For my second of three consecutive duo interviews, I chat with composers Aaron May and David Ridley. While they've been composing together for a while, their biggest project is also their most recent - the viral Netflix series Adolescence, from director Philip Barantini and starring Stephen Graham. It's not surprise, then, that we spend a lot of our chat talking about the series, including working in the single take, real time format, understanding that the series might not need score at all, and the genesis of the child vocalization that forms an integral part of their score's palette. Dave has also scored all of Phil's projects, with Aaron also scoring all but the first two, so we discuss this long term director combination as well as how the two work together (and work separately).
This is one of the more tangential conversations I've had - Aaron and Dave warned me beforehand that it might happen, but I certainly instigated it! I should have known it was coming when we lost track of time before recording talking about East Anglia and the British ritual/folk year. Shame that wasn't recorded too...
Aaron and Dave's score is available on all major platforms, as are their other scores and their debut solo albums (each released in 2023). Adolescence is currently on Netflix, and there are rumors that a second season may come (though this would at least be a surprise to me). You can find out more about Aaron and Dave on their joint website.
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41:55
The "Best" Film Scores of 2024
Although we're now a couple months into 2025, I finally present you with the "best" film scores of 2024. As usual, there are some very mainstream scores in here that most observers would agree with and there are a few left field choices. If you're a longtime listener, that shouldn't surprise you. As with all of these lists, although I say they're the "best", what I really mean is these are my favorites. Who's to say what's really the best? Surely not me.
If you can't control yourself, look below to see what scores I picked, though you'll miss out on the why of it all. And make sure to check out my conversation with David Rosen (from Piecing It Together) to see what we think are the best film scores of the decade (so far).
Evil Does Not Exist – Eiko Ishibashi
Smile 2 – Cristobal Tapia de Veer
Megalopolis - Osvaldo Golijov
AGGRO DR1FT – AraabMuzik
Dune 2 – Hans Zimmer
The Brutalist – Daniel Blumberg
Challengers – Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross
Le Comte de Monte Cristo (The Count of Monte Cristo) - Jerome Rebotier
Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes - John Paesano
A Different Man – Umberto Smerilli
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The Best Film Scores of the 2020s (So Far) (with Piecing It Together)
It's a bit worrying to realize that we're now over halfway through the 2020s - where has the time gone? Well, I suppose we all know one collective reason why it feels like a blur... But rather than lament the passage of time, I've decided to celebrate what's been released during the last five years; specifically, celebrating the "best" film scores of the decade, so far.
Joining me in this endeavor is David Rosen, a fellow podcast host and film composer. Dave and I have "known" each other virtually for a few years now and this gave us a good reason to hop on video for a little while. I'll also give a shout out to Dave's primary podcast, Piecing It Together, where he and various guest hosts look at what past films (the puzzle pieces) have inspired the films of today (the puzzle). It's a pretty cool show, even if I've always been too hesitant to hop on and join for an episode.
If you don't want to listen, you can see each of our lists below (though you'll miss out on the why of the choices, which is most of the fun). My list isn't presented in any particular order while Dave's is presented in descending order, saving the best for last. Don't be shy, feel free to chime in (whether commenting on this episode, dm, or calling me out publicly) with some of your favorite scores of the decade too.
Nick's List:
Blonde – Nick Cave and Warren Ellis
Drive My Car – Eiko Ishibashi
Oppenheimer – Ludwig Göransson
The Batman – Michael Giacchino
Dune (Parts 1 and 2) – Hans Zimmer
The Brutalist – Daniel Blumberg
The Green Knight – Daniel Hart
The Personal History of David Copperfield – Christopher Willis
Cryptozoo – John Carroll Kirby
Smile 2 – Cristobal Tapia de Veer
Dave’s List:
10. Challengers – Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross
9. Gretel and Hansel – Rob
8. The Last Duel – Harry Gregson-Williams
7. Minari – Emile Mosseri
6. The Brutalist – Daniel Blumberg
5. Smile 2 – Cristobal Tapia de Veer
4. Conclave – Volker Bertelmann
3. A Different Man – Umberto Smerilli
2. Windfall – Danny Bensi & Saunder Jurriaans
1. Oppenheimer – Ludwig Göransson
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Dead Lover with Meg Remy (aka U.S. Girls) and Grace Glowicki
In an absolute coincidence, during International Women's Month Meg Remy (U.S. Girls) and Grace Glowicki join me on The Film Scorer Podcast! Our primary focus is the film Dead Lover, for which Grace is director, co-writer, and lead actress and Meg provided most of the score. As such, we talk about the film itself, the music (and how Meg and Grace worked together on it, trying to find a unifying style), and the benefit of having a female director and composer working together on a female-centric film.
The reason I say that Meg provided most of the score is because of the unusual approach they took to music on the film. Dead Lover is set in a sort of kaleidoscopic Victorian England that constantly jumps around in palette, tone, and style, and with added influences like German Expressionism and silent film. So Meg wrote original music, but also started pulled old music she'd written 15-20 years ago sitting unused on hard drives and scouring public domain music as well. While the final music is incredibly diverse, jumping from opera to 70s prog doom, they manage to unify it and make it all work.
Meg's score release is forthcoming (I believe), but her other music is available on all major platforms. Dead Lover is currently on the festival circuit, including at SXSW on March 9. You can find out more about Meg/U.S. Girls on her website.
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Rihards Zalupe Scores Flow
Rihards Zalupe joins The Film Scorer Podcast! Rihards' latest score is for the Oscar and BAFTA nominated animated film Flow, which he co-composed with the film's writer and director Gints Zilbalodis. As such, Rihards and I spend much of our conversation talking about the score, including creating themes or specific sonic palette choices for each of the film's different animal main characters, co-composing a score with the film's director (which was also Gints' first time working with a composer on one of his films), and how Cat has become one of Latvia's national heroes.
Rihards' score, and much of his other music, is available on all major platforms. Flow is available on demand or streaming on HBO Max. You can find out more about Rihards on his website.
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