After the Deluge

Jonathan Bernstein is a Senior Research Editor for Rolling Stone and author of the new book What Do You Do When You’re Lonesome? — the authorized biography of Justin Townes Earle. You can buy it now. We talk about the night we learned of Justin's death, songs about heroin and crack, writing descriptively about finger picking, Justin made his father the villain, the last quarter-century of roots music, O Brother, Where Art Thou?, fashion, self-sabotage, Chicago, "Movin' On," writing a book about someone who bends the truth and/or lies, Justin's childhood, the post-CD-pre-streaming era, "Mama's Eyes," and finally Jonathan's favorite JTE record. Get the book! https://www.dacapopress.com/titles/jonathan-bernstein/what-do-you-do-when-youre-lonesome/9780306833274/--x.com/routinelayupx.com/jonbern

In which I ramble for 45 mins about podcast episodes getting deleted, the idea of fair use, and whether I'll make another season of this show. Plus some music pods I've enjoyed this year. -DELETED EPISODES: https://www.patreon.com/afterthedelugeCONTACT: [email protected]: Justin Cox / @routinelayup

Jim-E Stack the producer of Bon Iver’s 2025 record SABLE, fABLE among many other projects. We talk about how they made the record, Justin Vernon’s patient creativity, playing drums in San Francisco, remixing songs in the blogging glory days, the novelty of this record’s EP/LP track listing, working with Lorde, playing with LEGOS, Vernon on the mixing board, whether they discussed this as the last Bon record, and a little bit about the King of the Hill reboot.  CONTACT: [email protected] / ZINE: patreon.com/afterthedeluge(Free 7 day trial for you to speed run every ep) --Justin: https://www.instagram.com/routinelayup/Jim-E: https://www.instagram.com/jimestack/

Alex Robert Ross is a writer and editor based in Toronto. He wrote the Pitchfork review for SABLE, fABLE and for many years served as Editorial Director of The FADER. We talk about how most Bon Iver articles start in the cabin, reviewing the new record, Pitchfork and Bon Iver over the years, “the best album Genesis never made,” releasing the Sable EP last fall, S P E Y S I D E, playing with expectations, “January ain’t the whole world,” pressing the bruise, climbing up a tree, Danielle Haim, a Bright Eyes and Bon Iver comparison, authenticity, pedal steel, funk, is this record an end point?, “There’s a Rhythm,” I’ll go put the Paaaaathfinder on waltz, memorable moments on Bon Iver songs, Mk.gee/Dijon, screen time, soccer, baseball, and Sorry—his new magazine about Toronto. INTERVIEW WITH JIM-E STACK: patreon.com/afterthedeluge--Alex: @alexrobertross⁠https://www.alexrobertross.com/⁠⁠https://nocommentary.substack.com/⁠⁠https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/bon-iver-sable-fable/Justin: @routinelayup delugepodcast.com [email protected]

Chris Messina co-produced the Bon Iver records 22, a Million and I,i, among dozens more by other artists. This is a bonus of sorts before we finish up at SABLE, fABLE. Chris and I casually talk about records made on unconventional instruments, exaggerated narratives around 22, a Million, turning April Base into a proper studio, living in Eau Claire for nine years, using gear incorrectly, adapting these kinds of songs live, big-ass headphones, finishing a record in Texas, a quick pop-punk diversion, and more. https://www.messinachris.com/patreon.com/afterthedelugeinstagram.com/routinelayup