Episode 12: Alexander Bard
This week Daniel and Chase are joined by Jack Ek and his friend, the legendary Alexander Bard, who describes himself as a “philosopher who writes f***ing books" and who is according to his Wiki: a Swedish musician, author, lecturer, artist, songwriter, music producer, TV personality, religious and political activist, one of the founders of the Syntheist religious movement, and member of the bands Army of Lovers & BWO, amongst numerous other projects. More recently, he cofounded a secret society called The Grey Robes, AKA the “Freemasons of Decentralization”.
We cover:
How Jack and Bard met through Euroburner culture
Is Bucharest the next Berlin? Or…can there never be a ‘next Berlin’
Property ownership as lynchpin for scene building
The secrets of disproportionate Swedish soft power
America as theater for the rest of the world
Lessons from Urbit: too Kantian
Philosophy’s role in engineering
Behavioral Economics and ‘Nudge Units’
The need for spirituality when grappling with the ramifications of AI
AI as a fundamentally truth seeking technology and therefore a threat to authoritarian governments
The devolution of the internet from Open and flat into a tribal, feudal dark forest.
Decentralization vs Centralization as the only important political axis
Navigating community building in a decentralized world (parallelize it)
Artwork: J.F. Clemens after Nicolai Abildgaard, “Ossian’s Swan Song”, 1787
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Episode 11: Samuel Hammond
This week, Daniel chats about technology, governance and culture with Samuel Hammond, senior economist for the Foundation for American Innovation, a think tank focused on bridging the cultures of Silicon Valley and DC. Additionally, Sam has an outstanding substack where he writes about topics surrounding AI development & regulation, as well as the history and future of liberalism, secularism and pluralism.
Topics include:
The day-to-day of working in a think tank
What it means to bridge the cultural divide between Silicon Valley and DC
The real American power centers (New York (finance/media), Texas (energy), Silicon Valley (tech) and how Hollywood has always been subservient
What it means to embrace pluralism in terms of values, morals and ontological frameworks, and the benefits of such beliefs
How to apply the theory of The Second Best to ones general worldview: “when it is infeasible to remove a particular market distortion, introducing one or more additional market distortions may lead to a more efficient outcome”
The evolution of liberalism has evolved as a response to periods of extreme conflict (The 30 Years War, for instance)
Debating whether or not crisis is essential for generating new equilibria in society
Accelerationism and capitalism as a general intelligence
Path dependency and historical development
Exploring scenarios about what happens if AI scaling laws breakdown
Predictions about AI’s impact on regime change and the rise of AI-native institutions
Can open source AI keep up? Why it’s important that they keep trying, despite the widening performance gap
Why Sam isn’t worried about children adapting to technological change
The coming return of Neo-Medieval societal structures
Completing the system of Canadian Idealism
Artwork: Edward Hicks, “Peaceable Kingdom”, 1844-1846
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Episode 10: Ruby Justice Thelot
To kick off our new weekly release schedule, we have Chase & Daniel in conversation with designer, artist, NYU design/media professor & cyberethnographer Ruby Justice Thelot (@being_on_line)
Ruby’s output is thoughtful, extremely prolific, and multifaceted. His writing on virtual realms, digital communities and AI offers a unique perspective that overlaps with our interests at Vaporware in key ways. Chiefly, how crucial it is for people and small communities to truly own their own means of coordination and memory. But also how the specific affordances of those digital tools dictate the bounds of memory itself.
Ruby’s new habit of buying old film home movies off eBay
The concept of ‘Mnemophagy’: “the devouring of memory” and the ephemerality of online culture
Checkpoints: Ruby’s book about an accidental community that formed in the comment section of a now-deleted YouTube video
His early internet archiving habits and how they sucked him into academia through meme page admin
What he’s learned from teaching young designers at NYU and the new generational attitudes towards technology that he sees crystallizing
How comparing the iPod to the Stem Player made him both optimistic and pessimistic about the future of hardware design
Why it’s a good thing that 64% of Gen Z call themselves ‘creators’
The rise of para-content: content about content
Why we want AI to give us malleable, interoperable, remixable tools, not to repeat forms from the past
The rise of synthetic training data and concerns about its usefulness or creativity
Why it’s important to write more non-dystopian sci-fi, so that founders are inspired to build things besides cyberpunk and ‘the Torment Nexus’
Artwork: Louis Daguerre [inventor of the Daguerreotype and the diorama], “The Ruins of Holyrood Chapel”, 1824
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Episode 9: Fred Scharmen
This week, Daniel Keller and Fred Scharmen talk about the cultural legacy of space colonization and its connections to contemporary movements like e/acc, longtermism, and network states.
Fred is architect, educator, and researcher whose work focuses on the history and theory of architecture and urban design in outer space. His first book, Space Settlements (Columbia University Press, 2019) is about Gerard O'Neill's work with NASA and others to design large-scale cities in space intended to house millions of people. His second book, Space Forces (Verso, 2021), is a broader history of human aspirations in space. Fred is an international speaker and has helped speculate about life in future space habitats for NASA and the Museum of the Future in Dubai. In 2015 Fred built a scale model solar system stretching for a mile and a half through downtown Baltimore. He teaches at Morgan State University.
Topics:
Historical context of space architecture
The concept of the ‘planetary imagination’
The roots and legacy of Russian Cosmism
The ‘Brick Moon’ vs. ‘Glass Moon’ paradigms of space colonization
J.D Bernal’s early vision for a pluralistic ‘proto-patchwork’ in space composed of numerous self-reproducing bubble space habitats
The Von Braun Paradigm, Operation Paperclip and UFOs
Comparison of Soviet and US space program culture and sci-fi influences
New Space and the quasi-cold war rivalry between Musk and Bezos
Gerard O’ Neill’s influential space habitat work for NASA in the 1970s
What makes those Don Davis and Rick Guidice Space habitat paintings so damn appealing and the Bezos commissioned ones so flat?
Why we can absolutely afford to build a Stanford Torus
How the aesthetics of space habitats influences public perception
Fred’s work with Brick Moon, a space habitat consultancy
“Don’t Let Them Leave” movement, opposed to space colonization
Space habitats for manatees
Fred’s incredible GoT fan theory: It takes place on a malfunctioning Truman Show-style Bernal Sphere
Artwork: Don Davis, “Model 3 O’Neill Cylinder ‘Lunar Eclipse’ lighting (Sun in eclipse behind Earth)”, 1975
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Episode 8: Chase Van Etten
In a bit of a departure from our normal format, Daniel Keller interviews Chase Van Etten, founder and CEO of Vaporware about his background and vision for the company.
We discuss:
Absorbing the California Ideology by osmosis growing up in Petaluma
How custom car culture informs Chase’s approach to technology
Gaming as CEO Mode trainer Vs. depressive real world agency drainer
Marketplaces as cooperation tech and the need to maximize informational flow rates
How Vaporware aims to address the complexities of social computing
Right and wrong approaches to standardization in software
The multidimensional problem space of growing a radical software project as a startup
Taking on megacorp incumbents by doing things outside the scope of their business model
The great app-less future, (that Apple doesn’t want you to have)
The Operating Function as a new paradigm in computing and foundation for a sovereign Exocortex
Functional programming providing the basis for reliable and trustworthy distributed systems and software
Vaporware’s competition and target audience
The political implications of our technology and legal and ethical challenges
Community sovereignty and individual sovereignty
Some differing views on the pace of AI development
How insanely high Chase thinks your monthly software bill is going to be in 10 years
Different ways you can participate in our project if you’re interested!
Artwork: Peter Cain, “Z”, 1989
Bi-weekly discussions and interviews about Vaporware Network, peer-to-peer & open source ecosystems, functional programming, crypto, and fringe beliefs