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Blake Oliver & David Leary
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  • The HIRE Act Would Tax Firms 25% for Offshore Labor
    Blake and David examine several major developments affecting the accounting profession, including the proposed HIRE Act that would impose a 25% excise tax on offshore labor payments to accounting firms. They also look at how AI is transforming hiring practices at major firms like PwC, which is cutting graduate recruitment due to advancing technology and explore practical AI implementation strategies for accounting firms, moving beyond basic chatbots to integrated workflows. The show wraps up with a story about fraud at The Epoch Times - a $67 million money laundering scheme - and the ongoing costs of bad social media tax advice. SponsorsOnPay - http://accountingpodcast.promo/onpayRelay - http://accountingpodcast.promo/relay TeamUp - http://accountingpodcast.promo/teamupChapters(00:00) - Introduction and Personal Updates (00:48) - AI in Accounting: Challenges and Opportunities (04:57) - The Higher Act: Taxing Offshore Labor (05:23) - Feel-Good Story: The Oldest Marching Band Member (10:23) - Impact of AI on Job Market (26:33) - Gambling Scandal and AI in Government (36:22) - Expense Management Simplified (38:29) - Supreme Court and Tariffs Update (42:37) - Red Lobster's Downfall: A Case Study (45:37) - The Role of AI in Accounting Firms (01:03:04) - Epic Times CFO Charged with Money Laundering (01:08:38) - Conclusion and Announcements  Show NotesNew Moreno Bill Would Crack Down on Outsourcing, Fund American Workers - Senator Bernie Moreno https://www.moreno.senate.gov/press-releases/new-moreno-bill-would-crack-down-on-outsourcing-fund-american-workers/HIRE Act - A BILL https://www.moreno.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/The-HIRE-Act.pdfMoreno Bill to Crackdown on Foreign Outsourcing Blocked by Senate Democrats - Senator Bernie Moreno https://www.moreno.senate.gov/press-releases/moreno-bill-to-crackdown-on-foreign-outsourcing-blocked-by-senate-democrats/Offshoring is Screwed If This HIRE Act Thing Goes Anywhere But Let's Not Get Too Excited Yet - Going Concern https://www.goingconcern.com/offshoring-is-screwed-if-this-hire-act-thing-goes-anywhere-but-lets-not-get-too-excited-yet/PwC's U.K. chief admits he's cutting back entry-level jobs and taking a 'watch and wait' approach to see how AI changes work | Fortune https://fortune.com/2025/09/08/pwc-uk-chief-cutting-entry-level-junior-gen-z-jobs-ai-economic-headwinds-like-amazon-salesforce/AI takes entry-level jobs as Big Four slash graduate hiring https://bmmagazine.co.uk/news/big-four-cut-graduate-jobs-ai/PwC Cuts Graduate Hiring as AI Reshapes Entry-Level Careers - TechStory https://techstory.in/pwc-cuts-graduate-hiring-as-ai-reshapes-entry-level-careers/IRS assesses $162 million in penalties over false tax credit claims tied to social media | Internal Revenue Service https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-assesses-162-million-in-penalties-over-false-tax-credit-claims-tied-to-social-mediaSocial media claims cost taxpayers $162M, IRS says. See the 'tips' to avoid https://thehill.com/homenews/5492263-social-media-claims-cost-taxpayers-162m-irs-says-see-the-tips-to-avoid/IRS warns taxpayers: Social media advice can lead to costly penalties https://www.journalofaccountancy.com/news/2025/sep/irs-warns-taxpayers-social-media-advice-can-lead-to-costly-penalties/Dirty Dozen: Taking tax advice on social media can be bad news for taxpayers; inaccurate or misleading tax information circulating | Internal Revenue Service https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/dirty-dozen-taking-tax-advice-on-social-media-can-be-bad-news-for-taxpayers-inaccurate-or-misleading-tax-information-circulatingAlbania appoints world's first AI government 'minister' to root out corruption | Euronews https://www.euronews.com/next/2025/09/12/albania-appoints-worlds-first-ai-government-minister-to-root-out-corruptionDiella (AI system) - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diella_(AI_system)Epoch Times embroiled in alleged cryptocurrency money laundering scheme - The Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/media/2024/06/04/epoch-times-money-laundering-cryptocurrency/CFO of Falun Gong-linked Epoch Times arrested and accused of role in $67m multinational money laundering scheme | Fortune https://fortune.com/2024/06/04/cfo-weidong-bill-guan-falun-gong-epoch-times-arrested-67m-multinational-money-laundering-scheme/The only recap of Red Lobster's downfall you need https://thetakeout.com/red-lobster-endless-shrimp-private-equity-downfall-recapNeed CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and wr...
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  • Who Gets No Tax on Tips, Why Firms Struggle With Tech, Xero Updates
    Are AI “super agents” like Xero’s Jax actually useful—or just shiny chatbots? Blake and David unpack Xerocon announcements, why embedded agents lack context, smarter way to automate bank feeds with rules, the leaked “no tax on tips” job list and planning opportunities, IRS staffing whiplash, plus what billion‑dollar AI pledges from big firms really mean. Walk away with practical steps to deploy AI that saves hours without losing control.Chapters(00:00) - Introduction and Podcast Overview (00:45) - Continuing Professional Education (CPE) Credits (03:20) - Live Stream Interactions and Coffee Talk (04:09) - Upcoming Deadlines and Tax Season Tips (05:52) - Upcoming Conferences and Events (14:48) - Blake's New Book Announcement (24:27) - No Tax on Tips Discussion (28:57) - IRS Workforce Challenges (31:41) - State Tax Implications for NFL Players (36:22) - Xero Con and AI Financial Super Agent (37:51) - Analyzing Gross Profit Trends (39:43) - Limitations of AI in Accounting (42:12) - AI-Powered Bank Reconciliation (49:47) - Automating Invoice Creation with AI (55:01) - Grant Thornton's AI Investment (01:02:16) - The Future of AI in Accounting (01:13:03) - AI's Impact on Accounting Jobs (01:21:26) - Implementing AI in Accounting Firms  Show NotesTreasury names jobs for Trump's 'no tax on tips' deduction https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/03/treasury-trump-no-tax-on-tips-jobs.htmlScoop: List of jobs covered by Trump's "no tax on tips" (See if you qualify) https://www.axios.com/2025/09/01/no-tax-on-tips-jobs-trump-billWorkers in 68 occupations may soon be exempt from paying taxes on tips, including some surprising jobshttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/no-tax-on-tips-trump-big-beautiful-bill-68-occupations-heres-who/IRS is canceling its layoff plans, will ask some it fired or pushed out to return https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2025/08/irs-canceling-its-layoff-plans-will-ask-some-it-fired-or-pushed-out-return/407620/The IRS is Downsizing: Key Divisions Most Affected in 2025 https://sandbergphoenix.com/the-irs-is-downsizing-key-divisions-most-affected-in-2025/Grant Thornton Advisors investing $1 billion to arm the multinational workforce across its platform with powerful AI tools and technologyhttps://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20250904414830/en/Grant-Thornton-Advisors-investing-$1-billion-to-arm-the-multinational-workforce-across-its-platform-with-powerful-AI-tools-and-technologyGrant Thornton Advisors to Sink $1 Billion Over Three Years on AI https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2025/09/05/grant-thornton-advisors-to-sink-1-billion-over-three-years-on-ai/168500/Need CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and write a review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser. Call us and leave a voicemail; maybe we'll play it on the show. DIAL (202) 695-1040.SponsorshipsAre you interested in sponsoring The Accounting Podcast? For details, read the prospectus.Need Accounting Conference Info? Check out our new website - accountingconferences.comLimited edition shirts, stickers, and other necessitiesTeePublic Store: http://cloudacctpod.link/merchSubscribeApple Podcasts: http://cloudacctpod.link/ApplePodcastsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAccountingPodcastSpotify: http://cloudacctpod.link/SpotifyPodchaser: http://cloudacctpod.link/podchaserStitcher: http://cloudacctpod.link/StitcherOvercast: http://cloudacctpod.link/OvercastWant to get the word out about your newsletter, webinar, party, Facebook group, podcast, e-book, job posting, or that fancy Excel macro you just created? Let the listeners of The Accounting Podcast know by running a classified ad. Go here to create your classified ad: https://cloudacctpod.link/RunClassifiedAdTranscriptsThe full transcript for this episode is available by clicking on the Transcript tab at the top of this page
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  • Excel Gets AI, FP&A Pros Under Threat, QBO AI Feeds Blowback
    Are AI bank feeds helping—or just creating more work? Blake and David unpack Intuit’s missteps, why “use AI to make the rules” matters, and how a no‑code agent now posts multi‑line bills to Xero. They demo Excel’s new "copilot()" function, share how FP&A roles are shifting, and hit headlines from Barstool’s lawsuit to tariffs and Gusto’s Guideline deal. You’ll leave with practical ways to deploy AI, avoid hidden risks, and boost margins.SponsorsOnPay - http://accountingpodcast.promo/onpay TeamUp - http://accountingpodcast.promo/teamupDigits - http://accountingpodcast.promo/digitsChapters(00:43) - Planning with AI (02:03) - The Threat of AI to Consultants (04:41) - AI in QuickBooks: A Double-Edged Sword (06:19) - AI's Limitations and Future in Accounting (27:02) - Excel's New AI Copilot (28:22) - Introducing the Copilot Function in Excel (33:50) - AI in the Workplace: Challenges and Opportunities (37:44) - Barstool Sports vs. Omega Accounting Solutions (41:29) - New Tariff Policies and Their Impact (53:45) - Gusto Acquires Guideline for Retirement Services (54:26) - Conclusion and CPE Information  Show NotesBring AI to your formulas with the COPILOT function in Excel https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/microsoft365insiderblog/bring-ai-to-your-formulas-with-the-copilot-function-in-excel/4443487FP&A pros anticipate AI-driven headcount reductions https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/fp-a-pros-anticipate-ai-driven-headcount-reductionsPresident Trump Ends Unfair "De Minimis" Tariff Exemption, A Major Victory in Securing the Homeland https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/07/31/president-trump-ends-unfair-de-minimis-tariff-exemption-major-victory-securingFact Sheet: President Donald J. Trump is Protecting the United States' National Security and Economy by Suspending the De Minimis Exemption for Commercial Shipments Globally https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/07/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-is-protecting-the-united-states-national-security-and-economy-by-suspending-the-de-minimis-exemption-for-commercial-shipments-globally/Barstool Sports Sues Accounting Firm Over Unpaid Advertising Bills https://www.sportico.com/law/analysis/2025/barstool-omega-accounting-solutions-advertising-lawsuit-1234868719/Need CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and write a review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser. Call us and leave a voicemail; maybe we'll play it on the show. DIAL (202) 695-1040.SponsorshipsAre you interested in sponsoring The Accounting Podcast? For details, read the prospectus.Need Accounting Conference Info? Check out our new website - accountingconferences.comLimited edition shirts, stickers, and other necessitiesTeePublic Store: http://cloudacctpod.link/merchSubscribeApple Podcasts: http://cloudacctpod.link/ApplePodcastsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAccountingPodcastSpotify: http://cloudacctpod.link/SpotifyPodchaser: http://cloudacctpod.link/podchaserStitcher: http://cloudacctpod.link/StitcherOvercast: http://cloudacctpod.link/OvercastClassifiedsWant to get the word out about your newsletter, webinar, party, Facebook group, podcast, e-book, job posting, or that fancy Excel macro you just created? Let the listeners of The Accounting Podcast know by running a classified ad. Go here to create your classified ad: https://cloudacctpod.link/RunClassifiedAdTranscriptsThe full transcript for this episode is available by clicking on the Transcript tab at the top of this page
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  • AI Shakes Up Big Four Accounting Job Market
    Can AI agents actually reduce your workload—or just add hype? Blake demos how he rebuilt bill-entry “Hubdoc-style” in about an hour with Zapier Agents, then maps out why most AI pilots fail without documented workflows and human approvals. Plus: PwC’s plan to hire one-third fewer grads, juniors supervising AI, HMRC scanning social posts for tax gaps, and fresh salary and pricing benchmarks. Learn where AI truly fits—and how to price with confidence.SponsorsRelay - http://accountingpodcast.promo/relayTeamUp - http://accountingpodcast.promo/teamup Human at Scale - http://accountingpodcast.promo/humanDigits - http://accountingpodcast.promo/digitsChapters(05:36) - AI Agents: Hype vs. Reality (07:49) - AI's Impact on Corporate America (10:28) - Challenges in AI Integration (19:11) - PWC and AI: Training the Next Generation (21:43) - Building AI Agents with Zapier (41:00) - Human at Scale: Transforming Accounting Firms (42:34) - Live Stream Chat and AI Future (45:14) - Outsourcing vs. AI in Business (46:37) - AI in Accounting: Supervision and Customization (48:33) - Intuit's Q4 Earnings and QuickBooks Live (51:00) - AI's Impact on Accounting Jobs and Tools (59:48) - UK's AI Tax Fraud Detection (01:03:27) - Accounting Salary Survey Results (01:13:40) - Client Relationships and Free Speech Issues (01:18:18) - Conclusion and CPE Information  Show NotesThe GenAI Divide: State of AI in Business 2025 (MIT NANDA Report)https://fortune.com/2025/08/18/mit-report-95-percent-generative-ai-pilots-at-companies-failing-cfo/Getting a job at PwC out of college will be a lot tougher. It plans to recruit a third fewer grads by 2028 https://www.aol.com/getting-job-pwc-college-lot-120316405.htmlHMRC uses AI to spot tax fraud on social media https://www.accountancyage.com/2025/08/12/hmrc-uses-ai-to-spot-tax-fraud-on-social-media/The 2025 Accounting Today Salary Survey: Sweetening the deal https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/the-2025-accounting-today-salary-survey-sweetening-the-deal2025 U.S. Accounting and Tax Pricing Benchmark (Ignition) https://www.ignitionapp.com/us/2025-accounting-tax-pricing-benchmarkTaxDome Releases First-of-Its-Kind 2025 Niche Business Accounting Report https://www.morningstar.com/news/pr-newswire/20250819ph53815/taxdome-releases-first-of-its-kind-2025-niche-business-accounting-report2025 Niche Business Accounting Report (TaxDome) https://taxdome.com/niche-report-2025Need CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and write a review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser. Call us and leave a voicemail; maybe we'll play it on the show. DIAL (202) 695-1040.SponsorshipsAre you interested in sponsoring The Accounting Podcast? For details, read the prospectus.Need Accounting Conference Info? Check out our new website - accountingconferences.comLimited edition shirts, stickers, and other necessitiesTeePublic Store: http://cloudacctpod.link/merchSubscribeApple Podcasts: http://cloudacctpod.link/ApplePodcastsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAccountingPodcastSpotify: http://cloudacctpod.link/SpotifyPodchaser: http://cloudacctpod.link/podchaserStitcher: http://cloudacctpod.link/StitcherOvercast: http://cloudacctpod.link/OvercastClassifiedsWant to get the word out about your newsletter, webinar, party, Facebook group, podcast, e-book, job posting, or that fancy Excel macro you just created? Let the listeners of The Accounting Podcast know by running a classified ad. Go here to create your classified ad: https://cloudacctpod.link/RunClassifiedAdTranscriptsThe full transcript for this episode is available by clicking on the Transcript tab at the top of this page
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  • Can ChatGPT Agent Mode Reconcile My Checking Account?
    Can an AI reconcile your books while you sleep? Blake and David run a live experiment with ChatGPT-5’s Agent Mode in Xero—watching it match transactions, stumble on prepayments, and reveal what’s realistically automatable today. They also break down a flood of app news: Dext's bill pay, Ramp’s mega raise, Thomson Reuters and Deloitte’s agentic AI, plus Ignition–Financial Cents and Canopy portal moves. They dig into survey findings showing that 58% of employees are secretly using AI at work despite company bans, and take a look at how AI is disrupting the job market for college graduates. SponsorsTeamUp - http://accountingpodcast.promo/teamupRelay - http://accountingpodcast.promo/relayHuman at Scale - http://accountingpodcast.promo/humanMissive - http://accountingpodcast.promo/missiveChapters(01:32) - Exploring AI in Accounting (02:20) - Testing ChatGPT for Accounting Tasks (05:26) - Reconciling Transactions with AI (10:27) - App News (18:34) - AI and Automation in Accounting (23:29) - Recent Raises and Acquisitions (31:10) - Government and Regulatory Updates (35:14) - AI Agent Struggles with Prepayment (35:39) - VC Investments in Accounting Firms (37:43) - Ignition and Financial Sense Integration (40:13) - Canopy's Smart Intake and AI Innovations (42:58) - AI in the Workplace: Surveys and Insights (44:39) - AI Agent Finally Figures Out Prepayment (52:36) - AI's Limitations and Future Potential (01:01:55) - Fundraising and AI in Accounting Apps (01:12:28) - Impact of AI on the market (01:13:42) - Conclusion and CPE Information  Show NotesProduct Specialist-Accounting,AI - Xerohttps://builtinlondon.uk/job/product-specialist-accounting-ai/6683466Rillet raises $70M to replace 20th-century accounting software with AI-native ERP built by accountantshttps://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2025/08/06/3128328/0/en/Rillet-raises-70M-to-replace-20th-century-accounting-software-with-AI-native-ERP-built-by-accountants.htmlAI accounting startup Rillet raises $70 million in Andreessen Horowitz, ICONIQ-led roundhttps://www.investing.com/news/economy-news/ai-accounting-startup-rillet-raises-70-million-in-andreessen-horowitz-iconiqled-round-4172975Ramp Raises $500 Million at $22.5 Billion Valuation to Accelerate AI and Build the Future of Financehttps://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ramp-raises-500-million-at-22-5-billion-valuation-to-accelerate-ai-and-build-the-future-of-finance-302516953.htmlRamp hits $22.5B valuation just 45 days after reaching $16Bhttps://techcrunch.com/2025/07/30/ramp-hits-22-5b-valuation-just-45-days-after-reaching-16b/IRS, White House clashed over immigrants' data before Billy Long was oustedhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/08/09/trump-administration-irs-data-dispute/Trump replaces IRS Commissioner Billy Long with Scott Bessenthttps://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/08/08/billy-long-irs-commissioner-bessent/Trump ousts Billy Long as IRS commissioner, names Bessent acting headhttps://www.cnn.com/2025/08/08/politics/billy-long-ousted-irs-commissionerIRS Chief Forced Out After Immigrant Tax Data Pushback—Reporthttps://www.newsweek.com/irs-chief-forced-immigrant-tax-data-pushback-report-2111292Billy Long's IRS ouster follows clashes with Treasury, sparks concernhttps://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5449180-treasury-clashes-irs-commissioner/Need CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and write a review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser. Call us and leave a voicemail; maybe we'll play it on the show. DIAL (202) 695-1040.SponsorshipsAre you interested in sponsoring The Accounting Podcast? For details, read the prospectus.Need Accounting Conference Info? Check out our new website - accountingconferences.comLimited edition shirts, stickers, and other necessitiesTeePublic Store: http://cloudacctpod.link/merchSubscribeApple Podcasts: http://cloudacctpod.link/ApplePodcastsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAccountingPodcastSpotify: http://cloudacctpod.link/SpotifyPodchaser: http://cloudacctpod.link/podchaserStitcher: http://cloudacctpod.link/StitcherOvercast: http://cloudacctpod.link/OvercastWant to get the word out about your newsletter, webinar, party, Facebook group, podcast, e-book, job posting, or that fancy Excel macro you just created? Let the listeners of The Accounting Podcast know by running a classified ad. Go here to c...
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