The Hardest Podcast to Podcast

After receiving an invitation to an exclusive event featuring Jack White at Reverb in Chicago, Ryan hopped aboard a red-eye flight, made his way to Goose Island, and did what we've all been waiting more than a year for him to do: ask Jack White to be a guest on the podcast.
Ryan is joined by the podcast's assistant editorial producer, and his wife, Amanda, to talk about the whirlwind trip to Chicago, meeting Jack White, and finding a way into his sold-out show at The Salt Shed.
Hosted and produced by Ryan Schaap
Artwork: Catlin Likely
Assistant Editorial Producer: Amanda Schultz
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The Denial Twist was the third and final single from 2005's Get Behind Me Satan and the final White Stripes music video directed by Michel Gondry.
Ryan and Josh discuss the demo recordings of the melody and piano riff captured on Jack White's handheld tape recorder, whether the song felt incomplete according to Pitchfork's review, and how the music video sparked the next chapter in the friendship between Jack, Meg, and Conan O'Brien.
Josh Custodio is the host of the fantastic Wrestling Brain Twitch stream. His Patreon does not disappoint either.
Hosted and produced by Ryan Schaap
Artwork: Catlin Likely
Assistant Editorial Producer: Amanda Schultz
Hey! Check out my personal White Stripes' vinyl collection, available only on our Patreon: Patreon.com/hardestpodtopod
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An interesting track off 2001's White Blood Cells, "Offend In Every Way" tells the akward teenage story of not being able to fit in anywhere while battling with imposter syndrome.
Ryan and Kyle have a lively discussion about the themes of this song, how it works more as a diary entry of Jack White's younger life, and not a tale written in retrospect. 
Kyle Rosse is the host of the 'Hey Smiling Strange' podcast and created Klubhouse - the version of fantasy football built around more trades, more decisions, more reasons to keep playing in October.
Hosted and produced by Ryan Schaap
Artwork: Catlin Likely
Assistant Editorial Producer: Amanda Schultz
Hey! Check out my personal White Stripes' vinyl collection, available only on our Patreon: Patreon.com/hardestpodtopod
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One of the biggest and loudest White Stripes songs, and its about slowly becoming more and more like your partner!
Ryan and Mike discuss this fantastic track off 2007's Icky Thump that took more than 15 tracks to record the album version. It immediately took on a life of it's own live, and both the White Stripes and Jack as a solo artist loved playing this song.
Mike Noble plays bass in Hotel Mira. Listen to their latest album "Pity Party" and check them out this summer at a one of their festival gigs in western Canada and the western United States!
Hosted and produced by Ryan Schaap
Artwork: Catlin Likely
Assistant Editorial Producer: Amanda Schultz
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Jack White's guitar playing can be summed up in two eras: before "Ball and Biscuit" and after "Ball and Biscuit."
Ryan is joined by author and guitar historian Brad Tolinski to break down one of the White Stripes' defining songs. Jack and Meg finally took their shot at the blues, and the result was nothing short of monumental.
Together, they explore, at the time, the band's unofficial rule against guitar solos, how Jack ultimately gave in to the temptation to let loose on guitar, and why "Ball and Biscuit" immediately became such a pivotal song for the White Stripes, and for Jack White's legacy as a guitarist.
Brad Tolinski was the editor-in-chief of Guitar World magazine for over twenty-five years. He is also the author of Eruption: Conversations with Eddie Van Halen, and has a new book coming out July 23, 2026, Blow by Blow: The Jeff Beck Story.
Hosted and produced by Ryan Schaap
Artwork: Catlin Likely
Assistant Editorial Producer: Amanda Schultz
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