2 Giant Goofballs: A NY Giants Podcast

Moving Kayvon Thibodeaux back to the edge could help revive the New York Giants pass rush, but it also raises a bigger question: why did it take four games to recognize the problem? With Brian Burns on injured reserve and Kayvon still sitting at zero sacks, the Giants need results, not just explanations.
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Is Kayvon Thibodeaux struggling because of his own performance or because the Giants coaching staff used him incorrectly?
Defensive coordinator Dennard Wilson acknowledged that the Giants played Kayvon inside too frequently early in the season and believes he's more effective rushing off the edge. Drew and Rob examine whether that explains the lack of sacks, what Kayvon needs to prove, and how much pressure falls on him and Abdul Carter with Brian Burns unavailable.
The Giants may be 3-1 and leading the NFC East, but the offense still has work to do. John Harbaugh admits the running game isn't good enough despite New York ranking fifth in rushing attempts. Drew and Rob question Greg Roman's system, the blocking execution, Cam Skattebo and Najee Harris' lack of explosive runs, and why Tyrone Tracy isn't seeing more opportunities.
Matt Nagy has also given J.J. McCarthy an A-plus for his early progress learning the offense. But with Jameis Winston winning games, should the Giants really be thinking about a quarterback change?
Deonte Banks' improvement, Arvell Reese's strong rookie start, and the latest Giants–Commanders injury reports round out the New York discussion.
Can the Giants reach 4-1 and take control of the NFC East?
Drew and Rob both pick the Giants to beat Washington and cover the spread. They examine Jayden Daniels' return, the Commanders' injury problems, and what Malik Nabers and Andrew Thomas returning to practice could mean for New York.
Then it's time for NFL Week 5 predictions across the league.
The Philadelphia Eagles are struggling offensively heading into their London matchup with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Can Jacksonville's defense take advantage of Philadelphia's offensive-line problems, or can Jalen Hurts and the Eagles keep it close?
Joe Burrow and the Bengals visit the winless Dolphins, the Raiders face a Patriots team coming off an impressive performance against Buffalo, and the undefeated Vikings take on the Saints. Drew and Rob also examine Browns–Jets, Colts–Steelers, and Texans–Titans, including DeMeco Ryans taking over Houston's defensive play-calling.
The NFC North rivalry between the Bears and Packers brings another intriguing matchup, while Sean Payton's decision to reclaim Denver's offensive play-calling adds another storyline to Broncos–Chargers. Lions–Cardinals presents the potential for a high-scoring game.
Will the undefeated 49ers finally lose in Seattle?
San Francisco visits the defending Super Bowl champion Seahawks in one of the biggest matchups of the week. Drew and Rob discuss Brock Purdy, Seattle's defense, Sam Darnold, and which team has the edge in this NFC West showdown.
The picks conclude with Ravens–Falcons, where Lamar Jackson's ankle creates uncertainty, and Bills–Rams, a potential offensive shootout featuring Josh Allen and Matthew Stafford.
Throughout the picks, Drew and Rob debate outright winners, point spreads, over/unders, and the underdogs capable of pulling off Week 5 upsets.
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The New York Giants are 3-1, but a winless road record and Jayden Daniels' return threaten their chance to reach 4-1. Can Jameis Winston exploit Washington's struggling defense, or will another road loss expose the limitations of this Giants turnaround?
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CAN THE GIANTS BEAT WASHINGTON AND PROVE THEY'RE LEGITIMATE NFC EAST CONTENDERS?
The Giants have an opportunity to build early separation in the division, but their first NFC East matchup under John Harbaugh comes against a quarterback who has consistently given New York problems. Washington's struggling pass defense offers Winston an opportunity, but Malik Nabers' knee concerns and Andrew Thomas' groin injury complicate the offensive outlook.
Drew and Rob examine Washington's strengths and weaknesses, the Giants' ineffective rushing attack, Cam Skattebo's recent production, Abdul Carter's pass-rushing impact, and the importance of keeping Jayden Daniels contained. They also give their predictions for Winston and debate whether the Giants should attack Washington primarily through the air.
Is Lawrence Taylor right to pump the brakes?
LT isn't ready to celebrate the Giants' 3-1 start, although he believes John Harbaugh has brought legitimate coaching improvement to New York. Drew and Rob debate how much has actually changed and what the Giants still need to prove.
Should Joe Schoen pursue Marvin Harrison Jr.?
With league-wide trade speculation surrounding the Arizona Cardinals receiver, the hosts debate Harrison's upside, his disappointing production, the value of draft picks, and whether another receiver is really the best use of the Giants' resources. No Giants trade discussions have been confirmed.
The episode also covers Braxton Berrios undergoing season-ending surgery, Dontae Fleming joining the Giants practice squad, and Jake Haener's promotion while J.J. McCarthy remains a possible QB2 option.
Did the Eagles just make life easier for the Giants?
Philadelphia has lost Lane Johnson to retirement and traded Cam Jurgens to Baltimore. Drew and Rob examine the impact on the Eagles' 2026 offensive line, whether Howie Roseman prioritized future draft assets over winning now, and what those developments mean for the NFC East race.
Plus, a Buccaneers-Cowboys Thursday Night Football preview, game picks, Odell Beckham Jr.'s move to Minnesota, and Deonte Banks earning NFC Defensive Player of the Week.
The Giants have won three of their first four games. If they beat Washington, does 4-1 finally make you a believer?
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Three wins in four games have changed the way Giants fans can look at this season, but the gain comes with a new cost: injuries and lineup questions are arriving just as the NFC East suddenly looks more winnable. Drew and Rob weigh what the 3-1 start means against the uncertainty at receiver, center and backup quarterback.
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Are the Giants a real NFC East contender at 3-1?
Through four games, the record looks more credible because the coaching, young defense and ability to finish games are improving while the division around them suddenly looks much less intimidating.
Did Braxton Berrios landing on IR unexpectedly reopen the door for Odell Beckham Jr., or did OBJ’s comments after his release effectively close it? Drew and Rob get into one of the hotter debates of the episode while making clear there is no report that the Giants are currently pursuing Beckham.
Is Bryan Hudson actually about to take John Michael Schmitz’s starting job? Hudson’s first NFL start was clean in pass protection, and John Harbaugh’s “we’ll see” answer about the Week 5 starter turned what looked temporary into a legitimate center competition. J.J. McCarthy’s role is changing quickly too, with the possibility that he could already become Jameis Winston’s full-game backup against Washington.
The tape from Arizona created even more reasons for optimism. Arvell Reese continues to look like a potential defensive star, Abdul Carter generated pressure that went far beyond his sack total, and Deonte Banks explained how film recognition and leverage helped create the biggest play of his Giants career. Drew and Rob also break down the defensive adjustments that changed the game after Arizona’s fast start.
The league then suspended two officials after Week 4, including one from Giants-Cardinals, before the focus turns to Washington. Marcus Mariota aggravated his MCL injury, Jayden Daniels had not yet been cleared for Week 5 when the episode was recorded, and the Giants still did not know exactly which quarterback they would see.
Then the show goes around the NFL for Week 4: New England shocks Buffalo, Dallas outguns Houston, the Rams knock Philadelphia to 2-2, Jacksonville keeps winning, Seattle sends the Chargers to 0-4, Carolina knocks off Detroit and the rest of the weekend gets graded against Drew and Rob’s picks. A scoring correction also leaves the season race tied 122-122 entering Monday Night Football.
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The Giants are 3-1 after beating the Cardinals 36-24, but getting there required surviving the full Jameis Winston experience: explosive offense, three touchdown passes, two interceptions and enough self-inflicted damage to keep Arizona alive far longer than New York wanted. The payoff is another win and a growing belief that this team can absorb punches; the cost is wondering how sustainable this much chaos really is. 
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Can the Giants keep winning with this version of Jameis Winston? Right now, maybe — because the explosive plays finally arrived, but the turnovers remain dangerous enough to change games.
Winston finished 18-of-29 for 250 yards, three touchdowns and two interceptions. Arizona turned those interceptions into 10 points, but Winston also finally attacked vertically and created the kind of offense Giants fans had been waiting for. Malik Nabers broke out with six catches for 112 yards and a touchdown, while Malachi Fields delivered a touchdown and a massive 40-yard conversion on 3rd-and-20. 
Did Matt Nagy wait too long to open the offense up?
The early play-calling left plenty to question. New York repeatedly settled for short throws and abandoned productive runs, then suddenly started creating explosives once the offense became more aggressive. Theo Johnson's fourth-quarter touchdown and Najee Harris' two-point conversion put the Giants back in front after Arizona had retaken a 24-19 lead. 
The defense deserves just as much attention. Arvell Reese delivered what looked like a breakout performance, the Giants intercepted Jacoby Brissett three times, and Deonte Banks ended the game with a pick-six with 11 seconds left. Without Brian Burns, the pass rush started slowly but improved as the game went on, while Arizona was shut out in the fourth quarter.
Is Arvell Reese becoming a major piece of this defense?
We also get into a Giants running game that never found the matchup advantage expected entering the game, Dominic Zvada drilling field goals from 39, 50 and 52 yards, the questionable early two-point decision, injuries to Chauncey Golston, Jason Pinnock and Braxton Berrios, and Bryan Hudson starting at center over John Michael Schmitz.
The Giants created plenty of their own problems, but they also answered every time Arizona threatened to take control. They are 3-1, they just scored 36 points, and they found a way to finish a game that could have easily gotten away from them. Now the question is whether this chaos is something they can keep surviving — or something they eventually have to eliminate.
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The Giants still look like the better team to Drew and Rob, but a five-point betting-line swing and Andrew Thomas missing two straight practices make this a much tougher Week 4 call than it looked earlier in the week. New York also has to weigh Arizona’s injuries, Malik Nabers still learning to trust his knee, and how Dennard Wilson plans to replace Brian Burns’ pressure without asking one player to become Brian Burns.
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Does the five-point Cardinals-Giants line flip change the Giants pick? 
Drew and Rob still take the Giants to win and cover as underdogs, while also expecting a lower-scoring game.
Before making that pick, the show gets into several developments that broke after the previous Giants-Cardinals preview. Kendrick Green visited the Giants as another veteran center option behind the ongoing John Michael Schmitz conversation. Joey Porter Jr. was traded to Dallas after weeks of Giants speculation, but the Cowboys gave up significant draft capital without first locking him into a new contract. That opens a bigger Giants question: if corner remains a position they are watching, is there another player they actually prefer?
Andrew Thomas then becomes the biggest injury concern after consecutive DNPs with a groin issue. The guys also cover Tyrone Tracy Jr., Deonte Banks, Tyler Nubin and Arizona’s own injury situation before getting into Wilson’s post-Burns pressure plan, Nabers’ comments about trusting his surgically repaired knee, the early evaluation of McCarthy, and Jevón Holland earning NFC Defensive Player of the Month.
Then it becomes the full NFL Week 4 picks show. Drew and Rob work through every remaining matchup, making winners, spread picks and totals while arguing through the injuries and matchup advantages that could actually swing each game. The slate includes Colts-Commanders in London, Patriots-Bills, Jets-Bears, Cowboys-Texans, Rams-Eagles, Packers-Buccaneers, Titans-Ravens, Jaguars-Bengals, Dolphins-Vikings, Chiefs-Raiders, Chargers-Seahawks, Broncos-49ers, Lions-Panthers and Falcons-Saints.
Can Buffalo punish New England’s turnovers? Can Houston finally get its first win against Dallas? Are the Rams about to expose Philadelphia? Can Tampa survive with an undrafted rookie quarterback? And are the 3-0 Raiders actually good enough to hang with Kansas City?
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