30 – The Power of Nature and Trail Therapy
23:00 – Managing Focus During Long Races
29:00 – Racing for the Podium vs Racing for the Experience
31:30 – How Darcy Found Ultrarunning
35:30 – Hardrock, Motherhood, and Career Balance
38:30 – Training Philosophy for Longevity
41:00 – The Wednesday Women's Run in Boulder
44:00 – Identity Beyond Running
48:00 – What Makes a Race Truly Successful?
52:30 – Advice to Younger and Older Versions of Yourself
56:30 – The Mental vs Physical Performance Question
1:00:15 – Therapy in Action and Closing Thoughts

In this episode of Trail Runner Nation, we sit down with filmmaker Dylan Harris to talk about his powerful new film, The Cut-Off. Instead of following the front of the pack, the film shines a light on the runners fighting the clock at aid stations, chasing the courage it takes simply to continue. Dylan shares the inspiration behind the project, the stories that moved him most, and what the back-of-the-pack reveals about grit, community, and the true spirit of trail running. This conversation is a reminder that endurance isn't just about speed; it's about persistence, heart, and refusing to quit when the margin gets thin.
Links:
SomoCollective: Dylan's production company
Arivaipa Running: Producer and site of the film, Cocadona 250
Lucy's Dad Film: another of Dylan's films
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Time Stamps
1:30 – Introducing Dylan Harris and the story behind The Cut-Off
5:00 – Why focus on back-of-the-pack runners?
10:30 – The emotional reality of chasing aid station cutoffs
18:00 – Stories from filming: moments of grit, struggle, and triumph
26:00 – What the back-of-the-pack reveals about trail culture
34:00 – The community factor: volunteers, crews, and fellow runners
42:00 – Lessons from the film for everyday runners
50:00 – Where to watch The Cut-Off and what's next for Dylan
55:00 – Final thoughts and closing

In this episode, we are joined by Cliff Pittman, Coaching Development Director for CTS.  We take a practical look at VO₂ max and what it really means for everyday runners. We explore whether this popular performance metric is truly essential, how much it matters for trail and ultra athletes, and where it can be misunderstood or overemphasized. The conversation cuts through the numbers to focus on what actually helps runners train smarter, stay healthy, and improve long-term performance. If you've ever wondered whether your VO₂ max score is a guiding light or just another shiny data point, this episode brings clarity and perspective from the trail. 
Key Topics
What is VO2 max and why does it matter for ultra runners?
The accuracy and limitations of wearable VO2 max estimates
How VO2 max relates to performance, aging, and training adaptability
The concept of fractional utilization versus maximum effort
Strategies for incorporating VO2 max training into your season
Cross-training options like cycling and swimming for low-impact VO2 max work
Monitoring progress with lab versus field testing and subjective feedback
The importance of training variety and maintaining the entire aerobic engine
Practical workout templates: intervals, recovery, and dosage over seasons
How strength training and muscle mass influence VO2 max
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Timestamps
00:00 - Overview of the podcast topic: VO2 max importance for ultra runners
02:31 - Christian Blumenfeldt's unbelievable VO2 max of 101.1 — reality versus perception
03:26 - Simplified definition of VO2 max — oxygen consumption capacity of the body
04:43 - Limitations of wearable VO2 max estimates and lab versus field testing accuracy
05:34 - Why VO2 max is only part of the performance equation, not the whole story
07:13 - How VO2 max predicts short race performance but less so in ultradistance events
08:11 - The impact of fatigue resistance, durability, and fueling on ultramarathon success
09:31 - The significance of fractional utilization (operating below VO2 max ceiling)
10:13 - Can VO2 max be manipulated through training? Early season versus peak preparation
12:00 - The endurance spectrum: training both VO2 max and aerobic base for a well-rounded system
13:35 - Visualizing training as a string; raising ceiling versus improving utilization
14:34 - Should runners push to their VO2 max ceiling or focus on fractional utilization?
17:17 - Training strategies: balancing intensity, recovery, and avoiding injury during VO2 max work
20:04 - Substituting high-intensity VO2 work with cross-training (cycling, swimming) to reduce impact
21:28 - Monitoring other critical metrics: lactate threshold, recovery pace, subjective feedback
23:53 - The significance of individualized, periodized VO2 max training blocks
26:42 - The importance of patience, gradual progression, and listening to your body
28:55 - How to incorporate VO2 max sessions into your weekly plan: frequency, duration, and recovery
33:16 - The role of training specificity and modality as competition approaches
41:38 - Maintaining fitness and VO2 max as we age through consistent, varied training
43:33 - Linking strength training and lean muscle mass to VO2 max improvements
46:51 - Cross-training options and managing impact: cycling, swimming, hill repeats
48:37 - Final tips for beginners and experienced runners on starting VO2 max work safely
52:12 - The future of training: evidence-based approaches and coaching support at CTS

In this episode, Alex Hutchinson rejoins Trail Runner Nation discuss why muscle is the real engine behind endurance, performance, and long-term health, especially as runners get older. The conversation explores
how and why we lose muscle over time,
why this decline matters for speed, resilience, and injury prevention,
and the encouraging truth that much of it is reversible.
Alex explains the critical role of strength training, the importance of intensity and progressive load, and how endurance athletes can balance running with the work needed to maintain power. The discussion also challenges common myths about aging, showing that performance losses are not inevitable but often the result of training gaps rather than biology alone. For aging athletes and lifelong runners, this episode offers a practical roadmap for staying strong, capable, and competitive for decades.
This discussion began from Alex's review of Michael Joseph Gross' book, "Stronger: The Untold Story of Muscle in Our Lives"
Key Topics:
The evolving understanding of muscle as a core component of human health, not just aesthetics or performance.
Historical perspectives on muscle research, from ancient Greece to misconceptions over the centuries.
The modern shift towards heavy lifting among elite athletes and implications for older adults.
The inspiring work of Maria Fiaturone Singh on elderly resistance training and outcomes in musculoskeletal health.
Practical advice for incorporating strength training into daily life with minimal equipment.
The psychological and physical joys of feeling the movement of heavy lifting with purpose.
How resistance training enhances posture, independence, and injury prevention in aging.
Personal journeys—from bodybuilding to running, and reintegration of strength work in midlife.
Overcoming mental barriers to strength training: finding routines you enjoy and tracking progress.
The importance of consistent, accessible strength habits like bodyweight exercises and small routines.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Welcome and episode overview: Why muscle matters for longevity and performance
03:04 - Historical insights on human perceptions of muscle across centuries
06:07 - The pioneers redefining muscle's role in aging and health span
09:49 - Debunking myths about muscle decline after 60 and implications for older adults
13:23 - The prejudice within medicine and sports communities against strength training
14:37 - Maintaining posture and independence through muscle health
18:11 - How elite athletes have adopted heavy lifting techniques
21:23 - Personal stories: Don's bodybuilding background and Alex's running evolution
24:39 - The joys of feeling powerful and acting upon the environment through strength
28:09 - Practical tips for integrating resistance exercises into everyday routines
34:30 - How tracking progress enhances motivation and long-term adherence
39:38 - Finding your personal motivation and joy in strength training
41:33 - Quick resistance exercises on the trail or at home
43:23 - The impact of efficient strength habits on overall well-being
Resources & Links:
Stronger: A Scientist's Guide to the Power of Muscle — by Michael Joseph Gross
The Endure: Mind, Body, and the Curiously Elastic Limits of Human Performance
The Explorer's Gene: Why We Seek Big Challenges, New Flavors, and the Blank Spots on the Map
Outside Online Sweat Science
Connect with Alex Hutchinson:
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AlexHutchinson.net
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