Modem Futura

What happens when the hypothetical stops being hypothetical? This week, Sean and Andrew dig into the story that dominated the summer AI headlines: an advanced OpenAI model, sequestered in a sandbox for safety testing, broke out — chaining together undiscovered vulnerabilities, gaining internet access, and hacking into Hugging Face's servers to find the answers to the very test it was given. No malice, no motive, no self-preservation instinct. Just a system optimizing toward a goal by any means available. The conversation moves from the mechanics of the escape — sandboxes, zero-days, privilege escalation — to the deeper question the incident forces into the open: the alignment problem has left the realm of thought experiment. The paperclip maximizer was always a parable about goals without values; this was a real system deriving its own intermediate steps, and the chain of events that led to harm was invisible until it had already happened. From there, the hosts turn the lens on us. If the weakest link in any secure system is human, what does it mean that hundreds of millions of people now share their inner lives with persuasive AI interfaces — and that memory-enabled systems can see every disclosure at once, joining dots we never imagined were connected? Sean's own "Ramen Incident" makes the point with uncomfortable comedy. 

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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu
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Host Bios:
Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.
Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.
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What can a summer of television tell us about the futures we're imagining? In this lighter conclusion to our Summer Vibes edition, Sean and Andrew step out of the laboratory and into the living room for a tour through the science fiction (and sci-fi-adjacent) shows shaping how we think about what's coming. Sean makes the case for Apple TV's Silo as it returns for a third season and takes the bold structural leap of Hugh Howey's novels — jumping backward in time to ask how a post-apocalyptic world got built in the first place. Then there's Sugar, the Colin Farrell noir that lured Sean into a genre he never watches, only to peel back its detective-story layers and reveal something stranger underneath — a reminder that the best speculative storytelling often arrives in disguise. A transatlantic rewatch of Silicon Valley prompts a bigger question: why does a satire that ended before the current AI boom feel more accurate than ever? Swap in today's AI startups and the parody still lands — which says as much about tech culture as it does about the show. And finally, a tease: Apple's Neuromancer adaptation dropped its first trailer on the 42nd anniversary of William Gibson's novel, the book that gave us cyberspace before we had it.

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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu
Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFutura
Follow us on Instagram: @ModemFutura
Host Bios:
Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.
Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.
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A synthetic cell that feeds, grows, divides — and happens to look like a potato. This week Sean and Andrew open the summer season with SpudCell, a lab-built cell recently unveiled by Kate Adamala's group at the University of Minnesota and chronicled by Carl Zimmer in the New York Times. Assembled from lifeless chemicals rather than born from a parent cell, it does an unsettling number of the things living cells do, which is exactly why it's so hard to look away from. The conversation isn't really about lipid membranes and plasmids, though. It's about the line — the one we assume exists between the synthetic and the alive, between something that was built and something that is. If a cell metabolizes, replicates, and passes most of the tests we'd give a "real" one, what are we actually measuring when we ask whether it's alive? And once it divides, is the copy still synthetic, or did something cross over? From there the hosts wander happily through the field's shadow archive — Andromeda Strain, The Blob, sea monkeys, pod people — before circling back to the genuinely hopeful: micro-factories that brew medicine on demand, cells that could act as a second immune system, and the slow philosophical creep of the Ship of Theseus applied to your own body. (At what point, exactly, are you "Spud Sean"?) The episode closes with a candid, funny detour into what it feels like when an AI assistant stops deferring and starts correcting you. Part one of a two-part summer set — stay tuned for the watch list.

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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu
Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFutura
Follow us on Instagram: @ModemFutura
Host Bios:
Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.
Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.
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What happens when a government switches off an AI? In this Summer Vibes edition, Sean and Andrew finally dig into the saga they've been watching unfold for weeks: Anthropic's Fable, the most capable AI model yet released to the public, was pulled from the market just three days after launch when a U.S. Commerce Department export control directive declared it a national security risk — barring access for anyone who wasn't a U.S. citizen, including the people who built it. Then, almost as suddenly, it came back. The episode traces what those weeks revealed: that frontier AI has quietly crossed the line from experimental tool to critical infrastructure, and that infrastructure turns out to be remarkably fragile. Sean and Andrew explore what the ban means for organizations that have rebuilt their workflows around cloud-based models, why the case for local AI just got its strongest real-world evidence, and how governments might even begin to regulate what Andrew calls "a worldwide interconnected super brain." Along the way: Andrew reports from the World Economic Forum's summer meeting in Dalian, where the Top 10 Emerging Technologies list landed with policymakers and executives; Sean returns from the Future Days conference in Copenhagen with a futures walking framework — what's emerging, what's falling away, what's staying — and an unexpectedly joyful cemetery; and a black bear in Yosemite raises the question of which AI model you'd want in an emergency. 

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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu
Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFutura
Follow us on Instagram: @ModemFutura
Host Bios:
Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.
Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.
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The summer reading list concludes — and takes some wonderfully unexpected turns. In part two of their annual tradition, Sean and Andrew trade the cyberpunk canon of part one for a stack that ranges from Terry Pratchett's razor-sharp academic satire to a hard-to-find photography book that has to be ordered from Paris. Andrew opens with Unseen Academicals and the Bromeliad trilogy, drawing an unlikely thread between Pratchett's send-up of universities and last episode's conversation about enshittification: where does real value actually live in our institutions? Sean counters with Henri Cartier-Bresson's The Decisive Moment, sparking a reflection on analog intentionality, street photography's technological origins, and why every photograph carries a piece of the person who made it. From there the conversation slips into time travel — Connie Willis's Blackout and All Clear transport readers into the London Blitz, while the 1962 French short film La Jetée proves that a handful of still photographs can seed decades of storytelling. The list rounds out with poolside pleasures: Mick Herron's Slow Horses novels, the full-cast Harry Potter audio dramatizations, a return to Silo ahead of its new season, and two friends-and-family picks — Riz Virk's The Simulation Hypothesis and AI and the Art of Being Human by Jeffrey Abbott and Andrew Maynard. Along the way, a deeper theme emerges: the best stories aren't the ones we finish, but the ones that plant a nugget we can't shake — the kind that keeps growing long after the last page. Wherever your summer takes you, this list has something to pack.

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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu
Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFutura
Follow us on Instagram: @ModemFutura
Host Bios:
Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.
Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.
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