After what kids think: visiting Alex, 11, in England
We're staying in England for one more conversation,—this time with Alex, 11, Wren's brother. We talk about motivation, choices, bias, interactive boards, Shakespeare’s spelling skills, the fast pace of modern childhood and—as our guest beautifully sums it—“cultural developments of life”.Alex is brilliant at expressing thoughts with confidence and virtuous authenticity. It's a conversation between equals with surprising twists and insights. This season is all about listening closely to what each child knows, feels, and thinks about the topics we usually discuss as adults in the field. And this has been wonderful so far!*** Host***Host: Polina Lulu*** Links of the D4CR Association and active local chapters***Designing for Children’s Rights Guide D4CR Association Berlin chapter Malmo chapterTel-Aviv chapterPorto chapter
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After what kids think: visiting Wren, 8, in England
Our next stop: England — meet Wren, 8, who has a lot to say about what child-friendly really means. We talk about safety, freedom in learning, digital experiences, and how creativity evolves through exploration. Wren shares which platforms she avoids and why.Her insights are sharp and brilliantly articulated, and her words remind us — again — not to underestimate younger voices. That’s what this season is about: pure curiosity to understand what each child knows, feels, and thinks about the topics we’re so used to discussing in the industry. Hope these conversations spark ideas and action — and help bring youth voices into the world we’re designing together.*** Host***Host: Polina Lulu*** Links of the D4CR Association and active local chapters***Designing for Children’s Rights Guide D4CR Association Berlin chapter Malmo chapterTel-Aviv chapterPorto chapter
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After what kids think: visiting Sarah, 16, in Pakistan
In this season, we’re on a journey of exploring how kids understand design, children’s rights, and what we can learn from their unique insights, context, and perspectives. Hope these conversations spark ideas and action, amplifying the impact of youth voices in the world we’re designing together.Our first stop: Pakistan, where Sarah, 16, kindly invites us into her reality — where some things we consider basic, like meeting with a friend in a park, aren’t obvious at all. On top of design and children's rights, you'll hear strong ideas on education, lessons in gratitude, and making an impact outside of your comfort bubble with the cards that life gives you.*** Host***Host: Polina Lulu*** Links of the D4CR Association and active local chapters***Designing for Children’s Rights Guide D4CR Association Berlin chapter Malmo chapterTel-Aviv chapterPorto chapter
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Crafting equitable play spaces
Are you ready to enrich your understanding of play and spaces that allow equitable child experiences?
In this episode we are joined by Marie Williams to reflect on the urgency of prioritizing play and moving beyond conventional ideas and aesthetics of play tools.
Emphasizing the importance of play experiences, we discuss the value of transferring knowledge, sharing diverse stories, and co-designing with children—without relying solely on our interpretations.
What a perfect way to close out the first season!
*** Links to the guests and hosts***
Guest: Marie Williams
Host: Polina Lulu
***Relevant links***
https://dreamnetworks.co.uk/
Welsh Assembly Play Policy, 2002
*** Links of the D4CR Association and active local chapters***
Designing for Children’s Rights Guide
D4CR Association
Berlin chapter
Malmo chapter
Tel-Aviv chapter
Porto chapter
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Play, physicality and AI
What is play, playfulness, and physicality? What are their practical sides and applications in the AI Era? What boundaries should we set to ensure AI is sensitive to children's playful minds?
In this episode, we are joined by Yesim Kunter, play expert and futurist, to discuss these serious questions, looking at AI as a Human+AI interplay.
*** Links to the guests and hosts***
Guest: Yesim Kunter
Host: Polina Lulu
***Relevant links***
www.playtoinnovate.com
Instagram for Jesim's Play and Design related
Instagram for Yesim's Art Work
Articles by Yesim
*** Links of the D4CR Association and active local chapters***
Designing for Children’s Rights Guide
D4CR Association
Berlin chapter
Malmo chapter
Tel-Aviv chapter
Porto chapter
All about designing what is best for children. Ethical, enabling design discussed by design industry and academia stars. A show curated by D4CR - Designing for Children's Rights International Association - designingforchildrensrights.org
Have a look at the D4CR Design Guide - https://childrensdesignguide.org/
*** Acknowledgments ***
Podcast team - Leyla Nasib & Polina Lulu,
D4CR logo by Anna Puura,
Podcast visual by Alona Lazarenko,
Podcast music by Daniel Fokin
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