In this episode Mau Díaz sits down with Jessie Zapo—ultrarunner, art therapist, multidisciplinary artist, and community builder. Known for blending movement, expression, and healing, Jessie has carved out a unique path where running, art, and care for others converge. Her work is rooted in the belief that the body is not only a vehicle for endurance, but also a medium for emotional and creative release. Mau and Jessie begin by tracing her early journey as a runner—how it started, what kept her coming back, and how it evolved into something much deeper than physical training. Jessie shares how running has helped her process her own inner landscape, while simultaneously strengthening the communities she’s been part of. For her, running is both a solitary and collective act—an anchor in difficult times and a bridge to meaningful connection with others. The conversation then moves into the rich intersection of running, art, and healing. Jessie opens up about her work as an art therapist and how movement fuels her creative practice. She explores the idea of running as ritual, as a canvas, and as a tool for transformation—not only for herself but for those she supports in her community. This episode is a powerful reflection on how running can go beyond the physical to become a pathway to wholeness, creativity, and care. Follow Jessie: @jessiezapo
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Barefoot and Beyond: Reconnecting with Nature Through Running with Nicholas Charlier
In this episode of the Beyond Running Podcast, host Mau Díaz sits down with Nicholas Charlier, a leader in the health and movement industry with over 13 years of experience. Nicholas has built a career around creating impactful programs that inspire connection, healing, and a deeper understanding of the human body. As the driving force behind Vivobarefoot’s community programs and the innovative VivoHealth platform, Nicholas has integrated education, research, and coaching into a global network that supports a holistic approach to well-being. Together, Mau and Nicholas go into the transformative power of movement and the art of reconnecting with nature through running. Nicholas shares his insights on the benefits of barefoot running, exploring how it allows us to engage with our surroundings more authentically and fosters a stronger connection to the natural world. They discuss how healing, both physical and mental, is deeply intertwined with movement and how running can be a profound practice of mindfulness and presence. Nicholas also shares his journey as a trail runner, competing in half-marathon and marathon distances, and how his personal experiences have shaped his professional philosophy. This episode offers a thoughtful conversation about the intersection of running, wellness, and community, leaving listeners inspired to explore their own paths to deeper connection, healing, and joy through movement.
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Moving with Intention: The Zen of Running with Maxime Galpin
In this episode of the Beyond Running podcast, Mau Díaz sits down with Maxime Galpin, a runner, meditator, and guide for Aire Libre’s French Pyrenees experience. Maxim has spent years exploring the intersection of movement and mindfulness, creating Zen and Run—a practice that merges running with meditation, helping people connect more deeply with themselves and the natural world. Together, they explore the ways in which running can become more than just a physical pursuit—it can be a form of presence, healing, and inner exploration. Their conversation begins with the magic of the French Pyrenees experience, where Maxime leads runners through breathtaking landscapes while fostering a deep sense of connection among participants. Mau and Maxime reflect on how the shared journey of running in these remote mountains creates a powerful bond, allowing people to slow down, be present, and truly engage with both nature and each other. This profound sense of community and presence sets the stage for their deeper discussion on Zen and Run and the philosophy behind merging meditation with movement. Maxime shares how mindfulness has transformed his own running practice, turning each step into an act of awareness and grounding. He and Mau discuss the benefits of slowing down—both in running and in life—and how tuning into the present moment can make movement more fulfilling. Whether you're an experienced runner or someone looking for a deeper connection to the sport, this episode offers insights into how running can be a gateway to greater self-awareness, balance, and joy.
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The Poetry of Running, with Josh Lynott
In this episode of the Beyond Running Podcast, Mau Díaz reconnects with writer, poet, and endurance runner Josh Lynott for a compelling follow-up conversation. After previously appearing on Josh’s podcast, Mau brings the dialogue full circle as they explore the deep and surprising connections between running and art. Together, they delve into how movement can be more than just physical effort—it can transform into a form of creative expression and storytelling. Josh shares his unique perspective on running as an art form, drawing from his experiences as a writer and endurance athlete. He reflects on the parallels between the discipline required in training and the creative process of writing, highlighting how both involve perseverance, vulnerability, and the pursuit of meaning. The conversation touches on the ways running and art intersect to create stories, evoke emotions, and allow us to connect with ourselves and the world in profound ways. This episode invites you to see running through a new lens—not just as a sport or activity but as a deeply creative and human act. Whether you’re a runner, an artist, or someone who seeks inspiration in the everyday, this conversation with Josh Lynott will leave you with fresh insights on the power of movement, creativity, and storytelling.
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Breaking Ground for Trans and Non-Binary Representation with Cal Calamia
In this inspiring episode of the Beyond Running Podcast, host Leslie Payro sits down with Cal Calamia—an accomplished trans marathoner, ultramarathoner, and inclusivity activist. Cal, who uses they/he pronouns, has been a trailblazer for non-binary visibility in the running world. From becoming the first non-binary winner of both Bay to Breakers and the San Francisco Marathon, to advocating for the inclusion of non-binary categories in prestigious races like the Boston and New York Marathons, Cal has made waves in the sport. In this conversation, Cal shares their journey from competing at Saint Louis University to advocating for gender inclusivity at major races, including their recent push for non-binary representation in the Berlin Marathon. Cal also reflects on the founding of the Non-Binary Run Club, their work as an educator, and their passion for poetry, which is captured in their collection San Franshitshow. Tune in to hear Cal’s personal story of resilience, the power of community, and their dedication to pushing for a more inclusive future in marathon running. This is an episode you won’t want to miss!
A series of deep, intimate conversations with some of the most creative and forward thinking minds in sports, wellness, spirituality, human rights, nutrition, science and technology, where we explore the power of running and mindfulness as catalysts for positive action, self-knowledge, exploration, and health.
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